Thread: Cheap energy anyone?

You probably remember the hype about cold fusion some years back. There was no cold fusion but maybe there was SOMETHING. Scientists keep thinking about new approaches to nuclear science.

There is the Widom/Larson theory. It is at least not violating the laws of physics as we know it. The NASA Langley research center confirmed that they work on verifying that theory.

“Our experiments are based upon the earlier Piantelli-Focardi work, which were some of the better bits extant,” Bushnell wrote. “But we are trying to core down on the theory, as well as utilize it for system optimization. We are not trying to do a net energy demo at all, we are simply trying to make sure there is a valid theoretical understanding.”

Bushnell told New Energy Times that their LENR experimental approach is based on the nickel-hydrogen research of Francesco Piantelli, retired from the University of Siena, and Sergio Focardi, retired from the University of Bologna.

The theory NASA is evaluating is the “Ultra-Low-Momentum Neutron Catalyzed Theory of LENRs” developed by Allan Widom and Lewis Larsen

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If it works a some people claim a new age of cheap energy is just around the corner. And it does not require something rare and expensive as Palladium. It works with Nickel which we have plenty of.

The idea is producing very slow Neutrons that would be absorbed by Nickel. The Nickel atom then breaks apart and produces Copper and energy, a lot of energy. The radiation produced by this process would be so low that you could put it in your house or your car without shielding. Electricity would become very cheap. Coal, oil, or gas for energy production would be obsolete.

The system would be light and compact enough that it could also drive airplanes and probably rockets. That would really open the whole solar system for research and even settlement.

Oil would still be needed as raw material for the chemical industry. But with electricity so cheap it would be feasible to produce it from atmospheric CO2 and water. So oil would have to compete on price. See the https://teakdoor.com/world-news/11678...ml#post2245904 (Engineers make petrol out of thin air.) thread.

Something that sounds too good to be true usually is. But it just might happen, at least NASA sees that process plausible enough to do research on it. There are a few people out there who propose to sell products very soon but they may be up to a scam.

Thorium Lasers: The Thoroughly Plausible Idea for Nuclear Cars | GE Reports

Another design, using Thorium, that may not be totally off. Thorium-Reactors are proven to be working. However it used to be much more expensive than conventional fission and was not used. A shame as they would be extremely safe compared to present designs using enriched Uranium and producing Plutonium.

Here a claim about a system small and simple enough to put in cars.

Edit: This seems to be a scam, even GE fell for. But what I said about Thorium reactors is true.

Two historic individuals to google.

Nicolai Tesla
Wilhelm Reich

Both geniuses were highly engaged, and successful, with the ideals of easy and free energy for the masses and society.
You can guess that they were systematically suppressed and withered.
Their theories were stolen and vaulted for safe-keeping.

You really wouldn't expect any controlling and supressive systems to promote advanced and free energy for the populations, would you?
It's all about profiteering and creating dependency.

I was in China Town today. For the last few years there have been a few stalls selling boxes you site between the main board and the feeds to the rest of the house. Anyone know what they are about?

Or you could just plug into the nextdoors line as the friendly locals do to Farang owned businesses.

seriously though, wasnt kepler into all of that decades ago?

Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, the Realism and the Outlook
by Dennis Bushnell, Chief Scientist, NASA Langley Research Center
There are estimates using just the performance of some of the devices under study that 1% of the nickel mined on the planet each year could produce the world's energy requirements at the order of 25% the cost of coal.

No promises, but some seriously "strange" things are going on, which we may be closer to understanding and if we can optimize/engineer such, the world changes. Worldwide, it is worth far more resources than are currently being devoted to this research arena. There is a need to core down and determine "truth" and if useful, the need to engineer and apply.

Never happen unless the oil boys go into it. Yeee Haaaa motherfxckers

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

I was in China Town today. For the last few years there have been a few stalls selling boxes you site between the main board and the feeds to the rest of the house. Anyone know what they are about?

Speaking of China...
Has anyone been aware of their quiet yet intense developing of the uses for broad solar and wind power? The current leaders in "green" possibilities.

They might be the leader in alternative [non-fossil fuels] energy presently.
Shouldn't surprise anyone.

Within a decade, one might expect the Chinese to have nearly a universal alternative/natural energy sources and operations throughout the country.

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The use of electric vehicles over there is massive. From skateboards, to foldable bikes, to scooters, cars and buses.

^ Electric vehicles are almost entirely powered by fossil fuels. In a decade, China will be getting, at best, a few percent of its energy from renewable sources - all that's going to do is reduce the rate of increase in fossil fuel consumption very slightly.

Originally Posted by Zooheekock

^ Electric vehicles are almost entirely powered by fossil fuels. In a decade, China will be getting, at best, a few percent of its energy from renewable sources - all that's going to do is reduce the rate of increase in fossil fuel consumption very slightly.

Unfortunately true but at least they are starting to make an effort.

And Note to all the conspiracy theorists. If there were simple cheap solutions that alredy work China would use them and their existence could no longer be suppressed.

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

I was in China Town today. For the last few years there have been a few stalls selling boxes you site between the main board and the feeds to the rest of the house. Anyone know what they are about?

No idea, but I'd like to know more. Are those boxes connected/wired to the main board, like a transformer, then feeds off that to appliances?

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

I was in China Town today. For the last few years there have been a few stalls selling boxes you site between the main board and the feeds to the rest of the house. Anyone know what they are about?

No idea, but I'd like to know more. Are those boxes connected/wired to the main board, like a transformer, then feeds off that to appliances?

Not sure, back there in a few days and will enquire.

Cheers.

that's OK, ENT

always willing to help and answer any questions you may ask


speaking of which, what did you do with those rubies you bought in Patpong?

[QUOTE=Zooheekock;2350320]^ Electric vehicles are almost entirely powered by fossil fuels. In a decade, China will be getting, at best, a few percent of its energy from renewable sources - all that's going to do is reduce the rate of increase in fossil fuel consumption very slightly.[/QUOT

Great point!

I bump this thread for a new development. The phenomenon has now been independetly confirmed by a third party. The device was running for 4 days and produced excess heat on a magnitude that cannot be explained by any chemical process yet did not produce any radioactive radiation or waste products.

Indication of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device
containing hydrogen loaded nickel powder.


Giuseppe Levi

Bologna University, Bologna, Italy


Evelyn Foschi

Bologna, Italy


Torbjörn Hartman, Bo Höistad,
Roland Pettersson and
Lars Tegnér

Uppsala University, Uppsala, Sweden


Hanno Essén

Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden


Abstract:

An experimental investigation of possible anomalous heat production in a special type of reactor tube named E-Cat HT is carried out. The reactor tube is charged with a small amount of hydrogen loaded nickel powder plus some additives. The reaction is primarily initiated by heat from resistor coils inside the reactor tube. Measurement of the produced heat was performed with high-resolution thermal imaging cameras, recording data every second from the hot reactor tube. The measurements of electrical power input were performed with a large bandwidth three-phase power analyzer. Data were collected in two experimental runs lasting 96 and 116 hours, respectively. An anomalous heat production was indicated in both experiments. The 116-hour experiment also included a calibration of the experimental set-up without the active charge present in the E-Cat HT. In this case, no extra heat was generated beyond the expected heat from the electric input. Computed volumetric and gravimetric energy densities were found to be far above those of any known chemical source. Even by the most conservative assumptions as to the errors in the measurements, the result is still one order of magnitude greater than conventional energy sources.

The article.

[1305.3913] Indication of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device

A pdf with lots of details, not easy to read, quite scientific.

http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1305/1305.3913.pdf

I don't know how credible those people are. But I don't see the common signs that usually give scams away.

I still have that gut feeling that something that sounds too good to be true usually is not true. But maybe really there is that future with cheap abundant environmentally friendly energy just around the corner. This would be cheaper than oil ever was.

Imagine a device simple, safe and cheap enough to put it in your basement for heating or in your car for driving. The process requires only very small amounts of cheap and abundant materials like Nickel and Hydrogen.

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Two historic individuals to google. Nicolai Tesla

Wilhelm Reich

Reich was a psychoanalyst who believed orgasms were the best cure for everything

he has been a hero of mine since I saw a film about him in the 60's

nothing to do with cheap energy

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Imagine a device simple, safe and cheap enough to put it in your basement for heating or in your car for driving. The process requires only very small amounts of cheap and abundant materials like Nickel and Hydrogen.

and if you don't have a basement, the device will make you one?