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    Name that legend..

    He was a boxer, Dutch I think, that came to Thailand in the 90's and beat the shit out of the Muay Thai champs, and in turn caused a change in Muay Thai training.

    I was chatting to a fella that used to box A.B.A and train fighters, and was telling him, couldn't remember the details though, and he's interested to find out more.

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    Yes that's the fella. Cheers Dave

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    Looking at his wiki profile fight records it seems he only won 3 out of the 13 times that he fought in Thailand, I thought the legend was that he beat allcomers in Thailand and had a major impact, although a Falang beating a Thai at his own sport must have been quite a revelation to them.

    Ramon Dekkers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Dekkers was a great fighter, but the real kickboxing legend that came here and Japan and beat all-comers in the late 70's is an American named Benny "The Jet" Urquidez. The guy is a living legend. I met him in the UK in the 80's when was over doing training seminars. Top bloke.
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    That is very interesting Kmart thanks for the info.

    Urquidez was born in Los Angeles County, California, the son of a wrestling mother and a boxing father, who was born in Granada, Nicaragua and is descended from Basque Spaniards and Blackfoot Amerindians.[8] His sister Lilly Rodriguez was a pioneer in kickboxing for women.
    That's one family you would not fuck with.

    He began competing in 1958, at the age of five, in "peewee" boxing in Los Angeles. This was followed by martial arts instruction at the age of 8, for which his first formal teacher was Bill Ryusaki.[10]. He received his black belt at the age of 14, a feat which was highly unusual during the 1960s.

    in 1974, he began his move away from the non-contact style by entering and winning the World Series of Martial Arts Championship, which was effectively a tough-man contest with few rules. Over the next two decades he fought under various kickboxing organizations (NKL, WPKO, PKA, WKA, AJKBA, Shin-Kakutojutsu Federation, NJPW and MTN) to amass a record of 58 wins with no losses.
    A true legend.

    This was an interesting nugget:

    the Japanese professional wrestler Antonio Inoki, who gained the worldwide fame by fighting Muhammad Ali in the controversial boxer/wrestler mixed-match in the previous year in Japan
    I've never heard about that before.



    Urquidez's official fight record shows that he never fought in Thailand, officially, so Dekker still has the kudos for that at least, bu there's no doubt that Urquidez was the better fighter and real pioneer.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benny_Urquidez

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    Dekkers was one of the first foreigners who was able to come to Thailand and beat a few good fighters on their own turf (including a couple of decisions at Lumpinee, which is amazing considering Thai judges had to pick an outsider against a local)- he took his beatings as well, though.
    There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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    back in 1990 i saw a Dutch compertition team beat the shit out of the thais in the Marine bar walking st, They were class, wonder if he was there?

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    I prefered Frank Dux. And he can do the Dim mak with the bottom brick!

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    Van Dam played him in the film .

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    Damn- Ramon Dekkers just died- he had a heart attack while riding his bike- he was only 43.

    Dutch kickboxer Ramon "The Diamond" Dekkers, 43, suffers heart attack | Bangkok Post: breakingnews

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    ^ was he know to be a steroid user ?

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    ^

    Who knows? It's possible, but even a heavy user wouldn't just drop dead like that though the use of steroids alone- a better guess would be an undiagnosed heart condition that caught up with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe
    a better guess would be an undiagnosed heart condition that caught up with him.
    Would be my guess as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Dekkers was a great fighter, but the real kickboxing legend that came here and Japan and beat all-comers in the late 70's is an American named Benny "The Jet" Urquidez. The guy is a living legend. I met him in the UK in the 80's when was over doing training seminars. Top bloke.
    He fought Jackie Chan in a couple of films and Sammo Hung, Richard Norton as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    ^ was he know to be a steroid user ?
    I doubt it he fought at smaller weights and got bigger as he got older. Not your typical sted head.

    Who knows though.

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