Thread: The Hunt Is On!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by koman

Cobra's have personality and character, so I always root for them as a rule

And suddenly, in my mind's eye, you look like Voldermort.

Originally Posted by somtamslap

Originally Posted by koman

Cobra's have personality and character, so I always root for them as a rule

And suddenly, in my mind's eye, you look like Voldermort.

Don't worry Slap....the Croydon Cobra's are not dangerous.....but you need to watch out for the Chavs...

I agree with Koman....mostly snakes are just creatures going about their own business. And mostly they move away from humans if they hear them coming. It's only occasionally that they get a surprise when someone steps over a log and onto them that they bite. Either that or they bite the people who see one and yell "SNAKE ! Let's kill it !"
And only occasionally an aggressive one appears. Just a slight case of human death then....

Davis, if it's a king cobra, they sometimes latch on rather than striking once or repeatedly like others. And they have enough venom to kill 30-40 people.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

I agree with Koman....mostly snakes are just creatures going about their own business. And mostly they move away from humans if they hear them coming. It's only occasionally that they get a surprise when someone steps over a log and onto them that they bite. Either that or they bite the people who see one and yell "SNAKE ! Let's kill it !"
And only occasionally an aggressive one appears. Just a slight case of human death then....

Davis, if it's a king cobra, they sometimes latch on rather than striking once or repeatedly like others. And they have enough venom to kill 30-40 people.

Snakes don't bother me. I've been around them all my life; I used to catch them as a kid and had cages full of them. Poisonous snakes don't bother me either. But King Cobras are a slightly different deal and, as I said, I worry about my not overly bright Labs.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

mostly they move away from humans if they hear them coming

Snakes have highly sensitive receptors. They feel the vibrations of anything coming and move away if they can. Cobra's are not an aggressive snake but they do have a dangerous poison which they use to incapacitate their prey and when necessary to defend themselves. (NB Prey does not include farangs)

Pit vipers are much more dangerous because they are extremely poisonous and also aggressive. Cobra's are like the Salvation Army of snakes compared to Pit vipers. They are more like the Hells Angels or Crypts....of snakeland..

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Which forearm, Davis?

I was looking forward to Davis showing us his new cobra skin boots...

This is the snake I was talking about above. Not nearly as impressive looking as a Cobra, but much more dangerous, and quite common in some parts of Thailand....and more recently Croydon, England.....

Calloselasma rhodostoma (Malayan Pit Viper, Malaysian Pit Viper)

Thais say: Ngoo gap pa

Length: Less than 1 meter. Female Malayan Pit Vipers are the larger and fatter snakes. Males of the species don’t make it to 1 meter long.

Range: Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Java, Sumatra, Malaysia, Vietnam, Burma, and China.

Notes: These vipers are distant cousins to North American “copperhead” snakes. These vipers prefer dry, flat areas. They are known as lazy snakes. There were 5500 bites in Malaysia in 2008. Malayan Pit Vipers don’t get out of the way when they sense someone coming. After they bite they’re often found in exactly the same spot. These snakes are so dangerous when handled because they are not consistent with their behavior. One day they will be calm. The next, or the next 10 minutes – they will violently strike lightening fast.Their preferred habitat is under dry leaves, wood, or rocks. They are active during the night mostly, especially while raining. Nickname: Finger rotters. If they get you in the finger – you’ll likely lose part of your finger without immediate care.

Habitat: Forests, rubber plantations, bamboo patches, farmland, grassland. Often lies in the short or long grass.

Active Time? Day and night

Originally Posted by koman

but you need to watch out for the Chavs...

The secret is to out-chav the chavs...

I liked the referenced one in "Full Metal Jacket," Mississippi Black Snake.

Originally Posted by somtamslap

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Mr Slap. Are you over-reacting again?

No such thing as an over reaction when it comes to demon serpents from hell - and yes, that's all of them. Every single snake on the planet.

Slap, you need to move yourself to New Zealand. Snakes haven't been invented over there.

I nearly run over a 5 meter King Cobra on Koh Phan-gan in 1988, Ive got the photos to prove it.

There's a thread on TD about snakes and its in there.

Big fooker it was. More to that story but I don't tell it because conts don't believe me.

I remember that photo- but wasn't it already dead?

^

Oh shit no, it was trying to get up an embankment and its body length took up the width of the road.

Massive monster of a thing, dead in minutes if bitten by the bugger.

Originally Posted by koman

They are not aggressive snakes and just want to hang out and eat frogs and rodents. The won't harm you if you just leave them alone.

I take exception to that.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

But King Cobras are a slightly different deal and, as I said, I worry about my not overly bright Labs.

they are quite a rare snake and are usually found in the rain forests, well away from humans

if you did not positively identify it, then it may well have been a totally different species

Originally Posted by DrAndy

then it may well have been a totally different species

Such as yourself no doubt, being an alien isn't easy is it?

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

But King Cobras are a slightly different deal and, as I said, I worry about my not overly bright Labs.

they are quite a rare snake and are usually found in the rain forests, well away from humans

if you did not positively identify it, then it may well have been a totally different species

I did not positively identify it as a King Cobra. I believe it was Slap who said it sounded like a King. From the size and coloring, I'm certain it was a cobra; we've killed lots of them around here. King Cobras do live in rain forests, but also in many other areas including agricultural areas such as where I live. The rice paddy areas near where I lived in both Cambodia and India were loaded with them. I didn't get a good enough look at this one to make a positive ID.

Originally Posted by koman

This is the snake I was talking about above. Not nearly as impressive looking as a Cobra, but much more dangerous

A Malaysian Pit Viper is a lot less aggressive than a cobra. They are stealth creatures and will attack only if you go near or surprise them and when they do bite they won't put all there venom into you. A King cobra is renowned for being aggressive, can kill an elephant with it's venom and will come after you if it has it's kids nearby.
Those Malyasian pit vipers are all around the snake temple in Penang, Malaysia. There's no cobras in there.

Here's a king cobra I saw yeaterday, unfortunately I missed the shot when he struck at the guy

This?
i would have done that with my own teeth,

here's a cobra for you mate

Davis, You may want to keep alert as you don't know if this was a female or not. Perhaps she's dumped her offspring somewhere on your property.

Originally Posted by Dillinger

Originally Posted by koman

This is the snake I was talking about above. Not nearly as impressive looking as a Cobra, but much more dangerous

A Malaysian Pit Viper is a lot less aggressive than a cobra. They are stealth creatures and will attack only if you go near or surprise them and when they do bite they won't put all there venom into you. A King cobra is renowned for being aggressive, can kill an elephant with it's venom and will come after you if it has it's kids nearby.
Those Malyasian pit vipers are all around the snake temple in Penang, Malaysia. There's no cobras in there.

Well, OK, but a lot of the zoology sites seem to disagree. In any case I was talking about Cobra's and not the King Cobra which is actually a very particular species of Cobra and according to one site, not a true Cobra at all but a separate species with similar, but different origins .....so there is lots of conflicting information on these things.

King Cobras are generally described as "shy" and retiring, but will stand their ground and become very aggressive when confronted. They will certainly defend their young aggressively, as most wild creatures do, but at other times they will hightail it as soon as they sense the vibrations of some clod footed farang heading their way.

Here is a piece from one site about Pit Vipers:

Calloselasma rhodostoma (Malayan Pit Viper)

Behaviour:
Predominantly nocturnal especially when it is drizzling, but also active during the day. It bites, is an aggressive snake and advances very quickly.


Strong poison, deadly!

Given the choice, which one would you like to confront? ....the King Cobra is without a doubt the mose fearsome snake of all, just because of it's size; the rearing head and the hissing (almost growling) sounds it emits and the large amount of poison it carries. Other Cobra's pale in comparison.

There is much confusion over Pit Vipers because there are so many sub-species of the things and they have a wide variety of characteristics. I suppose the thing is to avoid all of these guys if possible...

Originally Posted by ltnt

Davis, You may want to keep alert as you don't know if this was a female or not. Perhaps she's dumped her offspring somewhere on your property.

Cheers. The guys have been beating surrounding lots today. So far, nothing.

^That's good. wonder what the attraction was for him on your property? You might want to find out? It wasen't your Labs that's for sure.

If I had to go near a pit viper or a king Cobra, it would be the viper everytime, they will just give you a warning shot to back off, whereas a king cobra will repeatedly bite and they will leave their fangs in and hang on. You will have only 15 to 20 mins to get anti venom with the king cobra and that's what makes them so feared