Thread: Why don't you get Thai citizenship?

Originally Posted by Fondles

Go to immigration and ask.

They would probably laugh

Originally Posted by xanax

Originally Posted by Fondles

Go to immigration and ask.

They would probably laugh

Especially as he's talking shite

FWIW it's worth, if any male desperately wants to become Thai just get a sex change, marry a Thai bloke, apply after 3 years, and pay your B5 fee. Done and dusted.

all the info seems to be from 2003. i dont think they have changed anything, although the exorbitant fees may have become even more exorbitant.









Residence permit Thailand

Advantages of Permanent Residence in Thailand

There are a number of advantages to holding permanent resident status in Thailand:

It allows the holder to live permanently in Thailand, with no requirement to apply for an extension of temporary stay.

In addition to the permanent residence book, an alien registration book will be issued, which is the equivalent of the ID card held by Thais.

A permanent resident can have his/her name included on a house registration document.

Obtaining a work permit is easier for a permanent resident than for a non-resident, but you still need to have a work permit if working.

A permanent resident also has a number of other privileges such as, for example, being able to:

(a) buy a condominium without being required to transfer money from abroad;
(b) apply for naturalization in accordance with the law concerned;
(c) have Thai nationality granted to children who are born in Thailand;
(d) become a director of a public company; and
(e) apply for an extension of stay or permanent residence for non-Thai family members.

The annual quota for granting permanent residency in Thailand is a maximum of 100 persons per country. The Interior Minister is responsible for issuing the announcement each year that the quota is open for submission of applications, usually from October to the end of December.

The Immigration Commission has the power to define all regulations concerning permanent residency. The Immigration Bureau is the agency that handles all procedures concerning permanent residency applications.

Qualifications of an applicant:

1. An applicant must have received permission for yearly stays in Thailand on a non-immigrant visa for at least of three years prior to the submission of an application for permanent residency. Holders of multiple NON-Immigrant visas can not apply. You must have 3 un-broken yearly extensions in order to qualify.
2. An applicant must be holding a non-immigrant visa at the time of submitting an application.

Documents required

The list of required documents depends on the category under which the application is made.

Fees:

Application for a residence permit – 7,600
Approval of a residence permit (payable on receipt of residence book) – 191,400
Approval of a residence permit (payable on receipt of residence book) for a foreigner married to a Thai, the spouse of a resident, and any of their children who have not reached the status of a Thai juristic person (i.e., unmarried children aged below 20 years) – 95,700

The Thai Immigration Bureau has recently (october 2003) announced quotas for all expatriates applying for residence permits at 100 persons per nationality. All foreigners may qualify to apply for a residence permit if he/she

1. Holds a passport of his/her current nationality, which was granted a Non-Immigrant visa and the individual has been permitted to stay in Thailand for at least 3 consecutive years on a 1-year visa extension basis up to the application submission date.
2. Has personal qualifications that meet one or more of the following categories:
1) Investment category (minumum 3 – 10 Mil. Baht investment in Thailand)
2) Working/ Business category
3) Support a family or Humanity Reasons category: He/she must have relationship with a Thai citizen or an alien who already posses a residence permit as the followings:

A legal husband or wife
A legal father or mother
A child who is under 20 years of age up to the submission date of application and must be single
4) Expert / academics category
5) Other categories

Submission period for the Residence permit applications
The applicants can submit the applications once a year. Normally, the opening date for the applications is in December, we recommend to prepare the required documents 1-2 months earlier. Once the date is announced, the applications can be submitted until the last working day of the year.

The results will be announced in May 2004 and the residence permits will be issued in December 2004.

If approved, a residence blue book is issued to the alien. The foreign resident must register the place of residence in Thailand at the local Amphur Office and obtain a house card. 7 days after receipt of the residence certificate you then apply for an alien book (red book) at the local police station. You must re-register there every year, and the fee is 200 Baht.

The Residency Permit itself never expires, unless revoked. To be able to leave the country and return at will, though, you need to apply each year for a re-entry permit (endorsement) at 1,000 baht (multiple entry). If you don’t leave Thailand, you don’t need to have an endorement done.

Also, you must present yourself at the police station covering the area where you are resident once every five years for a stamp in your book.

An alien with permanent residency status will be eligible to apply for Thai citizenship after 10 consecutive years under this classification.

utter shite you do need to get residency first there is no fast track

Hmmm.... Some definately get it faster than others. Guy who sat next to me at work got it very quickly and after the coup as well.

Funny his next door neighbor was deputy PM in the TRT government, not sure what position he held after that, but he was able to assist with PR in just over a year despite the coup.

Originally Posted by Bobcock

Funny his next door neighbor was deputy PM in the TRT government, not sure what position he held after that, but he was able to assist with PR in just over a year despite the coup.

Sums up the problem with the country quite well!

Don't get me wrong, he didn't do it free of charge, I'm sure the bribe was 200,000.

Personally I've been eligible for the last 6 years. It's never even occurred to me......

And the benefits of being a Thai citizen are:
You can vote,have property in your name,no more visas.
Any more?

So there are good benefits in being a citizen of Thailand.
Never see any adverts from visa specialist offering the services of securing you this option.

Oh the irony..

As we speak there's 1000s of Thai "Single Mummies" in the UK scrounging benefits and free housing..

No benefits at all.

esa
dla
hb and so on, pattycake

So?

Certainly won't get that shit in Thailand

Some stats from Wikipedia..
Thai American - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

These are the stats for Thais getting permanent residency and citizenship in the US in recent years:

• New legal Permanent Residents

Year Amounts
2000 3,753
2001 4,245
2002 4,144
2003 3,126
2004 4,318
2005 5,505
2006 11,749
2007 8,751
2008 6,637
2009 10,444
2010 9,384
2011 9,962

• Thais who acquire US citizenship

Year Amounts
2000 5,197
2001 4,088
2002 4,013
2003 3,636
2004 3,779
2005 4,314
2006 4,583
2007 4,438
2008 6,930
2009 4,962
2010 4,112
2011 5,299



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Really? Thailand offers 100 to the US? It's comical. I wonder if these numbers count Thai anchor babies as well. Just a total joke. What bothers me most is the Thais in America wearing their yellow shirts cheering the PDRC to keep freedom of speech out of the hands of Thais in Thailand. It's all about money and capitalism for America so what's new.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Fondles

A foreigner can skip PR and go straight to Citizenship if they are married to a Thai national and have been both living and paying tax in Thailand for 3 or more consecutive years.

Got a link for that, please? One that applies to men, the three year rule is , afaik, only for foreign women married to Thai men.

I don't have a Link unfortunately but it is definitely the case that anyone married to a Thai National can apply directly for Thai Citizenship without first having to obtain PR. It used to apply only to foreign women married to a Thai male but was changed a few years ago because the unfair discrimination was realised. The 3 year rule still applies but there are also income requirements if the foreign applicant is male, so there is still an element of discrimination.

Patrick

Originally Posted by Fondles

Go to immigration and ask.

Permanent Residence and Thai Citizenship matters are nothing to do with Immigration - go to the Thai Police Special Branch at Police Headquarters on Rama IV Road in Bangkok or the Interior Ministry.

Patrick

Originally Posted by wasabi

And the benefits of being a Thai citizen are:
You can vote.

Actually once one obtains Thai Citizenship one cannot Vote for the first 5 years - no idea of the justification for that restriction.

Patrick

Originally Posted by xanax

utter shite you do need to get residency first there is no fast track

Totally incorrect - see above.

Patrick

can we hear from somebody who actually did this without residency first?

I'm not saying patrick is wrong, but the guy i mentioned before went through PR purely as a passage to citizenship as that is his ultimate game.

With the contacts he has I doubt he would have done it if he didn't have to.

Dunno myself though.

Originally Posted by ShrewedPunter

Oh the irony..

As we speak there's 1000s of Thai "Single Mummies" in the UK scrounging benefits and free housing..

No, there aren't. Where do you get that shit from?