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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post

    That may because a lot of fluid was drained from the ankle joint cavity before the plasma was injected but who knows.


    Just draining the fluid and releasing the pressure would of given him immediate relief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post

    That may because a lot of fluid was drained from the ankle joint cavity before the plasma was injected but who knows.


    Just draining the fluid and releasing the pressure would of given him immediate relief.
    It usually does me. Boomtish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    Just draining the fluid and releasing the pressure would of given him immediate relief.
    It does for me, in many ways

    *Edit* ^ Bastard. Beat me to it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alitongkat View Post
    people highly believe in (what we know as) "medicine"...

    in doctors in white clothes, that have studied long...
    in medications that are "tested"...

    that a doctor could give you something what really does HARM you, nobody can imagine...
    i have been reading up now - as much as i am capable of (still) - for a couple of years...
    and im nothing than shocked... really shocked...

    how people who have studied medicine can be SO stupid... so IGNORANT... but mostly - really dim, really !
    Have you seen anyone about your Gibberish?
    it seems to come and go.

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    last two comments remind of something, also quite apparent...

    a lot of men develop ED, already in their 40s...

    ...while men have - probably for a long time already - "issues", they only wake up, when they have ED (coz thats really not acceptable anymore) and then see the doctor (and demand finally some help)...

    thats why there are so many ED cases, but basically, the source is something else, and it has been there for many many years...
    and then they get beta blockers ( i think sildenafil or whatever e.g. viagra)...
    what of course does NOT treat the cause...
    and then they get heart problems next...

    jmho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo
    Have you seen anyone about your Gibberish?
    Heh, heh...it'll take more than a needle and some draining...

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    Just draining the fluid and releasing the pressure would of given him immediate relief.
    I'm so glad you have joined this thread and as a patient of this medical procedure.

    Also what you have posted is 100% correct.

    The success of the treatment is largely dependent on the doctors experience and knowing where to inject the plasma.

    My mate uses ultrasound during most procedures in Australia but maintains to find the exact spot to inject is to conduct a physical press test finding the sorest spot and then marking it out with a felt pen.

    One thing that I didn't add is the plasma, and after extraction must be placed in a special unit that has a more special light. When exposed to this light the plasma becomes active (secret) and then is injected immediately.

    Your three course claim is correct and the doctors suggest a yearly treatment thereafter.

    I must also add the treatment is not a miracle cure. Yes, there is natural repair of the damaged area but the joint never returns to perfect youthful health.

    What this treatment provides is pain relief and the fact the injury does not deteriorate further when having yearly injections.

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    L/T, I've got a kitchen table. How much does a centrifuge cost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    One thing that I didn't add is the plasma, and after extraction must be placed in a special unit that has a more special light.


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    Fridge with the door open - check!

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    ^

    I've had a good laugh during this thread.

    You would have thought that the procedure required an open heart surgery medical environment and by the response of some posters.

    Hardly a life threatening procedure even for those with the most vivid imaginations.

    Thanks Terry for adding your experience and I hope the therapy works for you and your ligament repair is fast and complete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post

    One thing that I didn't add is the plasma, and after extraction must be placed in a special unit that has a more special light. When exposed to this light the plasma becomes active (secret) and then is injected immediately.
    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post

    Mind you, I think the medic missed out the bit about the magical zeta rays from planet zorg......


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    Table top surgery went out many years ago. The guy probably has no credentials here, no work permit and was acting outside of his ethical code.

    Does the OP know where in his own country he is registered? Just in case a public spirited person here wants to report him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    When exposed to this light the plasma becomes active (secret) and then is injected immediately.
    Oh, RIGHT ! The SECRET light !
    But to be credible, he needs the machine that goes "beep".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    When exposed to this light the plasma becomes active (secret) and then is injected immediately.
    Oh, RIGHT ! The SECRET light !
    But to be credible, he needs the machine that goes "beep".
    Great I've got that DVD, that's my Saturday night sorted.

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    This home surgery seems to be catching on saves the wait at A&E.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg
    he is a f*cking nutcase.
    A bit over the top mate.

    The whole procedure was far less dangerous then having a tooth pulled.

    I am sure if there was any risk of infection or danger this very qualified doctor would not have attempted the procedure where he did.

    I feel that's where the hospitals have you here.............Expensive surgeries, heaps of attending hangers-on, a pile of tablets afterwards and just to pile the bill up.

    His suggestion was not to drink or smoke for a couple of days and if painful take an aspirin.
    I was with you until you said this, it's complete bollocks, when the skin is broken there is ALWAYS a risk of infection and this procedure goes deep into the joint so it's a bad risk if it does get infected..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaBorn
    I was with you until you said this, it's complete bollocks, when the skin is broken there is ALWAYS a risk of infection and this procedure goes deep into the joint so it's a bad risk if it does get infected..
    Yep. A deep tissue infection can be very hard to clear up



    This is a scam. With just enough basis on some documented research to make it believable for anyone who checks out the basics on the Internet later.

    All the basics of a common scam are there:

    1. Met with some friends who knew someone else.
    2. Went to one of their apartments and introduced to some guy who claimed he was Dr X. (Who may actually exist, but who is to know that was actually him)
    3. Some unknown 'patient' arrives. (Again probably one of the scammers)
    4. The procedure is described in just enough detail to make it believable/researchable (with the added info about a 'secret ingredient')
    5. A plausable demo is shown, after which the 'patient' claims some relief (all an act probably)

    Thats the setup for the scam.

    A week or so later you'll get to meet the patient again (who is probably now training for a marathon or something ) and be offered the opportunity to 'invest' as someone has 'dropped out'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    ^

    I've had a good laugh during this thread.

    You would have thought that the procedure required an open heart surgery medical environment and by the response of some posters.

    Hardly a life threatening procedure even for those with the most vivid imaginations.

    Thanks Terry for adding your experience and I hope the therapy works for you and your ligament repair is fast and complete.
    Again silly post, ANY invasive procedure (and this does fall under that description as has been posted by obviously knowledgeable people) carries a risk & danger that can be potentially life threatening, ever hear of Staph?

    Staphylococcus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    JFYI needles and injections are a primary cause of these infections I know it may not be related but hepatitis, HIV and a host of other serious and life threatening illnesses come from a simple needle prick so it IS dangerous and should not be dismissed or trivialized so easily.. For the patient I hope he has good results but the procedure was high risk under the circumstances..

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/print/stap...t&dsection=all

    But staph infections can turn deadly if the bacteria invade deeper into your body, entering your bloodstream, joints, bones, lungs or heart.
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    again silly post, yeah indeed...

    AS IF PROCEDURES IN THE HOSPITAL WERE WITHOUT RISK & DANGER THAT CAN BE POTENTIALLY LIFE THREATENING...

    geez... no words, really...
    the "medical believers"...

    as long as the guy had a degree and is still practising, he can estimate the risk...

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    as we wouldnt be almost all carrier of staphylococcus already...


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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    Just draining the fluid and releasing the pressure would of given him immediate relief.
    It all depends. It may be relieving to have the pressure released but that isn't necessary a good thing. The last thing you do is burst a blister even if it gives relief. If you have swollen legs you don't go sticking needles into them because it makes them feel better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post

    That may because a lot of fluid was drained from the ankle joint cavity before the plasma was injected but who knows.


    Just draining the fluid and releasing the pressure would of given him immediate relief.
    Exactly, plus he mentions using a local anesthetic if I recall? Still effective upon leaving??.. Likely...

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    Just a heads up about being in Sterile area when the needle is injected.

    My doctors surgery backs onto a Pathologists area, once the Doctor drew the blood and activated it with the plasma I was ushered Immediately next door into a room for the Injection.

    This was a normal room decked out with the Ultra sound equipment so the Doctor could accurately see where my Tendon was damaged and where he needed to place the needle .

    It could in no way be considered a sterile area but of course the needles where, the Doctor and his assistant where wearing gloves and my ankle was swabbed before the injection.

    So the debate concerning this procedure being dodgy because it was not carried out in a sterile area is not correct as I was in a normal room and not an operating Theater.

    The procedure could be compared to having a blood test except there injecting blood and not withdrawing it.

    I was watching the needle being pushed into my ankle until the Doctor found the exact spot and began the injection.

    As far as marking the spot with a marker pen and then having a crack at locating the affected spot goes I cant see how LT's Doctor can be certain about getting it right.

    That's why the Injection is done under Ultra Sound so the injection can be done accurately.

    Fooking hurt though.

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    ^ what about the 'magic light'? Did you see the light?

    Seriously, I'm not doubting the procedure itself is something that has some basis in scientific fact. But LT's experience does sound like a scam setup, 'built ontop of that basis'.

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