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    Thailand: Happy Days...those retro days are gone

    Another 'looking back at the old days' thread...but upon looking around here, I couldn't find that many, so here goes, some things we used to do before they changed the rules or technology advanced.....or got clued up...


    I think that front tyre needs a little air: The sex tourists express

    Smoking on the Ekkamai to Pattaya sex tourists express:

    When I first used this service, the buses were tatty, dented and one even had to change a wheel at Sri Racha. The journey was so tedious that the onboard entertainment, which was a television mounted at the front of the gangway, was top notch viewing, if you liked a grainy video of a hideously choreographed musical that featured at least one katoey acting up.

    The upside was that in a few cases, this service, which was mostly farangs on their way to Fun City, was a bit of a party. You could smoke and consume alcohol freely without anyone even taking a second look. It was like pre-dinner drinks before the main course.

    I'm not sure what year they brought in the policy but the ash trays remained in place on the seatbacks of the old buses until at least 2002, maybe longer, I'm not sure but those were the days.
    Disembarking at the rickety bus station in Pattaya in that heat was no fun afterwards.

    My first internet meet up via a Thailand teachers forum:

    ''You're sad you are, meeting faceless members of a net forum, why don't you get a life'' Is what I used to stand by, until I bumped into a forum member at an internet shop who had the forum on his screen, openly posting away. We became friends and he arranged a meet up with other members. So off we went, to the sparse beer garden between (I think) Sois 15 and 17 on Sukhumvit, (It's a huge office/residential building now) into the unknown, who the hell would appear?

    Anyway myself and Wally Raffles arrived first, then Poolcleaner, Magpie, Mangoedout and Wangsuda and a couple of others whose names I don't recall, sorry. Things were a bit tense at first, how much of our real personalities and info do we disclose? Will they take photos and show the forum our faces (taboo in those days of faceless forums) ?

    I learned a lot from the others on this evening, the guys were a lot of laughs, and when I fell into my apartment at 2am, my whole philosophy changed. The next meet I had was with Bangkok Phil when we went to see a Bryan Ferry & The Pretenders double bill at the now defunct BEC Tero Hall by Suan Lum. He told me that evening that he wanted to physically beat the shit out of Smeg. (who was a great deal younger in them days but still up to his old (or new?) tricks)

    Maybe I did need to get out a bit more. There were a couple of later meet-ups with others that I sneaked off from through sheer boredom, but we won't talk about those.


    Remember these things?

    Getting a message to a Thai pager via the Thai operator:

    A tedious exercise that often had to be undertaken, because mobile phones were an expensive luxury. I had a part-time girlfriend who had a pager, and whenever I wanted to actually get in contact I would allow at least 2-3 hours before I knew she'd phone the hotel I was staying at. The hard thing wasn't her calling me, but getting through the paging operator.

    ''Hallo sawadii kaa''

    ME: ''I'd like to get a message to a pager number please'' (in english)

    ''Arai na?''

    (repeat my request more slowly)

    ''Arai na?''

    ME: ''Pager number ******, can I please send a message?''

    ''Arai na?'' (click, then she hung up)

    So I'd redial the pager operator and I later discovered that all I had to say was ''English please'' and I could repeat my request to someone who at least spoke pidgeon english, and after ten minutes of repeating myself slowly and then saying the message, it finally got relayed to the pager.

    Then I had to contemplate whether she'd reply, did she fancy it that night? If she didn't, the hotel phone simply wouldn't ring. So I'd sit in the room another tense two hours drinking and chain smoking with my fingers crossed.

    But, I always got a reply and have the evening I'd planned. Technology struggling to modernise at its best. A few friends later got pagers and the operators learned decent english, and then I got a numerical pager which you dialled and then typed in your number via your touchtone phone, and eventually I'd get a number come up on it. Brilliant, I yearn for those days, believe me.

    The first ever Uni girlfriend: (old scanned negative)


    The identity's been altered to protect the innocent


    The old booth at Faith Club, note the absense of any CD players (old scanned negative)

    I used to DJ at the old Faith Club (then it was Glow) on Sukhumvit 23, and usually the crowd hardly ever exceeded more than about 15-20 people, so the staff had a lot of time on their hands (nowadays they can fiddle on iPhones etc). This girl had a thing for me, as she was always the only one who brought my beers over (or the other staff hated my guts). She spoke no english at all, but I was smitten.

    Looking back, how we got together was a miracle, given my terrible Thai and her zero english skills, but one day it all clicked and the rest, as they say, was history. She even wore the uniform while we were out a few times.

    I was the envy of a few blokes who only went to bars and was asked several times if she had any willing friends, but according to me, she never did.

    I need a time machine.
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    How times change.

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    it's a different crowd now, same with RCA and all those places

    younger people, new attitude etc... etc...

    eventually you have to let it go, the party scene in Bangkok is constantly changing and adapting, and unless you are committed to follow it, a pointless exercise eventually, it's not worth it

    good times, good memories and yes the 1998 to 2003 years were the best years in Bangkok and Pattaya, but the world was also a better place. It has been difficult and shit since 2006.

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    1986, after nights out we often drove tuk tuks back home from thermae or patpong, with the driver crammed into the back seat. roadside police would just laugh and wave.

    definately easier times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile
    1986, after nights out we often drove tuk tuks back home from thermae or patpong, with the driver crammed into the back seat. roadside police would just laugh and wave.
    would have loved to try that, drunk

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    FFS Pat, the early 2000s were not the good old days....

    A better point of reference would be the mid 60s and early 70s.
    Those were the best times and the good old days.
    Different Thailand than you might even recognize.
    Before you were born, mate.

    Young whippersnappers....

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    For the current crowd THESE are the good old days in the making.
    The march of time is relentless.
    It's 10 years ago now.
    It'll be 20 years ago soon.

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    83, patong was cheap, fun, and safe. even the tuk tuks and jetskis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
    For the current crowd THESE are the good old days in the making.
    The march of time is relentless.
    It's 10 years ago now.
    It'll be 20 years ago soon.

    These current generations that seemed to be soaked in fashionable nostalgia, tend to hurry the process - pushing the measurement of time with the use of digital gadgetry en lieu of sundials.

    Last month was antiquity.
    Punks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
    For the current crowd THESE are the good old days in the making.
    The march of time is relentless.
    It's 10 years ago now.
    It'll be 20 years ago soon.

    These current generations that seemed to be soaked in fashionable nostalgia, tend to hurry the process - pushing the measurement of time with the use of digital gadgetry en lieu of sundials.

    Last month was antiquity.
    Punks.
    Exactly what the old farts were saying about you back in the day.
    Punk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    A better point of reference would be the mid 60s and early 70s.
    Those were the best times and the good old days.
    To some extent they were but more expensive relatively speaking. I recall when living in Ban Saray trying to get a phone line put in, cost was >1 million baht. Exchange rate then 25/1

    All electronics were a lot more paeng as were vehicles than in recent times.

    Simpler times but that was then and this is now.

    Tallest building in BKK was the Chockchai Steak House on Sukhumvit...
    A Deplorable Bitter Clinger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    A better point of reference would be the mid 60s and early 70s.
    Those were the best times and the good old days.
    To some extent they were but more expensive relatively speaking. I recall when living in Ban Saray trying to get a phone line put in, cost was >1 million baht. Exchange rate then 25/1

    All electronics were a lot more paeng as were vehicles than in recent times.

    Simpler times but that was then and this is now.

    Tallest building in BKK was the Chockchai Steak House on Sukhumvit...
    Fuck your modcons. Some circles, present day, can still get on nicely without the trouble.....just as before.

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    ^
    Got a cell phone there do ya, RS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    A better point of reference would be the mid 60s and early 70s.
    Those were the best times and the good old days.
    To some extent they were but more expensive relatively speaking. I recall when living in Ban Saray trying to get a phone line put in, cost was >1 million baht. Exchange rate then 25/1

    All electronics were a lot more paeng as were vehicles than in recent times.

    Simpler times but that was then and this is now.

    Tallest building in BKK was the Chockchai Steak House on Sukhumvit...
    Fuck your modcons. Some circles, present day, can still get on nicely without the trouble.....just as before.
    Albeit with a computer and internet connection.

    Maybe the circles he's talking about are the African tribesmen circles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    the 1998 to 2003 years were the best years in Bangkok and Pattaya, but the world was also a better place. It has been difficult and shit since 2006.
    Taksin's draconian midnight closing and 'war on drugs' kicked off the demise in 2003, and in Pattaya they were talking about the place becoming a 'family destination'....which we all laughed and poured scorn on....maybe they think they have now achieved this?

    It was quite unbelievable that many places actually did adhere to the midnight closing whilst simutaneously cursing the ugly, square faced prime minister.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    ^
    Got a cell phone there do ya, RS?
    No...I don't actually. Barbarian as it sounds.
    I don't find this obession in my life necessary....
    Before the advent of mobile devices, things got done life got on without the concern of being available 24 fucking 7.

    I use the missus'.....or one of the girls' - of course they have one or two.
    No one in my immediate circle have that many people that we need to be talking to all the time - a few dear friends and selected family members.

    So there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    A better point of reference would be the mid 60s and early 70s.
    Those were the best times and the good old days.
    To some extent they were but more expensive relatively speaking. I recall when living in Ban Saray trying to get a phone line put in, cost was >1 million baht. Exchange rate then 25/1

    All electronics were a lot more paeng as were vehicles than in recent times.

    Simpler times but that was then and this is now.

    Tallest building in BKK was the Chockchai Steak House on Sukhumvit...
    Fuck your modcons. Some circles, present day, can still get on nicely without the trouble.....just as before.
    Albeit with a computer and internet connection.

    Maybe the circles he's talking about are the African tribesmen circles.
    OK. I'll cop to the wonders of the interwebs.
    But truly, if all this ceased to exist tomorrow, I wouldn't lose any sleep.
    Life might be more "connected".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    things got done life got on without the concern of being available 24 fucking 7.
    I saw a woman out jogging last week and at the same time she was typing something onto her phone screen, probably telling twitter or facebook that she's ''out jogging lol''

    I fucking detest how all this has come upon us all so suddenly, and I detest the press/media quoting twitter comments by desperate-to-be-celebrities...the reason I don't read newspapers much any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Pat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    the 1998 to 2003 years were the best years in Bangkok and Pattaya, but the world was also a better place. It has been difficult and shit since 2006.
    Taksin's draconian midnight closing and 'war on drugs' kicked off the demise in 2003, and in Pattaya they were talking about the place becoming a 'family destination'....which we all laughed and poured scorn on....maybe they think they have now achieved this?

    It was quite unbelievable that many places actually did adhere to the midnight closing whilst simutaneously cursing the ugly, square faced prime minister.
    indeed, he was spoiling the party for us, I would never be home before 4am in those days

    after Thaksin midnight closing, getting drunk wasn't making much sense, and the girls were suddenly no so pretty

    everything went downhill from there, and we had to adapt

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    Tower Records in Thailand:

    I was very happy to find that Tower Records had branches in Thailand, well Bangkok and Pattaya anyway. I used them in London to get all the latest CDs, records and videos. Always extensively stocked, you walked in, picked your things and paid, simple.

    Even the Thai branches were like that, well stocked and easy to negotiate, even though certain things cost a bit more if they were 'imports' but they had them in stock, which was the main thing.
    Then the branches become sparse, dusty and unkempt. Large shelves were empty and dumped in a curtained off area of the store, which was shrinking fast space wise.

    Suddenly CD Warehouse appeared in its place, (Tower went bankrupt) rather more disorganised with stock levels dwindling down to the Thai or 'Inter' artistes that were the best sellers. You could order stuff, but it took a lifeline, and at the time I didn't buy off the internet (it wasn't safe) or download (I had no pc), so I was fucked.

    Of course CD Warehouse faded into oblivion (I rather enjoyed their 40 Baht CD sell-off sale at the end) and now there's only a select few music stores around Bangkok. Then I found that lady and her small store in Siam Square...she knows everything about what there is to know about any music genre and will most probably have it in stock, usually 20-30 Baht cheaper than any place else.

    (I can't recall her name but maybe some of you can)...oh yes I can, it's Look Maew!!!


    A well organised outfit in a disorganised place: At least you found what you wanted..
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