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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

'watchdog' timer expiration"

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Would these guys be able to assist, they talked the talk in 2013:

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"DELL-Geoff P

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08-28-2013 02:33 PM

RE: The watchdog timer expired.

I apologize for the delay in responding. After reviewing the errors and doing some research, the error is coming from Dell's OpenManage software v7.2 . Our recommendation is to update your OpenManage to version 7.3 and monitor. This version should address the timeout error in this particular service is giving the watchdog error.
Regards,

Geoff P
Dell | Social Outreach Services - Enterprise"

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Originally Posted by OhOh

Would these guys be able to assist, they talked the talk in 2013:

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They don't speak the same language.

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It is 60 years since Russian pilot and cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin became the first human to leave the embrace of planet Earth and venture into space.

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The name lost in translation ...

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Who’s afraid of Yuri Gagarin? State Department celebrates space day by ERASING first man in orbit

Celebrating the anniversary of human spaceflight but omitting the name of Yuri Gagarin suggests that the US establishment is so insecure that it seems physically incapable of acknowledging any achievements of non-Americans.
Who’s afraid of Yuri Gagarin? State Department celebrates space day by ERASING first man in orbit — RT Op-ed

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https://twitter.com/StateDept/status...ght-gagarin%2F

Boomers are not going to forget. I remember sputnik, we all went outside at night with our binoculars and telescopes to see it. Living in the desert in Arabia it was clearly visible. Then a couple of years later being shocked that the USSR beat us into orbit with Yuri Gargarin, hell I remember when they shot up Valentina Tereshkova the first female cosmonaut as well. Then all we did was go up to space and come right back down with Shepard and then Grissom. Finally we got John Glenn into orbit. But every American boomer for sure remembers who dominated the early space voyages.

Laika, the first (?) animal to orbit the earth a few years before Gagarin.

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Originally Posted by lom

Laika, the first (?) animal to orbit the earth a few years before Gagarin.

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Once I discovered that this was not at all fun for the dog I sort of put this achievement out of my mind. In reality it was a brutal one way trip for the poor stray dog.

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Originally Posted by aging one

Boomers are not going to forget. I remember sputnik, we all went outside at night with our binoculars and telescopes to see it. Living in the desert in Arabia it was clearly visible. Then a couple of years later being shocked that the USSR beat us into orbit with Yuri Gargarin, hell I remember when they shot up Valentina Tereshkova the first female cosmonaut as well. Then all we did was go up to space and come right back down with Shepard and then Grissom. Finally we got John Glenn into orbit. But every American boomer for sure remembers who dominated the early space voyages.

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But who remembers they killed Laika the Dog?

^^ As I posted everybody I knew. Took a while before the truth was sniffed out but when it did it was well publicized.

An earthquake with Tsunami in the space industry.

NASA has officially selected SpaceX Starship as the Artemis Moon lander. NASA had wanted two companies but decided for only one because of funding restrictions.

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The 3 proposals separately.

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The 3 scaled to size.
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The Blue Origin/Natonal Team proposal cut their price in half to stay in the race but were still to expensive for NASAs budget.

Wow, that's a monster!

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Originally Posted by TheRealKW

Wow, that's a monster!

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Yes, it is. It is a revolution in size and capacity and is supposed to be as revolutionary in cost.

Now I have slept over it and had the chance to think about it I am deeply suspicious. This came out of nowhere yesterday. The press conference was called so suddenly that SpaceX did not even have time to be represented. It lets me think that NASA made their decision and made it public immediately, before Congress could put pressure on them, to change it.

These are old renders. There was a new one yesterday, with some changes, but the size remains.

Looks like at risk of toppling over if it isn't landed on a perfectly flat hard piece of rock.


Will it have some sort of anchors or something underneath it that secures it? (I'd imagine not)

They do seen oddly impractical, sitting there like that....like those pictures of rockets from the covers of 1950s science fiction novels.

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Originally Posted by Edmond

Looks like at risk of toppling over if it isn't landed on a perfectly flat hard piece of rock.

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Last night I used an old picture, an early design. Yesterday they released a new render, with better legs. They also can do precision landings. NASA can select a site with very flat surface.

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Originally Posted by Latindancer

like those pictures of rockets from the covers of 1950s science fiction novels.

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This is the first regular interplanetary ship. All in one, propulsion section, tanks, passenger section. People have said, this is a rocket like God and Heinlein intended.

Very cool. That does look a bit safer. :)

When are they due to land, 2024?

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Originally Posted by Takeovers

This is the first regular interplanetary ship. All in one, propulsion section, tanks, passenger section. People have said, this is a rocket like God and Heinlein intended.

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looks like the could send a whole platoon to the moon on that, and some.

The only object bigger than that, are the balls on the astronauts trying to land it on the moon for the first time. :)

"During the Artemis program, NASA will land the first woman and first person of color on the Moon"

NASA Artemis

Christ, why don't they just send the best people up there, be them all black females, an Indian, a Chinese transvestite, what's with the preselection based on race and gender :dunno: which is really quite racist and gendererist against any better applicants that weren't selected because they weren't the correct race or gender. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Edmond

which is really quite racist and gendererist against any better applicants that weren't selected because they weren't the correct race or gender.

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Where does it say that they were selected because of their race and gender?
Where does it say that they weren't the best?

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Originally Posted by lom

Where does it say they were selected because of their race and gender?
Where does it say that they weren't the best?

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The astronauts that will land on the moon haven't been selected yet.


But their race and gender has been.

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Originally Posted by Edmond

But their race and gender has been.

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Yes, it is even in the name. Artemis is the sister of Apollo.

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Originally Posted by Edmond

When are they due to land, 2024?

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Indeed, they keep the fiction of 2024 landing alive for the moment. It will probably take a little longer. But the selection of SpaceX is based on 2024. The NASA budget for a human lander allows to pay SpaceX for development of the lander until then. The other bids would take a higher budget than provided or take longer.

The $2.9 billion of the SpaceX offer include 1 unmanned demo mission and a manned demo mission in 2024.

A link to a high resolution version of the new render. Good view on the size of the astronauts and the moon rover. I wonder if they really use a buggy without pressure vessel, just like they did with Apollo. But that is not part of the SpaceX lander contract. It is separate NASA.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzHwj4wV...name=4096x4096

For scale a high resolution picture of Apollo 11.

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Originally Posted by Takeovers

Yes, it is even in the name. Artemis is the sister of Apollo.

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I don't see anything wrong with that, I think it's a nice name, brother and sister.


The candidates are obviously separated into separate pools (probably unofficially)

Pool A: People of Colour.
Pool B: Females of, ummm, non-colour
Pool C: Males of.... non-colour.

With the best of each pool selected. So there is one guaranteed person of colour and a female.

What if the best 3 applicants all come from Pool B, and 3 people that happen to be 'Of Colour', or Pool A, that happen to be female are the best 3, lesser applicants are going to be chosen (on a mission that endangers the lives of all on board) based on their race and gender. And better applicants would be excluded because of their race and gender. If that's not racism and genderism what is. :)

It's amazing that Nasa, who actually are Rocket Scientists ( :)) would allow political pressure to do this.

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Originally Posted by Edmond

If that's not racism and genderism what is.

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For some, "it's the rules".

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Originally Posted by Edmond

I don't see anything wrong with that, I think it's a nice name, brother and sister.


The candidates are obviously separated into separate pools (probably unofficially)

Pool A: People of Colour.
Pool B: Females of, ummm, non-colour
Pool C: Males of.... non-colour.

With the best of each pool selected. So there is one guaranteed person of colour and a female.

What if the best 3 applicants all come from Pool B, and 3 people that happen to be 'Of Colour', or Pool A, that happen to be female are the best 3, lesser applicants are going to be chosen (on a mission that endangers the lives of all on board) based on their race and gender. And better applicants would be excluded because of their race and gender. If that's not racism and genderism what is. :)

It's amazing that Nasa, who actually are Rocket Scientists ( :)) would allow political pressure to do this.

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take your political complaints elsewhere; this is. A decent thread

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Originally Posted by TheRealKW

take your political complaints elsewhere;

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Shall do;

I'm writing a heavily worded letter as we speak;

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Originally Posted by Takeovers

A link to a high resolution version of the new render. Good view on the size of the astronauts and the moon rover. I wonder if they really use a buggy without pressure vessel, just like they did with Apollo. But that is not part of the SpaceX lander contract. It is separate NASA.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzHwj4wV...name=4096x4096

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That's incredible.
But really, what's the point?
All that money would be better spent improving earth in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Cujo

All that money would be better spent improving earth in my opinion.

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People will need to change the lyrics to 'Whitey's on the moon' this time round.

For the long term survival of the human race, we need to become interplanetary, this is a start.

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Originally Posted by Edmond

For the long term survival of the human race, we need to become interplanetary, this is a start.

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Yes bring our faults to another planet instead of fixing them here, I'm sure that will work out well..

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Originally Posted by lom

Yes bring our faults to another planet instead of fixing them here,

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The threats to the long term survival of humans as a single planetary race are very small things (viruses), very big things (asteroids), and swift natural climate change, 'fixing' Earth does nothing to change them. Fix the planet (whatever that means) and it doesn't change the eventual extinction of the human race.

The whole "we need to become interplanetary " thing is utter BS.
Explain to me why?
The earth and humans are symbiotic. other planets are noxious to us.

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Originally Posted by Edmond

The threats to the long term survival of humans as a single planetary race are very small things (viruses), very big things (asteroids), and swift natural climate change, 'fixing' Earth does nothing to change them. Fix the planet (whatever that means) and it doesn't change the eventual extinction of the human race.

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So your solution is ?

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Originally Posted by Cujo

So your solution is ?

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My solution to what?

A nice video about the NASA selection process for the lunar landing system.

NASA has declared the SpaceX Starship as a feasible design and expects SpaceX to succeed. Starship used to be seen by many as a pipedream, something completely unrealistic, never achievable, NASA clearly said they disagree.

Why NASA Chose Starship - Human Landing System - YouTube

NASA astronaut Kate Rubins returns safely to Earth after six months in space

NASA astronaut Kate Rubins, 42, safely returned to Earth on Saturday after living aboard the International Space Station for six months, according to NASA. Rubins, along with Russian cosmonauts Sergey Kud-Sverchkov and Sergey Ryzhikov, arrived southeast of the town Dzhezkazgan, Kazakhstan, in a parachute landing at 10:55 a.m. local time.

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NASA astronaut Kate Rubins returns safely to Earth after six months in space - CBS News

Russia to withdraw from International Space Station starting from 2025, deputy PM confirms, as Moscow works on replacement
18 Apr, 2021

Russia will end its participation in the International Space Station after it reaches the end of its planned lifespan in 2024, a senior official has confirmed. Moscow is already working on a new station to replace the current one.

Moscow will “notify [partnering countries] about its withdrawal from the ISS starting from 2025,” Russian Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov told TV channel Rossiya-1 on Sunday. He added that the country would hold consultations with other nations about future cooperation once the station ceased to function.

The deputy prime minister’s office told the TASS news agency that “reports of malfunctions have become more frequent in recent times,” and an inspection of the ISS is required to avoid possible emergencies.

Astronauts have struggled to fix air leaks, due to cracks appearing in some of the modules. Vladimir Solovyev, the deputy head of Energia, which led the development of the ISS on Russia’s behalf, said in November that several elements of the station had been damaged beyond replacement and would be shut down after 2025. Energia is currently working on the Russia Orbital Space Station that is set to replace the ISS.

The first element of the ISS was launched in 1998. The station’s lifespan was eventually extended to 2020 and later to 2024.

The head of Russia’s space agency Roscosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, said last year that after the ISS stops functioning, Progress cargo spacecraft will pull it from orbit. The ISS will then descend into the ocean the same way Russia’s Mir space station did back in 2001.

Russia to withdraw from International Space Station starting from 2025, deputy PM confirms, as Moscow works on replacement — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union