Thread: Things that are the final nail in the coffin of popular music in the last 10yrs

It's not my age, as I've always enjoyed popular music, but a few years back MTV was bearable and they showed us a few real bands that played instruments and could play guitar too. Where are these 'rock' bands now?

So here's a top ten of things that fucked up popular music as we knew it...

1. Pop Idol / X-Factor / __________(insert country)'s Got Talent. ie. Simon Cowell, for obvious reasons. Music stores in the UK now only stock singles that are from this stable of talentless artistes that can neither sing or have any personality. Within a year they are struggling for 'fame' on reality TV shows.

2. The Black Eyed Peas. Pre-9/11 they were an average regular hiphop band, with a couple of decent rappers. Then 9/11 happened and their pathetic 'anthem' ''Where is the love'' was taken to everyones hearts. Then they recruited Fergie, and released rubbish such as 'My Humps' and 'Lets get retarded'. The main member, the self-smug Will I.am has taken this hype to heart and thinks he's some kind of superstar music mogul.

3. Auto tune. A music program that auto-tunes a voice to sound pitch perfect over any track, regardless of how good it is. Here at TD we could club together and release a song for Christmas, and using this abombnation of a program, would sound totally pro. The Cheryl Coles and Katy Perrys of this world are mistakenly seen as rock stars by todays youth due to this.

4. British Rap ''music'' was never a strong point, then it just got really bad with many young artistes of this genre rapping at 'double speed' over an already speeded up backing. On top of that they talk about guns and killing people. This genre should have bombed big time, but our fickle public think it's something great. And you can't even dance to it. Also known as 'grime' music or 'urban', the faster the fans of these monsters grow up, the better.

5. The likes of Beyonce playing Glastonbury. I've nothing against Beyonce, she's a good singer who can actually sing live without autotune. But she sure didn't belong at a so-called rock festival that started with 50 hippies in a Somerset field with a guitar and some face paint.

6. Lady Gaga. Auto tune and over production, and general over-exposure, she should realise that she isn't actually that good, just all costumes and dancing. She can't sing live, nor is she attractive, it's all a well-hyped machine that's obviously working. In mid-2009 she failed to sell out the 2000 capacity Paris Olympiahalle (I was in Paris at the time) then three months later she was hugely massive there.



That's my rant over. I've obviously missed many so add yours...and give some of your views on this.

death metal managed to fade away

Pat, no offence to yerself, but you lot were the harbinger of death of proper music.
Music that once was handmade, individual and quirky was mixed with machines and 'puterised. Blandland.
Are you old enough to remember a time when you could go to some grubby place, and actually watch people play?
I like some electronically mixed music too, but it just isn't the same, and my interest in music waned accoringly.

Originally Posted by sabang

Pat, no offence to yerself, but you lot were the harbinger of death of proper music.

I've never played pop music, and neither, God forbid, anything mentioned above.

I can understand the notion that DJs ruined real music but when I started the market was a lot different.

Cher is the queen of auto tune.

Prior to auto tune, if a singer couldn't hold a note or couldn't even find the right note, SHE would warble all over the place because one note out of the dozen would probably be the right one. Mariah Carey is a prime example.

Real music died a long time ago (about 1985 for me)

The musoes will always say that DJs spoilt the music scene. Not true.

The purveyors of the trash pop mentioned in the OP are the new generation of laptop DJs who aren't DJs at all, but people just selecting songs they personally like. The DJ laptop program puts it altogether for you, making it sound seamless.

Real DJs know this was the death of the 'skill' of DJing: filling a dancefloor, alternating genres for all, skilful beat mixing, not chatting, and keeping a low profile.

DJs have been blown up into 'stars' and its naff, sad and a damn shame.

Originally Posted by DJ Pat

It's not my age

yes, it is

Originally Posted by DJ Pat

the new generation of laptop DJs who aren't DJs at all

old man whingeing

has anyone watched some of those hot little Korean pop videos?

the music is terrible, of course, but who cares

much better

Pop musics demise coincided with the popularity of TV.

Listening to shit on the tranny was much better than watching shit on the tele.

Originally Posted by withnallstoke

Listening to shit on the tranny was much better than watching shit on the tele.

too many people now rate the video clip before the music - sad

Originally Posted by baldrick

Originally Posted by withnallstoke

Listening to shit on the tranny was much better than watching shit on the tele.

too many people now rate the video clip before the music - sad

they are part and parcel now

my daughter's ex-boyfriend is a music video director and has a lot of fun, and money!

We used to watch this program on Friday nights at this point in my life I decided I was going to be DJ, and also I could play any brass instrument I played with a couple of soul bands

Awesome, has justifiable claims to being the greatest live set ever put down in a British tv studio. What is there not to like. Otis on top of his form, Eric and Chris holding there own, top band, go go dancers to die for (including Sandy Sargeant) and the cream of London mod society.

One of my favorites from Otis

Originally Posted by DJ Pat

Lady Gaga

Originally Posted by DJ Pat

She can't sing live

But she does sing live and I understood that she does have quite a strong voice. Has autotune algorithm been developed that allows it to be used for live performance and allow natural sounding frequency changes?

Originally Posted by DJ Pat

In mid-2009 she failed to sell out the 2000 capacity Paris Olympiahalle (I was in Paris at the time)

Is some cause and effect being implied? You were DJing at a nearby venue and her concert failed to sell out?

Originally Posted by kmart

Henry's talking to you, Pat - and those like you.

Stop offending me, I'm getting really offended