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    Ye Old Work Permit - Is it that big of a deal?

    How strict are the Thais with Work permits and foreigners? I just bought a tasty hamburger, fries, a steak sandwich and some cheese sticks from a farang and his Thai wife at the local market. There was a line of Thais buying his food as well as a dozen or so eating at the tables at his place. I go to chat with the farang and he said no problems. He says he has been at it 7 years with no headaches.

    Being I am a jingoist living in exile from America, I could use some extra cash!

    I am thinking of maybe selling some steak and pasta with my Thai wife at our shop house.

    Any and all feed back welcome!!

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    Normally immigration catch you after someone grasses you up and try to get 30k baht out of you, good luck with your venture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    Normally immigration catch you after someone grasses you up and try to get 30k baht out of you, good luck with your venture.
    Would that be a one time payment or once a year?

    My wife says the average Thai is not aware of work permit rules.

    Also immigration is a day shift deal, so we are going to scab just nights and weekends!!

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    No big deal really, just try it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson View Post
    No big deal really, just try it.
    This guy has been at it for 7 years. I know hordes of farang teachers in Isaan at government schools that are without one, and also several farangs working in companies without documentation.

    I know you are being sarcastic when saying no big deal, but I think the reality is, your sarcasm is in fact, fact. Unless some jealous person that knows you need a work permit makes a call about you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jingoist View Post

    Also immigration is a day shift deal, so we are going to scab just nights and weekends!!
    Plenty of people have been busted "after hours".

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    Pattaya Immigration are not hunting down farangs at random to imprison for work permit offences, generally the farangs are grassed on and immigration have to investigate, it really is that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jingoist
    My wife says the average Thai is not aware of work permit rules.
    yeah, for sure.

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    Not so much of a worry up in the Boonies but in the touristy areas, fuck that.

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    I think they mainly focus on the dodgy bar owners in tourist areas. A little mom and pop pasta burger joint will probably fly under the radar just fine.
    Keep some cash on hand for emergencies anyway.

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    Thanks for all the input!

    So, the team money - 30k baht. One time only, every day, every week or once a year?

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    once a month. maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson View Post
    once a month. maybe.
    Where as 3k a month tax on a work permit, well it was 5 years ago for me.

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    OK, I am going to crunch some numbers and once I know where this headed I will start a New topic - My Under the Radar Business Venture.

    I will not post location nor contact info. I am not looking for free plugs or anything. Plus it would not be under the radar if I went blogging about it on Teak Door!!

    I will give some info on the set up, day to day operations, revenue, expenses and any headaches.

    Again thanks for all the info. Even Sir Wilson's posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    Pattaya Immigration are not hunting down farangs at random to imprison for work permit offences, generally the farangs are grassed on and immigration have to investigate, it really is that simple.
    in other words
    so as long as you keep it sweet with the lady
    if it goes pear-shaped
    watch out.

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    We have been married for almost 10 years. The only thing pear shaped is me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson View Post
    No big deal really, just try it.
    As long as your venture does not piss in someones rice bowl, you are gonna be fine. If you get busted, get your tea money ready and tell the Po Po its your better half's gig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrabow View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson View Post
    No big deal really, just try it.
    As long as your venture does not piss in someones rice bowl, you are gonna be fine. .
    Exactly. Unfortunately pretty much anything can be seen as pissing in someone elses rice bowl, if those people so desire.

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    Just get your wife and friend to do it, if you have doubts, you pay wife's friend 300 baht a day, you could always do the work in the kitchen out of sight you not have any problems.

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    Mate of mine employed a Scando burd in his kitchen and as he was doing a lot better than the Thai place next door he got stuck in to the immigration by them.


    Cost him 150 000bt to get him and her out of the pen.

    As another poster said. Get the wife to do it.
    Do you know what nemesis means?

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    Breathing is illegal for farangs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jingoist View Post

    My wife says the average Thai is not aware of work permit rules.
    Your wife is correct for the most part.
    They're quite oblivious to the circus and maze that are visas, resident visas, wp, banking, driver's licence, etc.

    I'm sure they're believing we can just waltz right in without regard to anything.
    Those who are close [family, friends, associates] and interact everyday, understand how it works.

    That being said, I've known numerous Farang that have successfully operated some sort of business/employment by getting under the radar of this work permit business....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    generally the farangs are grassed on and immigration have to investigate,
    This is probably the main point to remember - Thai police (be they immigration or otherwise) generally work on a reactive basis especially when the higher uppers have been embarrassed by a case of dereliction of duty that has hit the media or brought up by opposition party in Parliament. If a report is filed, then they have to act on it. If you think your business might impinge on another local business, then make sure you are 'in' with a poo yai bigger than your competitor's poo yai. That might cost you the odd bottle of Green Label Johnnie Walker or nothing if your wife's family is connected. She will know (or can find out at the drop of a hat if it's an area not known to her) who the influential people in the area are, and how to deal with them accordingly.

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    If a Thai decides to copy your business, or just doesn't like you, then he'll probably pay to have you raided.

    Personally I'd rather not have that hanging over me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jingoist
    I am thinking of maybe selling some steak and pasta with my Thai wife at our shop house.
    how long will it take you to net 150 K baht selling steak and pasta?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smug Farang Bore
    Mate of mine employed a Scando burd in his kitchen and as he was doing a lot better than the Thai place next door he got stuck in to the immigration by them. Cost him 150 000bt to get him and her out of the pen.

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