Cricket scores around the world

**hallelujah** · 22-06-2015, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Bruce Bayliss

Originally Posted by hallelujah

And to gripe at Hadlee?

Hadlee never sledged...he hardly ever spoke to batsmen he was bowling to.

Which was my point....

**Wally Dorian Raffles** · 23-06-2015, 04:22 AM

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles

Test cricket: gone with the Windies

Apparently Windes decline coincides with the rise in big money in North American Basketball. Many West Indians saw more money there than cricket.

I have heard that theory - and also heard that the number of basketball players from the region suggest that isn't necessarily true..

Andy Roberts says they are just lazy Andy Roberts: 'Most West Indies fast bowlers are afraid of hard work' | Cricket | ESPN Cricinfo

**Wally Dorian Raffles** · 23-06-2015, 04:45 AM

Warnie!

Shane Warne: women don't believe it's me on Tinder | smh.com.au

**Wally Dorian Raffles** · 23-06-2015, 04:51 AM

Warne denies plastic surgery!

Shane Warne denies ex-girlfriend Elizabeth Hurley was behind image overhaul | Daily Mail Online

**Bobcock** · 23-06-2015, 07:46 AM

"Midnight or one o'clock in the morning, me and a lot of my mates are sitting around the bar after a long day playing, and everyone was talking about these different apps, Grindr, Tinder," he said.

I see they talked about Grindr first....... nothing more need be said, he says it all.....

Think I'd rather have someone afraid of snakes in my team.....

**panama hat** · 23-06-2015, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by hallelujah

This would have made sense had you used "you're" and joined us in the language that you claim to speak.

Oh dear . . . just the correct response in a cricket thread to show your superiority in all things cricket . . . no to mention EVERYTHING else!!!!!

Aussies are not the best winners nor losers - simple.

**harrybarracuda** · 23-06-2015, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Bobcock

"Midnight or one o'clock in the morning, me and a lot of my mates are sitting around the bar after a long day playing, and everyone was talking about these different apps, Grindr, Tinder," he said.

I see they talked about Grindr first....... nothing more need be said, he says it all.....

Think I'd rather have someone afraid of snakes in my team.....

**chassamui** · 24-06-2015, 02:09 PM

Thoroughly enjoyed watching the T20 from Manchester last night. Joe Root and Kane Williamson were worth the admission. Two fine batsmen at any level, but here just scoring for fun.
I thought NZ were the better side in the field for the most part and Englands field placings and poor first 10 overs would see the Kiwis home. Englands young bowlers did the job in the end. Promising for the future. Still lacking a 1st class spinner though.
Now for the true game of cricket. Tests are special and none more so than the ashes.

**Bruce Bayliss** · 26-06-2015, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by panama hat

Aussies are not the best winners nor losers - simple.

No...but they are the best to beat

Originally Posted by Bobcock

Think I'd rather have someone afraid of snakes in my team.....

They guys emotional age is 11...but as a cricketer he is a PhD

**Wally Dorian Raffles** · 26-06-2015, 05:15 AM

ACA president Greg Dyer concerned debut of day-night cricket Test being rushed | smh.com.au

The president of the Australian Cricketers' Association Greg Dyer says it is not only New Zealand players who have had misgivings about featuring in the first day-night Test this summer, with Australian players also having doubts amid a belief it is being rushed in too hastily.

Confirmation of the day-night Test between Australia and New Zealand, likely to be held in Adelaide, is imminent - there are plans for it to be announced next week - but while Cricket Australia are eager to pioneer the concept and widen the audience of the five-day game, it has come with opposition from players

**Bruce Bayliss** · 27-06-2015, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles

Confirmation of the day-night Test between Australia and New Zealand, likely to be held in Adelaide, is imminent

I would have though that as a player playing a day nighter in Adelaide would be quite sensible...it can fair cook during the day there

**Wally Dorian Raffles** · 01-07-2015, 04:04 AM

Mitchell Starc leads Australian criticism of day-night Test and use of pink ball

Posted yesterday at 5:34pm

Photo: Mitchell Starc is uneasy about the introduction of day-night Test cricket and the pink ball. (Getty Images: Cameron Spencer)
Related Story: Adelaide Oval to host first day-night Test in November

The Australian fast bowling cartel is not happy.
It has nothing to do with the Ashes, rather Cricket Australia (CA) pushing ahead with the inaugural day-night Test.

There has long been murmurings about player dissent regarding the Adelaide Oval fixture against New Zealand.
But Mitchell Starc has become the first to make a pointed public protest, saying pink balls are a poor imitation of the red Kookaburras and near impossible to see from the boundary.

"We don't want a ball that's not going to swing," said Starc, who featured in the most recent day-night Sheffield Shield round.
"It goes soft pretty quickly ... it definitely reacts very, very differently to the red ball.

It goes soft pretty quickly ... it definitely reacts very, very differently to the red ball. I couldn't see the thing at night on the boundary. I couldn't see the ball.

Mitchell Starc

"Gurinder (Sandhu) swung it a little bit when it was brand new, but not for many overs.

"I don't know whether it's the leather or the lacquer - we didn't see much reverse-swing at all.

"I'm yet to be convinced. I can understand why it's happening ... I guess time will tell to see whether it works or not."

A candid Starc did not stop there.

"I couldn't see the thing at night on the boundary. I couldn't see the ball," he said.

"So I'm not sure how the crowd are going to see it."

Starc's comments came as CA chief James Sutherland expressed confidence the ball would be Test-match quality.

The fixture will proceed regardless, but the left-armer's honesty is a blow to CA's drive to boost attendances and TV ratings.

The 25-year-old also aired reservations about the fact his bosses were tinkering with a facet of the sport that had been unchanged for almost 140 years.

"Whether you have to start a whole new set of stats for the pink ball, as you do with the red and white ball, I guess it throws up a huge number of questions and theories about where the game is going," he said.

"(Colourblind) Chris Rogers ... he's not the only player out there who is going to be affected by seeing the ball."

Johnson wants tradition preserved

Mitchell Johnson was more reticent, but it was not hard to gauge his feelings.

"I love the tradition of Test cricket ... tradition in the game is very important," Johnson said.

The way Josh Hazlewood described the pink ball, it sounded more like an injury setback than innovation.

"We've got to deal with it as best we can," Hazlewood said.
Test stars have been guaranteed a Shield game with the pink pill, but Shane Watson made a valid observation regarding the proposed schedule.

"What I've heard is after the Bangladesh tour there's three days at home before they've put in a day-night Shield game," he said.

"The preparation is certainly not going to be ideal."

It was not all negative feedback from the 17-man squad in England, with future captain Steve Smith proving the most diplomatic.

"It's pretty exciting that it's going to be going ahead. Hopefully it'll bring in the crowds," Smith said.

"It's going to be good to try something a little bit different."
AAP

**Wally Dorian Raffles** · 01-07-2015, 04:11 AM

It sounds like they have really fast tracked this day/night test thing. The ball is still a problem. I heard somebody say that pink is just the wrong color - a yellow/green ball is the most easily visible color in the light spectrum - and what about dew on the outfield at night? - sounds like if you win the toss you will win the test if these problems are not sorted..

**bobo746** · 01-07-2015, 06:47 AM

Night tests good for TV ratings.
It doesen't matter we can beat the poms in the dark.

**Bobcock** · 01-07-2015, 07:57 AM

Like you have 1 out of the last 4 series'........

**bobo746** · 01-07-2015, 08:35 AM

Lets not worry about the past.
Our time is now.
But there has been 320 games played
Australia 128 England 103 Drawn 89

**panama hat** · 01-07-2015, 09:07 AM

double post

**panama hat** · 01-07-2015, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles

and what about dew on the outfield at night?

Hadn't thought of that - but conditions are different in the a.m. to the rest of the day as well

**Wally Dorian Raffles** · 02-07-2015, 09:25 AM

^ Hi Panama!!
Day/Night tests will be a great money spinner. There will be large crowds at night at Adelaide Oval which will be a great atmosphere - But yes, my biggest concern is the lop-sidedness that may happen if batting at night is just a lot harder to do.

Gaawd I wish the ashes would hurry up .... I'm suffering test cricket withdrawals!

**good2bhappy** · 15-08-2015, 12:59 PM

looking interesting at Galle

**Wally Dorian Raffles** · 01-09-2015, 04:53 AM

The poms golden summer continues with the boys and girls both winning T20 matches over night. Fakebeard starred for the poms again. Was he man of the series in the ashes ? If not , who was?

**Bobcock** · 01-09-2015, 07:44 AM

Rooooooooooot

**Wally Dorian Raffles** · 07-09-2015, 02:27 PM

Australian all-rounders to have averaged at least with 35 with the bat (minimum 1000 runs) and under 35 with the ball (minimum 50 wickets) in Tests:
Warwick Armstrong (Jan 1902 to Aug 1921): 50m, 2863r at 38.69, 87w at 33.6.
Jack Gregory (Dec 1920 to Dec 1928): 24m, 1146r at 36.97, 85w at 31.15.
Charles Kelleway (Dec 1910 to Dec 1928): 26m, 1422r at 37.42, 52w at 32.37.
Keith Miller (Mar 1946 to Oct 1956): 55m, 2958r at 36.97, 170w at 22.98.
Shane Watson (Jan 2005 to Jul 2015): 59m, 3731r at 35.2, 75w at 33.68.
Some overseas all-rounders who met that criteria, of above 35 with bat and below 35 with ball:
Gary Sobers (WI - Mar 1954 to Apr 1974): 93m, 8032r at 57.78, 235w at 34.04.
Tony Greig (Eng - Jun 1972 to Aug 1977): 58m, 3599r at 40.44, 141w at 32.21.
Imran Khan (Pak - Jun 1971 to Jan 1992): 88m, 3807r at 37.69, 362w at 22.81.
Jacques Kallis (SAf - Dec 1995 to Dec 2013): 166m, 13,289r at 55.37, 292w at 32.65.
Some overseas all-rounders who failed to meet that criteria, of above 35 with bat and below 35 with ball:
Frank Worrell (WI - Feb 1948 to Aug 1963): 51m, 3860r at 49.49, 69w at 38.72.
Ian Botham (Eng - Jul 1977 to Jun 1992): 102m, 5200r at 33.55, 383w at 28.4.
Kapil Dev (Ind - Oct 1978 to Mar 1994): 131m, 5248r at 31.05, 434w at 29.65.
Ravi Shastri (Ind - Feb 1981 to Dec 1992): 80m, 3830r at 35.79, 151w at 40.96.
Andrew Flintoff (Eng - Jul 1998 to Aug 2009): 79m, 3845r at 31.78, 226w at 32.79.

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**Bobcock** · 07-09-2015, 03:25 PM

Hahahaha.... they berated him for years,.... loved it when he was left out....

Now he's God's own hero.....

You hated him Wally, stop pretending otherwise.....

**Wally Dorian Raffles** · 07-09-2015, 04:39 PM

I never hated him. He was just frustrating - then annoying to watch over his career. Early in his career he would look as though he was going to be the next big thing - then got injured - came back after injury and just when you thought he was going to do something g great again he would get injured again. That cycle repeated and the pressure built on him so much to produce the goods that he started choking every time he was in his 80's & 90's - or just after he reached 50. In the end he was his worst own enemy as the pressure of his many critics just seemed to get to him..

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