Thread: Don't drink and drive

Originally Posted by sabai sabai

There's one last thing niggling me, and that's the number plate off the other motocy. What if I get the Missus to drop it off outside the police station ?

keep it, hang it in the shed as a reminder


thanks for the pics, can we have an update? hows the knee? hows the buffalo?


1000 bahts for that?!?!!??!!?!!?!? ffs!!!!

Originally Posted by sunsetter

thanks for the pics

Looking at those legs it reminded me of the girl Nedwalk was sitting with tonight.

S.S, you haven't done a runner again and come to Pattaya without telling us?

It was your fault S.S,

F'kin unbelievable mocy idiot!

Originally Posted by ENT

F'kin unbelievable mocy idiot!

Seems as if he had the right of way, yes....?

The motocy? No.

He crossed a white give way line at the intersection while the car was on it.
The motocy didn't even attempt to slow down or give way.

Assuming that the motocy driver was American, he automatically veered right instead of left, to stay in his own left hand lane.

He was damned lucky that another vehicle was not heading at him from the opposite direction at the same time.

Originally Posted by sunsetter

thanks for the pics, can we have an update? hows the knee? hows the buffalo?

given he's in jail, i dont we'll get one.

Originally Posted by ENT

He crossed a white give way line at the intersection while the car was on it.
The motocy didn't even attempt to slow down or give way.

I'm still trying to figure out if you are a troll or if you are truly demented.

The bike was in his lane until he was trying to avoid the car pulling out when it was not safe.

I don't know what planet you're from, but a white give way line across your lane indicates that crossing traffic has the right of way.
So, what does that white line mean to you?
Go faster?

Look at the vid again, and you'll clearly see traffic slow down at the intersection and the give way line.
The motocy didn't even slow, let alone give way.

The car had already moved safely into the intersection seconds before being hit turning into the right lane head on.
The motocy left his own lane and crossed into the opposite lane to hit the car.

There was plenty of room for him on the left.

Seems the Sepo was new to bikes as he wobbles to frk as he looks in the rear view mirrors about 4 seconds before hitting the car

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

have a read

There is plenty of eevidence to support the truth of alternative medicine. Sadly there will always be a few idiots out there who will swallow whatever the corporate machine tells then. There are even doctors out there who claim honey is bad for you!

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

There is plenty of eevidence to support the truth of alternative medicine.

No, there is not. There is anecdotal evidence, there is corporate advertising and there is wishful thinking, or lack of critical thinking.

look up the word placebo.

^Swilly talks out of the back of his neck.

Physio-therapy, massage and acupressure are now normal forms of on-field emergency treatment for the All Blacks, combined with a freezing linament and cold compress.
These methods give instant relief for traumatic injury, as long as there are no torn ligaments and broken bones.

Sports medicine is now also a university degree course.
Using pressure points as indicated in acupressure charts is part of the course, as the method helps release seized muscle complexes by blocking one set of nerve impulses and stimulating the appropriate nerve "triggers" to allow proper movement.

If you watched the RWC being played out in NZ last year, you could see the team physios using some of these techniques.
There are also more drug related deaths through doctors' over-prescription of approved medicines than any other form of drug use, so the GPs often don't get it anywhere near right.

I've pointed out before that I avoid conventional medicine as far as I can, sticking to herbal and more natural healing methods.
One great pain killer that I use is willow, tips or inner bark.
This is the original source of the chemically named Aspirin.

Just because the all blacks use it does not make Acupunture or acupressure any more or less correct. Your entire argument is based on a Fallacy.

All sports teams use these methods now, not just the All Blacks.

Their physiotherapists are now being increasingly trained at university in these methods.

If anyone want's more reference to the high level of training now available at uni in sports medicine.

Google, " sports medicine university" and you'll find reference to many leading accredited universities offering these degree papers.

Don't ever expect the above monkey brain Swilly to understand, he hasn't evolved yet.

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

look up the word placebo.

The placebo effect certainly is an interesting question and begs the question regarding the powers of mind over matter which the empirical scientists have yet to really answer.
The critical thinking empirical scientist will likely admit to the existance of things which exist beyond his means of detection and that his or her scope of observations are not absolute.

Originally Posted by ENT

Don't ever expect the above monkey brain Swilly to understand, he hasn't evolved yet.

ad hominen

Originally Posted by ENT

Google, " sports medicine university" and you'll find reference to many leading accredited universities offering these degree papers.

changing the goal posts from Chinese Medicine to Sports Medicine, good try but they are different things Ent.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

The critical thinking empirical scientist will likely admit to the existance of things which exist beyond his means of detection and that his or her scope of observations are not absolute.

Fluff that does not go towards providing any evidence that acupunture or acupressure have any scientific basis.

^ alternative medicine includes herbal remedies which have been proven to work well

in fact, many drug companies merely copy the effective part of the herb and manufacture their drugs

Aspirin is an example, as is Quinine etc etc

Originally Posted by ENT

I've pointed out before that I avoid conventional medicine as far as I can, sticking to herbal and more natural healing methods.

As I mentioned, herbal remedies are well proven

things like Acupuncture, Homeopathy are more difficult to prove as effective

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

Fluff that does not go towards providing any evidence that acupunture or acupressure have any scientific basis.

Well you certainly have a right to your opinion.
For myself I can say I've experienced numerous acupuncture treatments and can say conclusively that it works for me.

well done Earl

unfortunately that is not scientific proof, but that hardly matters if it works

I go with Chiropracting, that works for me but there is no real proof by scientific study

the history of Acupuncture is interesting, as mentioned in above posts

University of Chicago
Department of Medicine

Acupuncture theories today are based on extensive laboratory research, and have become widely known and accepted. In addition, controlled studies have shown evidence of the effectiveness of acupuncture for certain conditions. At present in the United States, about 3,500 physicians and 11,000 to 12,000 non-physician acupuncturists use this medical art. About 40 acupuncture schools train non-physicians and about 500 to 600 physicians, according to the American Academy of Medical Acupuncture.

Acupuncture - The University of Chicago Medicine

Originally Posted by DrAndy

well done Earl

unfortunately that is not scientific proof, but that hardly matters if it works

I go with Chiropracting, that works for me but there is no real proof by scientific study

the history of Acupuncture is interesting, as mentioned in above posts

And this shows how empirical science has significant shortcomings concerning the more subtle eneergies of the human body and many other aspects of nature both plant and animal.
The real tragedy is how so many sheeple so willingly fall lockstep into formation with western medical science which in so many cases is in servitude to financial interests and not human interest.

I agree that medical science has a lot of shortcomings

hopefully it is progressing, as it has done in the past

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

The bike was in his lane until he was trying to avoid the car pulling out when it was not safe.

Actually I think the bike was at least 50% at fault. The bike was supposed to give way at that junction and from the video looks like he should have seen the car pulling out within plenty of time to stop. The bike made no attempt to stop or slow down although the car was already half way out and had right of way.The car driver is only at fault in that he should have noticed the idiot on the bike had made no attempt to slow down or give way and not moved further into his path.

Chinese acupuncture is based upon meridans and qi and good and bad air.

And yes, Ent, you did mention acupressure, which is based upon acupuncture and all of that is under the umbrella of TCM.

No such thing has been shown to exist.