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    I'n not sure that's the rule in question as it refers to overthrows/wilful act of a fielder rather than what happened (i.e. the unwitting act of a batsman affecting the fielding side).

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    All a bit irrelevant anyways, can't go back to replay it and four from two would've been achievable anyways.

    Still sucks to lose like that mind.

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    the englishers have no shame

    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    four from two would've been achievable anyways.
    stokes would not have been on strike

    However, it has since emerged that under Law 19.8, extra runs are only awarded if the batsmen have crossed when the ball is thrown, which was not the case on Sunday.

    It means that England should only have received five runs off the delivery, leaving it with four to win off two balls.

    Crucially, it also would have seen number 10 Rashid on strike for the next ball, rather than the in-form Stokes.

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    ^ you whinny Aussie bastard! All the Aussies I know were saying to me how they hoped England slaughtered NZ in the final... Aussies really take sport whining to another level; Brett Lee and others trying to stick their noses in - you lost, get over it and prepare to get slaughtered during the ashes. At least NZ take an unfortunate defeat with some dignity!

    It's a strange area where the rules seem pretty unclear because Stokes wasn't running for overthrows at any point - his running was over, and he didn't attempt another run after the incident, the ball ran away for 4. Personally, I don't see how the law above can be interpreted as by that salty Convict ex-umpire. Maybe there just isn't a clear rule in place for such an incident?

    NZ were very unlucky, but ultimately, the match was in their hands to clearly win it.

    I wouldn't've been against the match being given as a draw at the time and cup shared, but that boundary count back rule was in place, just not one that many (any?) of us had thought about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    stokes would not have been on strike
    That turncoat ginga muthafucka shouldn't have even been playing for England!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    That turncoat ginga muthafucka shouldn't have even been playing for England!!
    How good would the NZ team be with Stokes in it?

    &, he likes playing against NZ:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    How good would the NZ team be with Stokes in it?
    Pretty bloody handy would be my guess!

    Him being injected into the middle order would be a massive boon, not too mention a pretty handy bowling option also (though probably a bit 'samey' given the rest of the attack).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    All the Aussies I know were saying to me how they hoped England slaughtered NZ in the final.
    nope - obviously not real ockers

    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    NZ were very unlucky, but ultimately, the match was in their hands to clearly win it.
    yes - with 20 overs to go and more than a run a ball needed , the kiwis should have romped it in - they fcuked themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    nope - obviously not real ockers



    yes - with 20 overs to go and more than a run a ball needed , the kiwis should have romped it in - they fcuked themselves
    The guy stepping on the rope when he could have caught Stokes was an error - the match could have been won there.

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    ^True. In most close sporting events there's normally a few moments to reflect on that could've swung the game one way or the other. And that was one of them.

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    Yeah it is all could've, should've, would've's at this point but the main one is didn't.

    Some nice gallows humor from Neesham also:

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    It's funny listening to all the Indians and Australians whining like stuck pigs.

    Suck it up, losers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    It's a strange area where the rules seem pretty unclear because Stokes wasn't running for overthrows at any point - his running was over, and he didn't attempt another run after the incident, the ball ran away for 4. Personally, I don't see how the law above can be interpreted as by that salty Convict ex-umpire. Maybe there just isn't a clear rule in place for such an incident?
    Just one of those things, like hitting the top of the net and it dropping over at tennis. Rules is rules, like the 26-17 which the Kiwis will understand betterYou can only apologise.

    Only the bitter Aussies see it as the Bat of God


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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    yes - with 20 overs to go and more than a run a ball needed , the kiwis should have romped it in - they fcuked themselves
    You could make up 20 scenarios that could have changed the game for NZ. One being if you shit Aussie cnuts would have beaten England in the first place

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    ^Anyway that's yesterday's fish 'n chips wrapping as the old saying goes.

    The Poms can now turn their attention to the Rugby WC and they're well prepared to win that too with an Aussie coach and a star Kiwi in the team to save them

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    Aussies are taking this worse than Kiwis


    An Australian bookmaker is refunding punters who backed the Black Caps to win the Cricket World Cup final, but the New Zealand TAB here will not be following suit.
    Sportsbet labelled the method in which England was determined to be the winner of the tournament an "absolute disgrace", according to news agency AAP. It has refunded 11,458 people who waged a total of $426,223 on New Zealand to win the final or the tournament outright.

    Sportsbet spokesman Rich Hummerston said they could not take money from customers who had bet on New Zealand to win as the Kiwis had effectively not been beaten, AAP reported.

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    ^Errrrrr, you do realise the decision to refund by Sportsbet would have come from head office in the UK right?.

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    Brad Shields has not played well for England yet, and the WC is wide open. I would've given the Aussies a chance, but without the Christian lad at 15 they will struggle, imho.

    But, what do I know, I thought Australia would win the cricket WC...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx View Post
    ^Errrrrr, you do realise the decision to refund by Sportsbet would have come from head office in the UK right?.
    Why would they do that when their HQ is in Melbourne?

    Sportsbet.com.au, also known as Sportsbet, is an Australian online bookmaker, and as of October 2012, was Australia's biggest corporate bookmaker. Sportsbet was established in May 1993, and was Australia's first licensed bookmaker. Wikipedia

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    Poor old Ant, it's just one thing on top of another.



    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ecord-steepest

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    England are only 20-1 to whitewash the Ashes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    England are only 20-1 to whitewash the Ashes
    For good reason...

    What odds are they to be whitewashed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Why would they do that when their HQ is in Melbourne?
    Because they're owned by Paddy Power / Betfair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx View Post
    Because they're owned by Paddy Power / Betfair.
    I don't see Paddy Power offerimg the same

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