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    Why Nigella Lawson & others only have themselves to blame

    Seen those fabulous pictures in the press of that TV 'cook' Nigella Lawson being strangled and physically abused by her 70yo husband Charles Saatchi. as well as being in broad daylight in central London, it spoilt our rosy illusion of the gentle, likeable TV chef.
    Willingly being in an abusive relationship with a man whose track record is questionable and is not far from kicking the bucket himself makes me think 'gold digger' but this isn't Thailand and Nigella's father is pretty wealthy anyway.

    A lot of women stick up for their mans violent, often drunken outbursts, putting up with the shit in the name of a relationship, where they are too scared to get out. Why is that? How have these cowardly hard men got them where they want them? Locked their passports in a safe? Balanced one set of house keys between the two of them so he can keep an eye on her?

    What is to stop that woman from fleeing the home (with or without kids) when the brute is out? The chances are it's his home anyway so there's no loss there. Many woman say how much their life is hell due to abusive men but choose to stay with them, supporting them and even protecting them in court cases. Is it fickle? Stupid? Yeah I'd say so, and I'll also say myself that these women deserve it in some cases. If it's so bad, then fuck off outta there. I hate mosquitoes, but I don't sit in their nest continually complaining about it, do I?

    Towards the end, my ex wife would goad me continually into hitting her. (Her Thai friend, an expert, had told her this was a way to get the flat as she'd be the victim in the divorce hearing, personally I dunno how that works) I loved it because I'd sussed her out by then.

    On one occasion I shouted loudly at her to piss off and she was quickly on the phone to the cops. I'd shouted!! thus qualifying her as a victim of verbal abuse!! ''Fighting with my husband'' She told them tearfully. Gleefully thinking the cops would be straight round with the cuffs on me, she starting looking up removal companies in the Yellow Pages for moving my things out. They called back and told her to sort it herself. Back to square one, bitch.

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    how many partners arseholes are you responsible for savaging Pat ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Pat
    being in an abusive relationship with a man whose track record is questionable and is not far from kicking the bucket himself makes me think 'gold digger' but this isn't Thailand and Nigella's father is pretty wealthy anyway.
    So, apart from a late-night mysoginistic rant... what's your point?

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    I shall word my next post intelligently. Off to buy some cigs.

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    It's 6.40pm in England. Not a rant.

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    Jeez, that was quick. A 3 minute jog to the nearest arab shop.

    I was in one of those abusive relationships about 20 years ago. It lasted 3 years or thereabouts. It's difficult to get out of it because you love the man, and think that "he will change". But of course he never will, it is an indepth horrific thing he has in his head. These men are cowards, they would never fight on the street or join the army, no they beat their wives and kids.

    I won't go into what i went through but can just say that the mental abuse is almost worse than the physical.

    I stayed why? In my pea brain marriage was for life...

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    An english guy I met in Koh Chang would playfully punch his (english) Gfs arm when she disagreed with him, not full bloodied, just a little pressure. Saddened me as I recognised him as a bully boy. Wonder what goes on at home when they have a serious disagreement. doesn't bear thinking about, poor girl.

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    A good shouting match clears the lungs. But, i must admit i know exactly where to point my knee for a balls hurt.

    Hey, you learn to protect yourself!!!

    Oh, and those men are all sweetness and light when out socially. But get home and all shit flies.

    Nowadays, i am a big softie and hate even seeing sad stuff on the telly. Because i am not in that environment anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patsycat
    Jeez, that was quick. A 3 minute jog to the nearest arab shop.
    I boycott any paki/wog /chink shop , unless I'm actually in thier countries, then I boycott western owned shops .



    Back on topic

    Some women are just addicted to the drama, they love a good fight, shouting and escalating layers of abuse. A shinny black eye or too ? never mind -painful but worth it , because next morning his will be back with a bunch of flowers and a reasonable explanation about the flying headbutt .
    And the making up makes it all worthwhile .
    Soon they are best mates again until.....
    etc etc

    If a woman tell you her last boyfriend used to beat her single every weekend , but they were together 7 years ,
    then steer clear , In no time she will think you a wimp for being nice and thus far too dull .

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    I had an ex who deserved 50 chain punches in 5 seconds followed by a rabbit punch. I never once laid a finger on her.

    I swear the bitch thought I was mad because I never punched her.

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    Being drunk is the most common excuse. Then the GF will say ''Oh he drinks a lot'' and fail to establish a connection.

    Like you say, it's excitement and drama on her part. That's why they bring it on themselves. The feminists are confused.

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    The worst ones are those who punch to leave no mark, like in the stomach or Pat's M.O of leaving the top off a bottle of poppers, lubing up in the small hours and ramraiding

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    None of you have ever been on the recieving end of a pschyopath.

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    True I haven't , any signs of psychopathic behavior and off I'd go.

    If women did the same too, then the nasty men would have to learn to be nice , if they wanted lady friends .

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Pat
    A lot of women stick up for their mans violent, often drunken outbursts, putting up with the shit in the name of a relationship, where they are too scared to get out. Why is that? How have these cowardly hard men got them where they want them? Locked their passports in a safe? Balanced one set of house keys between the two of them so he can keep an eye on her?

    What is to stop that woman from fleeing the home (with or without kids) when the brute is out? The chances are it's his home anyway so there's no loss there. Many woman say how much their life is hell due to abusive men but choose to stay with them, supporting them and even protecting them in court cases. Is it fickle? Stupid? Yeah I'd say so, and I'll also say myself that these women deserve it in some cases. If it's so bad, then fuck off outta there. I hate mosquitoes, but I don't sit in their nest continually complaining about it, do I?
    What a shit thread, and what a lot of judgemental ill-informed bollocks you spout on it.

    Unless you've been in the position these women have what makes you qualified to comment on their motivation for staying with an abuser? Do you even know the first thing about the abused/abuser relationship dynamic? Sounds like you might do...

    So, a lot of abused women "deserve" it? What a horridly warped perspective that only utter cowardly cvnts would subscribe to.

    If some big meathead decided to bully you and give you a few slaps in a pub you'd be a quivering snivelling wreck, yet you feel you can judge and criticise women who put up with that sort of abuse on a daily basis?

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    my abusive husband got me arrested because in swiss law it was against the law that a wife left the marital home for a night.

    But the police did not know about the abuse, so i was let off. But was never let home again,

    I was homeless, but luckily found a flat, and the verbal abuse started. on my fone at work, at home etc, i got a restraining order out,

    Its sad when love becomes hate and fear,

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue
    Some women are just addicted to the drama, they love a good fight, shouting and escalating layers of abuse. A shinny black eye or too ? never mind -painful but worth it , because next morning his will be back with a bunch of flowers and a reasonable explanation about the flying headbutt . And the making up makes it all worthwhile . Soon they are best mates again until..... etc etc
    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Pat
    Being drunk is the most common excuse. Then the GF will say ''Oh he drinks a lot'' and fail to establish a connection. Like you say, it's excitement and drama on her part. That's why they bring it on themselves. The feminists are confused.
    OMFG. I don't believe this shit. What is wrong with you two?
    Quote Originally Posted by patsycat
    None of you have ever been on the recieving end of a pschyopath.
    They don't get it, Pats
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    True I haven't , any signs of psychopathic behavior and off I'd go.
    Easy to say, before you know what it's like. Just imagine if when you leave, you have no independence, no finances, no home, nothing. Imagine if you'd been indoctrinated into thinking you deserved it. Still so sure you're off?
    Quote Originally Posted by khmen
    What a shit thread, and what a lot of judgemental ill-informed bollocks you spout on it. Unless you've been in the position these women have what makes you qualified to comment on their motivation for staying with an abuser? Do you even know the first thing about the abused/abuser relationship dynamic? Sounds like you might do... So, a lot of abused women "deserve" it? What a horridly warped perspective that only utter cowardly cvnts would subscribe to. If some big meathead decided to bully you and give you a few slaps in a pub you'd be a quivering snivelling wreck, yet you feel you can judge and criticise women who put up with that sort of abuse on a daily basis?
    Thank you! A voice of reason.
    Quote Originally Posted by patsycat
    Its sad when love becomes hate and fear,
    And that says it all

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    On a casual stroll out on the seafront, I happened to stumble upon a bloke and a woman having an enormous shouting match which descended into violence - the woman smacking the guy in the head with a rolling pin , then the guy belting the woman.
    Next thing a copper turns up but instead of trying to calm things down he starts clouting the guy with his truncheon. Then, cutting a long story short the guy wrestles the truncheon from the copper and starts belting his Mrs AND the copper.

    Just to cap it all off this crocodile turns up and nicks all the sausages!

    ok , I'll get my coat ....

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    It's a world i have never understood even though i have attended many domestics. The wife/partner, despite having had the living crap beaten out of them, almost always reply 'but i love him'

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    Quote Originally Posted by khmen View Post

    So, a lot of abused women "deserve" it? What a horridly warped perspective that only utter cowardly cvnts would subscribe to.
    That's my opinion. Yes.

    Don't understand who the cowards are in your statement. The ones who despise & hate the cowards, or the cowards themselves?

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    Much too complicated to put a handle on it.

    Much better left to the people involved to sort out as no one knows what is going down once they are behind closed doors.

    Sort of like the Israeli and Palestinian gig I recon, let them sort there own shit out.

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    That dick Socal will be along soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by khmen View Post

    If some big meathead decided to bully you and give you a few slaps in a pub you'd be a quivering snivelling wreck, yet you feel you can judge and criticise women who put up with that sort of abuse on a daily basis?
    He's judging them BECAUSE they put up with it on a daily basis. He's saying they're stupid twats for putting up with it on a daily basis.
    If some bully at the pub slapped pattycake around he may or may not have deserved it.
    If he continues going to the same pub and getting slapped around by the same bully, what would you say then?
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    Just to come in from another angle so to speak ,, when my last marriage of 28 years fell apart the boot was on the other foot so to speak , my ex went crazy due to the loss of our youngest son and she beat 7 bells out of me in frustration , not once many times , I paid for private councilling for her , I went to the cops with my injuries and IF I had given thema statement they were gonna section her .

    I didnt want that , in a way it wasnt her fault , it wasnt her ,, I stayed as long as I could in the hope it would abate ,, but in the end it got far too bloody dangerous , I am proud to say despite HUGE provocation I never laid a finger on her in retaliation , it was my Mum in the end told me to move out for my own safety as it was making her ill .

    Dunno at the time I suppose you hope it will work out ,, looking back now I know I was wrong to do so
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