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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
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    The cool thing about the Lasers (Sunfish) is that they are easy to right after they flip. We used to flip ours intentionally when we wanted to go swimming. Easy to launch through moderate waves and to surf back to the beach, just remember to pull the keel.
    Yes, but in heavy winds that can get abit annoying.

    Anyway, QC, I just checked.

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    $3,200 brand new. (not including shipping and/or customs fees)

    I was thinking of the Sunfish LaserPerformance | North America - Home Those can go over unintentionally, too. For the money I think I'd go with the Hobie Bravo, also flippable, from the looks of it maybe more stable and also can be righted (if you're heavy enough, I guess) Bravo : Rotomolded Sailboats : Hobie Cat
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    More for less (and blue)... Laser Sailboat for Sale Laser Sailboat for sale - Truck2Hand.com.

    Sorry, can't link the pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gipsy
    I suggest you read up a bit on these fora, maybe sign up and ask a few questions before you start.
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    Good advice, but this is QC we're talking too!


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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    Good advice, but this is QC we're talking too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gipsy
    I suggest you read up a bit on these fora, maybe sign up and ask a few questions before you start.
    That sounds far too sensible. Damn the torpedoes and full steam ahead!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipsy
    ugly unstable Comos CB 9 dinghy, go ahead and let us have a good laugh
    It may be ugly and unstable when purchased, but by the time I have finished with it it will be fucking hideous and unstable, so there. A vessel so unsightly and so obviously unseaworthy that mariners across the 7 seas will run screaming at the mere mention of the SS Cornholer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipsy
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    Given the working name of this exceptional craft I should probably be designated Rear Admiral and I'm not even interested in sodomy and the lash. But I'll take the rum part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
    Good point, but don't forget I will have Offer Rocker strapped underneath for ballast.
    My girth will assist . . .
    I shall mount you aft of the torpedo tube.


    Yeah, erm, that didn't come out quite how I intended. All this nautical stuff does get a little saucy!

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    Any updates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    Any updates?
    The good news is that SuperCheap has them in stock again, ~4,000 Baht for the 2 bench model but the bad news is I have a medical issue that I put off dealing with but was confirmed last week so that needs to take priority over fun stuff.

    My little pipe-dream of the SS Offis Rocker is on the back burner, probably until the new year as I don't think I will be going into the ocean any time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
    I have a medical issue

    Quote Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
    My little pipe-dream
    A quick course of antibiotics and you'll be up and sailing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by charleyboy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
    I have a medical issue

    Quote Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
    My little pipe-dream
    A quick course of antibiotics and you'll be up and sailing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker


    I am starting to think that when the SS Offis Rocker sets sail I may scuttle it in a cleansing ritual to symbolically rid my psyche of your malevolent presence. The fellow members of my drum circle think this is a good idea.

    After that I shall raise it and rename it something nice like the SS Phoenix, a magnificent aquatic version of the legendary bird, reborn and risen from the depths of your depravity to soar majestically across the waves with Rear Admiral Corholla proudly commanding the helm from his stool high above the poop deck!







    /It's a pity Malicious can't post in this thread - he'd have a field day with that one..

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    Quote Originally Posted by charleyboy View Post
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    I have a medical issue

    Quote Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
    My little pipe-dream
    A quick course of antibiotics and you'll be up and sailing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
    I had the pleasure of enjoying a nice seafood luncheon with you and Charlie a couple of years back.
    Bloody hell, was it really that long ago. Time for a repeat performance I think. Maybe on the east coast this time, so you can show off your culinary expertise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui
    Bloody hell, was it really that long ago.
    Yup, according to my photos it was Jul 17th, 2011.

    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui
    Maybe on the east coast this time, so you can show off your culinary expertise?
    Heh, nice idea but trust me, we'd be better off finding a restaurant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
    we'd be better off finding a restaurant!
    That's exactly what I meant, local knowledge like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangyai View Post
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    What's the cheapest/easiest option for a novice to get sailing?
    Tie a sheet to a broom and then stick assembled sail up rear oriface. Invest in a snorkle if your budget can stretch that far. Very plain sailing.

    QC - I hope that the medical issue was nothing to do with testing Bangyai's suggestion.

    My apologies because I see that the conversation has moved on somewhat whilst I was avoiding work and doodling away, but if you do ever decide to try to make one of these things sail then my suggestion would be something like this (apologies for the crap artwork):



    Comos seem to do some form of plastic bin things that are about 60 cm x 90 cm. I'd get two of them or something similar, fill them with that expanding foam stuff, then strap the bins on tight. This would sort out the buoyancy and the stability as well as allowing you to have a slightly taller mast which would probably help get the thing upwind a bit better.

    The more polished approach might be to cut the bins so they fit well against the hull/streamline them a bit then fill 'em with foam and glass them in, but it could be a bit of a faff.

    I'd then cut a vertical slot in each bin to take a leeboard (same theory here as a Thames barge). Might need a bit of precision as I think that they are meant to 'toe in' a few degrees to give you some upwind lift (put it this way, if they are angled out then you'll end up going sideways so may as well not have them).

    Next step I'd do is knock up a sort of T shaped wooden plank affair with the top of the "T" running between the gunwhales and the vertical bit of the "T" running to the bow (like a sort of king plank). Make a mast sized hole in the intersection of the two "T" bits and then glass/bolt something fairly solidly onto the hull immediately below to act as a mast foot.

    Bung on some loop things to tie the shrouds and forestay onto (the wires to hold up the mast). Add a mast, boom sail and a rudder and then...

    ...well, good luck.


    Thanks for helping me to while away an hour or so - please do carry on with your conversation everyone. QC - hope the medical issue resolves itself.

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    ^ It's blue! You're a good man!

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    ^ ha, yes, the colour did seem to be the primary concern for his design.

    "Seaworthiness - wot's that? Well, only include it if it comes free with the blue ones" sort of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
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    some very snazzy looking things I was just wondering if there is something like one of those little Optimist boats available here, the one that kids learn to sail in elsewhere.

    Something like this but that could hold 2 adults:

    That kid is probably about 60 kg, and the boat is almost capsizing. You will not get one adult, let alone two in there.

    However, if you can find a 'blue' boat and prove me wrong, happy sailing. Start by ringing/emailing the varuna club in jomtien, they might have contacts down south.
    For an Ozzie you don't know much about sailing. The boat is not "almost capsizing".
    The kids is putting his body weight in the best position for down wind.
    Heeling the boat over, "on purpose", to reduce drag.


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    I was sort of exegerat, eggera, exagerating,

    ah, you' re right, dumb comment.

    Nicely done your mate Varuna weekends are one of the things I miss most about Thailand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roobarb
    QC - I hope that the medical issue was nothing to do with testing Bangyai's suggestion.
    Well, I'd be lying if I didn't say that it crossed my mind to use Ocker as a test subject for Bangyai's boat design but Ocker chickened out because he said that the snorkel would clash with his blue rinse or something. I dunno, I don't pay much attention to his rantings.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roobarb
    My apologies because I see that the conversation has moved on somewhat whilst I was avoiding work and doodling away, but if you do ever decide to try to make one of these things sail then my suggestion would be something like this (apologies for the crap artwork):
    Please don't apologise, lots of very helpful suggestions in your post, and your design is remarkably close to what I had in mind. The T-shaped wooden thing is a very good idea because the little cover over the bow seems way too flimsy to hold a mast, even with stays.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roobarb
    Comos seem to do some form of plastic bin things that are about 60 cm x 90 cm. I'd get two of them or something similar, fill them with that expanding foam stuff, then strap the bins on tight.
    I've got about 30 empty 25 litre containers sitting under the house that I don't know what to do with so I was thinking to utilise a few of them, I feel they will lend a certain elegance to the vessel!

    Quote Originally Posted by Roobarb
    QC - hope the medical issue resolves itself.
    Thank you very kindly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roobarb
    ha, yes, the colour did seem to be the primary concern for his design.
    Now I have learnt that they come in a fetching orange too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterpan
    For an Ozzie you don't know much about sailing
    My i introduce myself - I know sweet FA about ailing and I grew up right on the water, harbour-side.
    KW is quite an accomplished semen, so he brags

    Quote Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
    I've got about 30 empty 25 litre containers sitting under the house
    You've finished your latest batch of home-made plonk then?

    Quote Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
    I feel they will lend a certain elegance to the vessel!
    Yea, you're all Klarse . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
    Now I have learnt that they come in a fetching orange too!
    Felching orange? You, sir, are disgusting!

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    main prob with plastic dinghy is the practical impossibility of repair by a DIYer.

    If you want to sail one you will need a centre board version ...don't know how you would retrofit in a flat bottom?

    better take some practical lessons in sailing in any event...learn the basics like righting the boat from knock down.....dinghy sailing is fun but often very wet..After some lessons you will have sufficient knowledge to choose your poison methinks

    A Laser ,Sunfish etc would be rooftop/truck bed or trailerable..not cheap though

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    good thread but no result yet?


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    Quote Originally Posted by crepitas
    If you want to sail one you will need a centre board version ...don't know how you would retrofit in a flat bottom?
    Good points in your post, thank you for that.

    I have a friend who is experienced with working with fibreglass and resins etc, he reckons that cutting a slot in the boat and then building up a mount for a stabbing board should be do-able, so that would be how we'd go about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by crepitas
    A Laser ,Sunfish etc would be rooftop/truck bed or trailerable..not cheap though
    That's the thing, for the amount of time I would spend in it I can't currently justify shelling out the money for something like one of those (although I'd like to). Also this could be a fun learning experience of how NOT to go to sea so there's that!

    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    good thread but no result yet?
    Thanks, but yeah, sadly no result yet. As I said a few posts ago I have other things that will have to take priority for now.

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