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    Aussie pension limited to 13 weeks overseas

    From another forum is the story of a yachtie heading off cruising in his retirement years only to have the gubmt cut off his pension
    How Long Can My Pension Be Paid While I Am Absent Australia

    After leaving Sorong we entered Indonesia proper. We got as far as Bitung/Menado and were informed that my Pension was suspended because the Australian government had changed the rules and now required that we live permantly in Australia.

    My payments were cut off without notice. I flew back to Darwin to sort it out and was told of the "new" rules for disability pensions, I do not know about other pensions.
    It definitely stuffed up my plans, pretty rude if you ask me, but I was told (with a smirk on the face of centrelink staff) that there was nothing I could do about it.
    Has anyone had or heard of issues here?

    I have visions of hoards of expats being forced to come home putting further strain on a barely coping health care system, putting further strain on housing and kicking tenants out of houses that they had rented out while OS.

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    I have always suspected that pension and superannuation schemes were a waste of investment with the payer ultimately being ripped of by the payee, in this case the government.

    Seems like my premonition is correct.

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    He has the physical capability to sail or crew a yacht but he lives off a Disability pension?

    Fuck him and the boat he sails on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    I have always suspected that pension and superannuation schemes were a waste of investment with the payer ultimately being ripped of by the payee, in this case the government.

    Seems like my premonition is correct.
    Exactly, put your money in here, we'll then pretend it's ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatboy
    I have visions of hoards of expats being forced to come home
    Are the majority of Aussie expats disabled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatboy
    I have visions of hoards of expats being forced to come home
    That'll be good. Then they won't be able to disrupt boat races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman
    Then they won't be able to disrupt boat races.
    that was really funny

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    The information below is a guide only. There are other rules which might affect you. You should contact Centrelink before you go to find out how your payment will be affected.
    Most Centrelink payments and services can only be paid for temporary absences of up to 13 weeks outside Australia and you must remain qualified for your payment while you are absent from Australia (you continue to meet the normal qualification rules for the payment, your permanent home is still in Australia, and you are only absent from Australia temporarily, e.g. for a holiday or a visit).
    Australia has formal social security agreements with particular countries to make sure you continue to get social security protection when you move between the agreement countries. Some payments can only be paid in very limited circumstances. For more information see Pensioners travelling to a country which has an International Social Security Agreement with Australia[1].
    In certain circumstances, you can continue to get your payment if you leave Australia, provided that:
    • you continue to be qualified for a payment- for example, if you receive a Disability Support Pension, you need to still be incapacitated for work. If you receive a Disability Support Pension, Parenting Payment Single or Carer Payment, you need to remain an Australian resident, i.e. you do not live in another country
    • you are not affected by 'former resident' provisions, and
    • you have served any minimum periods of return to Australia (if such rules apply to the payment you receive).
    This information is a guide only, as there are other rules which might affect you. To ensure your payment is not affected, contact Centrelink before you go overseas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by boatboy
    I have visions of hoards of expats being forced to come home
    Are the majority of Aussie expats disabled?
    Mentally, yes...

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    We have a similar problem in the UK whereby once you become non-resident your pension is frozen, unless you choose to reside in EU, USA, Philippines, Israel, Bosnia, etc. And yet
    A recent study by Oxford Economics confirmed the ICBP's beliefs that all pensioners who live overseas already create an economic savings of more than 30 Billion Pounds annually. The main sources of savings come from lack of demand on NHS, no added benefits, no social costs, etc. The study also considered recent surveys on the intentions of individuals to emigrate after retirement; these indicate that removal of the freezing policy would significantly increase the numbers wishing to emigrate and thus produce a corresponding additional increase in net savings to the UK economy of some 33 Billion Pounds over the next 20 years.
    Another benefit, not included in that 33 Billion Pounds, is that emigrants also relieve pressure on the shortage of hospital beds, facilities for the elderly and the shortage of affordable housing units.
    END THE UNFAIR FROZEN OVERSEAS PENSION POLICY - e-petitions

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    ^ very good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterpan View Post
    He has the physical capability to sail or crew a yacht but he lives off a Disability pension?

    Fuck him and the boat he sails on.
    Are you saying people with disabilities cant sail?
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    He is on a Power boat
    Turns key, motor goes vroom
    Presses button on anchor windlass and anchor comes up,
    Presses button on Autopilot and it steers a course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by boatboy
    I have visions of hoards of expats being forced to come home
    Are the majority of Aussie expats disabled?
    Did you click on the link?
    ALL pensioners, not just disabled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    We have a similar problem in the UK whereby once you become non-resident your pension is frozen, unless you choose to reside in EU, USA, Philippines, Israel, Bosnia, etc.
    At least you get the Philippines

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    As the baby boomers hit retirement age it's only gonna get worse.


    NZ government is already 'encouraging' people into private schemes. First steps to get the public onside before they make it mandatory. One day some government is gonna have to make the big call. Political suicide with all the oldie voting population. But it'll have to be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    We have a similar problem in the UK whereby once you become non-resident your pension is frozen, unless you choose to reside in EU, USA, Philippines, Israel, Bosnia, etc. And yet
    A recent study by Oxford Economics confirmed the ICBP's beliefs that all pensioners who live overseas already create an economic savings of more than 30 Billion Pounds annually. The main sources of savings come from lack of demand on NHS, no added benefits, no social costs, etc. The study also considered recent surveys on the intentions of individuals to emigrate after retirement; these indicate that removal of the freezing policy would significantly increase the numbers wishing to emigrate and thus produce a corresponding additional increase in net savings to the UK economy of some 33 Billion Pounds over the next 20 years.
    Another benefit, not included in that 33 Billion Pounds, is that emigrants also relieve pressure on the shortage of hospital beds, facilities for the elderly and the shortage of affordable housing units.
    END THE UNFAIR FROZEN OVERSEAS PENSION POLICY - e-petitions
    how much to cover medical or insurance costs per year when out of the UK.
    at retirement age ,that can or has to be at hugh cost.
    if you're not earning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by boatboy
    I have visions of hoards of expats being forced to come home
    Are the majority of Aussie expats disabled?
    Mentally, yes...
    Another one who didn't make the grade to live in Aus.

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    A trip home every 13 weeks.

    Quite a visa run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUSSIE EXPAT View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by boatboy
    I have visions of hoards of expats being forced to come home
    Are the majority of Aussie expats disabled?
    Mentally, yes...
    Another one who didn't make the grade to live in Aus.
    Not everyone wants a lobotomy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
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    I have visions of hoards of expats being forced to come home
    Are the majority of Aussie expats disabled?
    Mentally, yes...
    Another one who didn't make the grade to live in Aus.
    Not everyone wants a lobotomy.
    You're right, those that did were sent back

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatboy
    Aussie pension limited to 13 weeks overseas
    Another half baked story ,,, should read ,, Aussie Disability Pension Limited to 13 weeks ..

    How many Aussies on TD who are drawing their day to day normal retirement pensions have been called back to Aus every 13 weeks ??

    The UK have had a similar rule in place as regards claiming in an EU Country , you have to be resident in the UK 26 weeks of the year ,, so I suspect its gonna be less or if anything at all for living in a non EU Country
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    Quote Originally Posted by superman
    The main sources of savings come from lack of demand on NHS, no added benefits, no social costs, etc.
    And the main losses come from the fact that the consumption from ones domestically paid retirement income is spent in a foreign country, so no benefit to the local economy.
    Australia cracked down on this because of people taking the piss. In particular, some Yugoslav and Greek immigrants were spending a few years in Australia, claiming and receiving a lifetime disability pension on dubious (often fraudulent) grounds- then returning to their native domicile to enjoy a fairly luxurious local lifestyle, compliments of the Aussie taxpayer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan B View Post

    As the baby boomers hit retirement age it's only gonna get worse.
    If one has not provided for there retirement by contributing to a superannuation fund throughout there working life the prospect of living on any government pension is bleak.

    The cost of living in Australia is off the wall and pensioners are simply surviving and not living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatboy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by peterpan View Post
    He has the physical capability to sail or crew a yacht but he lives off a Disability pension?

    Fuck him and the boat he sails on.
    Are you saying people with disabilities cant sail?
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    He is on a Power boat
    Turns key, motor goes vroom
    Presses button on anchor windlass and anchor comes up,
    Presses button on Autopilot and it steers a course.
    He can afford an ocean going power boat but still needs to claim the disability pension?
    Sorry, but Fuck him.
    Shoulda boat a sailboat so he can save on gas.

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