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    Cost of living a decent life in 'the sticks'

    The old crew are going to hate this, as it's been done before and should probably never be raised again.

    But perhaps it will be handy for the benefits of noobs, not having to dig 5 years into the the past...

    There's a recent thread that delves into the cost of living in Phuket, and touches on living in the sticks.

    So, for those of you that live in the sticks, how much are you spending?

    Here's my breakdown, living in a small province about 40 kms from Chiang Mai...

    - Rent: 4,000 pm, decent small 2br house in a moo baan (we also have the house the outlaws live in that our kid owns in this thread:

    - Electricity: 1,200 pm (not shy on air con)

    - Internet: 1,900 pm (Cable Internet top package)

    - Car payments: 8,000 pm

    - Fuel (about a tank per month run around): 2,000 pm

    - Food and beer allowance (me, Mrs, kid) 600 per day: 18,000 pm

    - Medical insurance (entire family except myself): 1,200 pm

    - Misc. (clothes, repairs, etc): 5,000 pm

    Total for basic living expenses = 41,300 THB

    So around the 40K THB mark per month to live a decent life style.

    On top of that, we go into chiang mai and stay in a hotel on a weekly basis, and a few nights a week we'll go out for dinner, I'll go play snooker or piss it up at a bamboo bar, so lets add in those costs:

    - Weekly visit to Chiang Mai or elsewhere (hotel 700bt, Mrs shopping spree 2,000 bt, Meaalsonwheels feed 600bt, my piss-up in town 1500 bt = 4,800 per visit):
    19,200 pm

    - weekly dinner with Mrs / friends (about 800 bt a pop): 3,200 pm

    - weekly snooker (lose about 500 bt to the sharks and spend about 300 bt in piss):
    3,200 pm

    - weekly local bar piss-up (about 1,000 bt a pop): 4,000 pm

    So after the approx 40K bt for living a decent life, the extras = 29,600 bt pm.

    So lets call it about 70K baht per month, to support a family and live a good life style, travel regularly and get on the piss pretty often.

    I don't keep a real tight track and have overshot in this thread, but that's pretty much about what we spend.

    That's living pretty good for what will barely leave you with a pot to piss in back home in Australia.

    And of course you could tighten right up, as I've had to at times in the past. We could probably still get by pretty comfortably on 30K bt pm. Any less than that and you're defo sliding into poverty strickendry.


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    25'000 per month we own home car motorbike only utilities to pay, we also grow some veg herbs, and have own chickens, soon we will be getting own pigs for fattening and ducks, have fish on farm so reckon will come in at around 20k
    Don't have the luxury of bars around us.

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    That's $600 a week AUD for top end living all in.

    Back home I rent my gaff out for $400 so compared to what you get in an Australia for $600 per week you're doing quite OK considering you are paying for a car, health insurance and Family.

    Your Internet is expensive though, I pay 680 baht here in Bangkok for high speed.

    Might come up one day and get on the piss by the way.

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    1000 Baht every six weeks for 50 Kilo bag of rice
    Rent free at GFs house
    100 baht a day for food from market
    Free internet from friends Wifi
    50 Baht a day ion white whisky

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    Your Internet is expensive though, I pay 680 baht here in Bangkok for high speed.
    Yeah, I need top quality internet, it's defo worth it for me to pay the extra 1,000 or so for optic fibre and snap torrent downloads. I also do other stuff on the net (no, not pawn) that needs a solid connection. This internet is better than anything available in Australia. I live near a bunch of Jap and Korean owned factories so lucky to have the cable line run by.

    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    Might come up one day and get on the piss by the way.
    Sure mate. The local bamboo bars are a cracker, and there's a big population of itinerant factory workers that work hard and play hard. Pretty vibrant for the sticks actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack
    Don't have the luxury of bars around us.
    Ha, that could be a good or bad thing depending on how you look at it. It's pretty amazing how such a small place supports so friggin many little bars. They're everywhere around here.

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    9999 thanks for the thread,interesting to Me non the less even though I am not intending to move to Thailand permanently. My friend from the U.k living in Suratani (south) has a UK State pension to live on and is struggling,he does not drink or smoke or party. One factor that is not taken into account is "pride" nothing wrong with that,Thais call it loosing face. Plus reading some of the posters on here who are a small band of nasty works,they would not respect an honest poster saying that the UK state pension is subsistence living. So who can blame them for not exposing themselves to the small band of nasty works.

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    Wasabi

    so true about the nasties on here, your friend if struggles here, would be in big shit back in UK, i was watching a doc the other night, showing how many nowadays either have the choice to eat or heat there home in the winter months, its a very pitiful place the UK these days.

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    For a single UK pensioner, Thailand would defo provide a better life style than in dreary old UK that's for sure.

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    To be honest i'm happy there's none around here, keeps me away from the farangs

    Quote Originally Posted by 9999 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack
    Don't have the luxury of bars around us.
    Ha, that could be a good or bad thing depending on how you look at it. It's pretty amazing how such a small place supports so friggin many little bars. They're everywhere around here.

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    People say that living in the city is much more expensive than up country so lets compare.

    Rent = 10000

    Electric = 1400 A/C going 12 hours a day.

    Internet = 750

    Building maintenance = 1600.

    Don't drink every day , eat local, No car repayments, no fuel, health insurance sorted back home.

    BTS = 3000 ?????

    Stay in a hotel sometimes = 1500

    Lady friend stays two weeks out of four. We eat local mostly so piss cheap, movies and banging around the place = not much.

    A few big nights out with the boys = 1000 baht a night. once a week.

    lets say 30000 per month for me around that.

    On top of that I must do visa runs, in January I'll go to India for 5 weeks as I make trips out of my visa runs at the moment.

    What ever way I look at it I'm miles ahead than living in Australia paying stupid prices and receiving piss all in return.

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    land and house done years ago
    today total out is

    12 satang worth of papaya for the missus and kids ( food for the day)
    20 satang or sticky rice for the missus and kids ( food for the day)
    100 baht for my alcohol
    20baht for the evening massage at the neighbor ( 4 hand) mother and daughter)
    = about 120.32 baht,

    its cheap, in issarn yall should move here
    Sorry about me horrible speling

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    My wife pulled me up a couple of years ago about are spending she noted most was spent on my luxuries, beer farang foods etc, a compromise was made i eat thai now, but still have my beer.

    Quote Originally Posted by poorfalang View Post
    land and house done years ago
    today total out is

    12 satang worth of papaya for the missus and kids ( food for the day)
    20 satang or sticky rice for the missus and kids ( food for the day)
    100 baht for my alcohol
    20baht for the evening massage at the neighbor ( 4 hand) mother and daughter)
    = about 120.32 baht,

    its cheap, in issarn yall should move here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack
    To be honest i'm happy there's none around here, keeps me away from the farangs
    It's rare I run into falangs around here, but there's a few kicking about.

    The down side is that I have to speak Thai, and if pissing on with Thai blokes they always slip into the local dialect, so I'm probably picking up bad language habits but who gives a fok eh, it's not like I intend to ever be a translator or diplomat.


    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    lets say 30000 per month for me around that.
    That's pretty nutted down mate especially for the city with 10K rent. I think a few things are missing there though, daily food, misc, like clothes, shoes etc, or do you get around like an abo in bare feed, an old pair of footy shirts and a VB singlet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack
    My wife pulled me up a couple of years ago about are spending she noted most was spent on my luxuries, beer farang foods etc
    Mine did that too, and I reminded her that I put her in business and all our income is from me, and we still spend a lot less than we (I) earn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9999 View Post

    Yeah, I need top quality internet, it's defo worth it for me to pay the extra .

    This internet is better than anything available in Australia.


    Regards the Internet. I must have a good Internet connection so I see why you pay the premium but its still top value compared to Australia which is shit compared to here.

    In Perth I payed 900 per month for 2 gig only, also slower than here.

    Here I pay 750 for super fast unlimited WI-FI. ???????

    Don't ask about Electricity prices and other utilities in Perth as the other readers could possibly die laughing.

    When I actually break it down it was costing me more to stay working in Perth than to actually retire and live here.

    Something seriously wrong with our system.

    God help the pensioners and people struggling along on low incomes.

    I did tell you the fools are charging $47 for a powered sight in the local caravan Park.

    For the uninformed that's providing your own van , not using there's.

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    If i said what you said she'd tell me your my husband its your job to take care of family

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack
    My wife pulled me up a couple of years ago about are spending she noted most was spent on my luxuries, beer farang foods etc
    Mine did that too, and I reminded her that I put her in business and all our income is from me, and we still spend a lot less than we (I) earn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    When I actually break it down it was costing me more to stay working in Perth than to actually retire and live here.

    Something seriously wrong with our system.
    Yeah, I like the life style here. Pity the education system is so fokd over here so I'll have to return to Aus in the next 5 years and get arse raped again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi
    My friend from the U.k living in Suratani (south) has a UK State pension to live on and is struggling,he does not drink or smoke or party
    Your mates state pension is fixed at the rate it was awarded, currently about 100 quid a week. If he is living on roughly Bt20k a month no wonder he is struggling. I live in Surat, in the sticks and spend a similar amount to 9999.
    Quote Originally Posted by 9999
    For a single UK pensioner, Thailand would defo provide a better life style than in dreary old UK that's for sure.
    I think he would be on the streets if he lived in UK. At least his pension would be index linked back home, but because he has an income, he wouldn't be entitled to any benefits.
    Heart of Gold and a Knob of butter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9999 View Post


    That's pretty nutted down mate especially for the city with 10K rent. I think a few things are missing there though, daily food, misc, like clothes, shoes etc, or do you get around like an abo in bare feed, an old pair of footy shirts and a VB singlet?

    Na, hate VB its a shit beer innit. Goats piss really.

    Got a heap of clothes and shoes so no spending there.

    Never eat in Farang restaurants, always go local as I love the Thai food, sometimes bang down a Subway which they do an all day special for 49 Baht.

    Downstairs is a massive local market so I'm in there with the locals, hardly ever see a farang where I live thank fuk.

    If I'm out in a mall its always off to the local food hall.

    Suppose if I spend 200 a day on food I'm going hard. Eat really healthy lots of salads and stuff, our market sells everything. Usually only locals so all local prices.

    Sometimes I'll get a taste for a Guinness so will go up the road to the Irish pub and pay 290 baht a pint.

    3 of those and I'm done so there's a K.

    Na, cost me piss all mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9999 View Post

    Yeah, I like the life style here.

    Pity the education system is so fokd over here so I'll have to return to Aus in the next 5 years and get arse raped again.

    Everyone I know here who has kids is in the same boat, most will bail back to the West to educate there children but it must be frigging hard to go back if they actually enjoy living here.

    Not to mention the fact of reestablish ones self again in a society where it cost a fortune just to leave ones house. Especially hard for the wife who losses the family contact.

    By the way, our public schools are good in certain areas but top private schools in Perth have just topped out at 26 K per year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    Na, hate VB its a shit beer innit. Goats piss really.
    Dunno what happened there. I leave for 5 years, VB was all the go. Now I come back and branded a bogan. In Aus now staying with the old man, bought home a case of VB and he nearly brained me!

    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    Never eat in Farang restaurants, always go local as I love the Thai food
    I can't do it, much as I love good Thai tucker, and there's no falang food around here apart from pizza co and KFC. A big part of the reason we go to Chiang Mai every week, have some decent Italian tucker or something.

    I probably rave over falang food in town that is crap, places the 'The Dukes' ... the longer you been here the better shitty falang food tastes I reckon. One thing about being in Australia, yeah they sting you for $30 a meal, but they don't skimp and it's usually pretty dam good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack View Post
    25'000 per month we own home car motorbike only utilities to pay, we also grow some veg herbs, and have own chickens, soon we will be getting own pigs for fattening and ducks, have fish on farm so reckon will come in at around 20k
    Don't have the luxury of bars around us.
    About the same. Once you have big things out of the way like a house and car 25,000 for two should cover most things except unpredictable medical emergencies.

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    Here's my breakdown, living in a 'western' village about 2kms outside the ring-road in Udon Thani...

    - Rent: 6,500 pm, detached 3br bungalow

    - Electricity: 3,000 pm variable (city rates, not village)

    - City water: 350 pm

    - Cable TV: 350 pm

    - Internet: 1,000 pm (13M 3BB)

    - Phones: 600 pm

    - Car payments: 11,500 pm

    - Bike payments: 10,000 pm

    - Vehicle insurance: c2,500 pm

    - Fuel : 1,200 pm

    - Groceries: 20,000 pm

    - Weekly evening out with family: 5,000 pm

    - School bus: 1,500 pm

    - School fees: 4,300 pm

    - Kumon extra maths tuition: 1,391 pm

    - Medical insurance for me: 1,200 pm

    - village death fund: 300-1,000 pm

    - Misc. (clothes, repairs, etc): 5,000 pm

    Total for basic living expenses = 76,291 THB

    On top of this are trips away, building a house in the village and 35,000 a month in savings plans. I could make significant savings if I sold the kids into slavery and ate like a 3rd world peasant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack View Post
    Wasabi

    so true about the nasties on here, your friend if struggles here, would be in big shit back in UK, i was watching a doc the other night, showing how many nowadays either have the choice to eat or heat there home in the winter months, its a very pitiful place the UK these days.

    In the UK he would not have to pay rent every month.

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