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    Things that are the final nail in the coffin of popular music in the last 10yrs

    It's not my age, as I've always enjoyed popular music, but a few years back MTV was bearable and they showed us a few real bands that played instruments and could play guitar too. Where are these 'rock' bands now?

    So here's a top ten of things that fucked up popular music as we knew it...

    1. Pop Idol / X-Factor / __________(insert country)'s Got Talent. ie. Simon Cowell, for obvious reasons. Music stores in the UK now only stock singles that are from this stable of talentless artistes that can neither sing or have any personality. Within a year they are struggling for 'fame' on reality TV shows.

    2. The Black Eyed Peas. Pre-9/11 they were an average regular hiphop band, with a couple of decent rappers. Then 9/11 happened and their pathetic 'anthem' ''Where is the love'' was taken to everyones hearts. Then they recruited Fergie, and released rubbish such as 'My Humps' and 'Lets get retarded'. The main member, the self-smug Will I.am has taken this hype to heart and thinks he's some kind of superstar music mogul.

    3. Auto tune.
    A music program that auto-tunes a voice to sound pitch perfect over any track, regardless of how good it is. Here at TD we could club together and release a song for Christmas, and using this abombnation of a program, would sound totally pro. The Cheryl Coles and Katy Perrys of this world are mistakenly seen as rock stars by todays youth due to this.

    4. British Rap ''music'' was never a strong point, then it just got really bad with many young artistes of this genre rapping at 'double speed' over an already speeded up backing. On top of that they talk about guns and killing people. This genre should have bombed big time, but our fickle public think it's something great. And you can't even dance to it. Also known as 'grime' music or 'urban', the faster the fans of these monsters grow up, the better.

    5. The likes of Beyonce playing Glastonbury. I've nothing against Beyonce, she's a good singer who can actually sing live without autotune. But she sure didn't belong at a so-called rock festival that started with 50 hippies in a Somerset field with a guitar and some face paint.

    6. Lady Gaga. Auto tune and over production, and general over-exposure, she should realise that she isn't actually that good, just all costumes and dancing. She can't sing live, nor is she attractive, it's all a well-hyped machine that's obviously working. In mid-2009 she failed to sell out the 2000 capacity Paris Olympiahalle (I was in Paris at the time) then three months later she was hugely massive there.



    That's my rant over. I've obviously missed many so add yours...and give some of your views on this.

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    death metal managed to fade away

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    Pat, no offence to yerself, but you lot were the harbinger of death of proper music.
    Music that once was handmade, individual and quirky was mixed with machines and 'puterised. Blandland.
    Are you old enough to remember a time when you could go to some grubby place, and actually watch people play?
    I like some electronically mixed music too, but it just isn't the same, and my interest in music waned accoringly.
    probes Aliens

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Pat, no offence to yerself, but you lot were the harbinger of death of proper music.
    I've never played pop music, and neither, God forbid, anything mentioned above.

    I can understand the notion that DJs ruined real music but when I started the market was a lot different.

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    Cher is the queen of auto tune.

    Prior to auto tune, if a singer couldn't hold a note or couldn't even find the right note, SHE would warble all over the place because one note out of the dozen would probably be the right one. Mariah Carey is a prime example.

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    Real music died a long time ago (about 1985 for me)


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    The musoes will always say that DJs spoilt the music scene. Not true.

    The purveyors of the trash pop mentioned in the OP are the new generation of laptop DJs who aren't DJs at all, but people just selecting songs they personally like. The DJ laptop program puts it altogether for you, making it sound seamless.

    Real DJs know this was the death of the 'skill' of DJing: filling a dancefloor, alternating genres for all, skilful beat mixing, not chatting, and keeping a low profile.

    DJs have been blown up into 'stars' and its naff, sad and a damn shame.

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    I download the JJJ hottest 100 each year and sift through them - normally I can find 8-20 songs I think are good - http://ca.isohunt.com/download/37168...st+100.torrent

    so far

    Lana Del Rey - Video Games
    Boy And Bear - Feeding Line
    Nero - Promises
    Foo Fighters - Arlandria
    Example - Changed The Way You Kissed Me

    I also download - Indie Rock Playlist - it usually appears on the torrents for each month - and I sift through them and find some stuff I like - http://ca.isohunt.com/download/37811...aylist.torrent




    the marketing droids have wet dreams over controlling what people like - but there is no need to act out their fantasies for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bung View Post
    Real music died a long time ago (about 1985 for me)

    Popular Western music lost me approximately mid-70ish...

    Most of it turned homogenously vacant of any such originality or soul.

    Largely, it continues that way today.

    Cookie-cutter crap with little connections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Pat
    It's not my age
    yes, it is

    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Pat
    the new generation of laptop DJs who aren't DJs at all
    old man whingeing

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    has anyone watched some of those hot little Korean pop videos?

    the music is terrible, of course, but who cares

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    much better

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    Pop musics demise coincided with the popularity of TV.

    Listening to shit on the tranny was much better than watching shit on the tele.

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    Quote Originally Posted by withnallstoke
    Listening to shit on the tranny was much better than watching shit on the tele.
    too many people now rate the video clip before the music - sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by withnallstoke
    Listening to shit on the tranny was much better than watching shit on the tele.
    too many people now rate the video clip before the music - sad

    they are part and parcel now

    my daughter's ex-boyfriend is a music video director and has a lot of fun, and money!

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    We used to watch this program on Friday nights at this point in my life I decided I was going to be DJ, and also I could play any brass instrument I played with a couple of soul bands

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    Awesome, has justifiable claims to being the greatest live set ever put down in a British tv studio. What is there not to like. Otis on top of his form, Eric and Chris holding there own, top band, go go dancers to die for (including Sandy Sargeant) and the cream of London mod society.

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    One of my favorites from Otis


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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Pat
    Lady Gaga
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    She can't sing live
    But she does sing live and I understood that she does have quite a strong voice. Has autotune algorithm been developed that allows it to be used for live performance and allow natural sounding frequency changes?

    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Pat
    In mid-2009 she failed to sell out the 2000 capacity Paris Olympiahalle (I was in Paris at the time)
    Is some cause and effect being implied? You were DJing at a nearby venue and her concert failed to sell out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post

    Henry's talking to you, Pat - and those like you.

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    Stop offending me, I'm getting really offended

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