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    They should have any appeal launched after the tournament...

    Seriously though this hasn't done Australia or Novak any good. Will he be allowed to compete anywhere this year after his admissions this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Visa cancelled. But apparently he can appeal....
    Let's hope he does not get the same judge as last time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    Let's hope he does not get the same judge as last time.
    CNN saying the judge has likely been kept in the loop.

    But, as I understand it, Minister has used his personal authority, and that will be hard to challenge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    But, as I understand it, Minister has used his personal authority, and that will be hard to challenge.
    I believe a ministerial decision is final and shouldn't, under normal circumstances, be appealed.

    But . . . his lawyers will appeal - see how that goes.

    Jerkovic has a lot to lose as this means he can't get his grand slam, will have difficulty entering other countries etc etc . . .

    Actions have consequences . . . fuck him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Actions have consequences . . . fuck him.
    It really does boil down to that. But with his millions and minions for lawyers he can fart around with the system a bit longer it seems.

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    Djokovic to meet with immigration officials on Saturday

    Novak Djokovic been asked to attend an interview tomorrow with immigration officials.
    Home affairs officials are currently speaking with the tennis star’s lawyers.
    He will not be held in detention ahead of the interview.

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    A directions hearing will be conducted this evening

    It will be with the Federal Circuit Court.

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    Djokovic's hearing will be with Judge Anthony Kelly

    Yes, that's the same judge who presided over his first court appearance.

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    ^thanks for that, d48.

    I've just watched a DW news clip re: this. In one of the comments, it said:

    Is this a best of 3 or best of 5 game? Lol!

    I do hope that he's deported. Should be one rule for everyone, not something else for the rich & famous.

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    Djokovic's lawyers request timeline for proceedings

    Mr Wood says he understands that the Government is not proposing to re-detain Novak tonight.
    He says the interview between Novak and Govt is to take place at 8am tomorrow.


    He says they are seeking an order that would facilitate Novak and his lawyers being able to get together to prepare for a future hearing.
    “If your honour might make an order or perhaps the minister might make an undertaking … that my client might be permitted to be located with his legal team [tomorrow]” and that Novak can stay at his present residential address tonight and Saturday night."

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
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    A directions hearing will be conducted this evening

    It will be with the Federal Circuit Court.

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    Djokovic's hearing will be with Judge Anthony Kelly
    Live on YouTube.


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    He may be a fighter who doesn’t know when to throw in the towel, but the moment has come for Novak Djokovic to halt his offensive to play in the Australian Open and end the circus he has helped to create.
    Confirmation that Australia’s Immigration Minister Alex Hawke had cancelled the travel visa for the world No.1 has been inevitable for the past few days, after he was successful in his appeal against his visa being revoked by border patrol at Melbourne airport last week.
    If Hawke was going to allow the defending Australian Open champion to stay, he would have made that decision at the start of this week, yet he has delayed his call until late on Friday in Australia, limiting the time for Djokovic’s legal team to appeal ahead of the start of the tournament on Monday.
    If Djokovic is not in the Australian Open, he will inevitably leave the country and may never return and so this is a moment for all sides to draw breath and bring down the curtain on one of the most extraordinary stories in the history of tennis.
    As the debate over this divisive subject has raged in recent days, it has been hard to get away from the reality that Djokovic is attempting to play the game by his own rules at a time when everyone else on the tennis tour has signed up for something different, many doing so reluctantly.
    And when you look at the facts as they have been presented to us in the most extraordinary of sporting dramas, Djokovic is asking the world to join him in a plotline that is increasingly hard to believe.


    As the world number one played his final match for Serbia at the Davis Cup in Madrid on December 3rd, he was still batting away questions from reporters eager to discover whether he was intending to play at the Australian Open despite a strong suspicion that he was unvaccinated against Covid-19.
    “I know what you want,” said an agitated Djokovic when pressed by reporters over whether he would defend his Australian Open title the following month. “I’m not going to give you an answer tonight. I know what you want to ask me, but you will be informed. That’s all I can tell you. I cannot give you any date. Obviously, Australia is around the corner, so you will know very soon.”
    What we didn’t know at the time was Djokovic would need a succession of events to fall into place for him to have any hope of entering Australia, where only fully vaccinated visitors are currently allowed through border control.
    At that point, Djokovic was hoping to play for Serbia in the ATP Cup in the first week of January, before moving on to defend his Australian Open title and push for a record-breaking 21st Grand Slam.
    Winning a tenth title in Melbourne would edge him ahead of his great rivals Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal in the race to finish his career with more major titles than any other man in tennis history, yet there was only one viable route for him to get to Australia after he struck his final ball at the Davis Cup.
    As most of the world suspected, vaccine sceptic Djokovic had not followed the path of a vast majority of his tennis rivals by following the guidelines set out by the Australian government that required compulsory vaccines to play in Melbourne.
    Even though Tennis Australia had been told repeatedly by the Australian government that previous Covid infection would not be an acceptable reason to avoid the mandatory vaccine requirement for all players in the event, Djokovic was given alternative advice from tennis officials in Melbourne and it opened his door to participate.
    The positive Covid test result recorded by Djokovic on December 16th fell at the perfect moment to allow him to complete two weeks of isolation and then submit his application for a medical exemption to enter Australia.


    A delay in the process meant Djokovic was forced to pull out of the ATP Cup event, but he flew to Australia last week convinced he had ticked enough boxes to get into the country without any further questions.
    What followed become an international incident well beyond sport, as Djokovic was detained in a quarantine hotel, sparking huge protests in his native Serbia and enduring he became a poster boy for the anti-vaxx movement around the globe before he won an appeal to overturn his visa cancelation at a Melbourne court last Monday.
    That courtroom success may well prove to be the most hollow win of Djokovic’s decorated career, as social media accounts have undermined the timeline that was presented in a bid to get Djokovic inter Australia.
    He presented documents to confirm he tested positive for Covid on December 16th, but social media accounts confirm he attended an event to present awards to children the next day and then took part in an interview and photoshoot with French publication L’Equipe a day later.
    In a statement on Instagram released in the early hours of Wednesday morning, Djokovic has now confirmed he “felt obliged to go ahead and conduct the L’Equipe interview as I didn’t want to let the journalist down” despite knowing he was Covid positive.
    He also admitted his immigration form had been incorrectly filled out by a member of his team, as they neglected to include the fact he had travelled from his home in Serbia to Spain in the days before he flew to Spain, with social media accounts confirming Djokovic was at the SotoTennis Academy in Cadiz in the first week of January to practice.
    What happened next has become a story as big as any tennis has ever witnessed, with one of its iconic stars later confirming he attended a lengthy indoor event with a late group of people while knowing he had Covid-19.
    The secrecy around his trip to Spain seemed curious at the time, but it may now be explained as Djokovic needed to fit the timeline around his positive Covid test in order to get into Australia without too many questions being asked.
    Djokovic fans will stand by their man whatever he does, yet the reality must be that his version of events in this messy story would not get through a commissioning panel if it was submitted as a script for a TV show on the grounds that the viewers simply wouldn’t believe them.
    The pandemic has been a breeding ground for so many conspiracy theorists to weave a tangled web of mistruths and Djokovic now wants us all to believe he was going to miss the Australian Open unless he caught Covid in the two weeks between December 3rd and 16th.
    Clearly, Australia’s authorities are struggling to believe Djokovic’s convenient timeline and now an appeal court will decide whether his Melbourne melodrama has a final twist in its already bitter script.
    Surely the time has come for all sides to admit this process is doing no good and bring it to an end and while giving up is not in his nature, Djokovic should appreciate that winning this fight may, in fact, damage a legacy that has already been tarnished in brutal fashion over the last few weeks.

    Novak Djokovic comment: Enough is enough... it's time to end the circus
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    "As it stands, it looks like he's out of the tournament for too many unforced errors".


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
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    Cannot green you again so some free gibberish until a more lucid interlocutur arrives but a very good point well made your a stute as Kendal pencli sharpener today Harold.

    As it stands, it looks like he's out of the tournament for too many unforced errors".

    You couldn't have put it better myself, he's been court in the tram lines of deceit which will haunt him like the Thing that couldn't die

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    I'd say more chance of grand ole Duke of York getiting a job it a "ladies College", or BloJo resigning as the only honorable thing for sake of his Queen , country family and party , the nation and his "reputation" than than the Okkers tolerating an more shenanigans from this lairy larrikan.

    Rough day for Queen Eiizabeth her First Minister an acknowledged shit and chancer and er favorite lad stripped of Military lest a conviction of regal rape tarnish the firm. Meanwhile a spot of sport in her realm upside down rent by a Serbo-Turdo-Calumnist and his common wealth on show as he tries to weasl out of fessing he loed on his visa and put others at risk

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    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    Should be one rule for everyone, not something else for the rich & famous.
    You may wish to include the OZ PM in your "rules".

    Travelling to a family gathering during lockdown.



    Australians denounce their prime minister for a trip to see his family during lockdown.

    By Yan Zhuang


    Published Sept. 7, 2021

    Australians Slam Scott Morrison for Family Trip in Lockdown - The New York Times


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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    You may wish to include the OZ PM in your "rules".

    Australians denounce their prime minister for a trip to see his family during lockdown.
    Some chinky sticking up for antivaxxers?

    Well that tells you their shit doesn't work eh?


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    What are you on about? You deluded old cretin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
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    What are you on about? You deluded old cretin.
    I'm sorry you're so stupid. Everything seems to go over your tiny, empty head.


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    just how many exemptions were granted for this elitist party - a few of them have bolted of their own accord so they will not get deported

    did any of the pommy cricket entourage get exemptions ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    did any of the pommy cricket entourage get exemptions ?
    Excellent question.

    But I guess none of the cricketers are vocal antivaxxers on social media and making a big deal of it.

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    The Aussie govt made it clear several times that no vax, no entry.

    But I never saw anything confirming that anyone in the England party wasn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Australians denounce their prime minister for a trip to see his family during lockdown.
    I can read the article because of a paywall, so, in the firness of a balanced argument, the reply from the Prime Minister reported through The Guardian (below) ...

    Scott Morrison has defended a trip to see his family on Father’s Day, arguing he went home to Sydney then returned to Canberra under an essential work exemption.

    In an interview with Sky News on Tuesday, the prime minister said he understood people’s “frustration” given many Australians are unable to travel but claimed he had been the victim of “misinformation” about the issue.

    Morrison remains a resident of Sydney and his travel to Canberra was covered by the same essential work exemption granted to all parliamentarians.

    He told Sky News there was “no requirement to get an exemption to go to Sydney” and he had returned home after parliament finished on Thursday and attended national cabinet on Friday.

    ‘Cheap shot’: Scott Morrison defends Father’s Day trip to Sydney during lockdown | Australian politics | The Guardian

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    So Djoko is in front of the beak again at 10:30pmGMT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Australians denounce their prime minister for a trip to see his family during lockdown.
    Yea . . . I'm sure you're right . . . several did. Out of 27 million. Well done, OhWoe

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    For this interested, here is the Blog to what's going on in the Courts ATM.

    The Appeal process before the 3 judges is live now ... HERE

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    The Australian government is putting a very weak case before the court. Is this just for show?

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    To recap...

    Ok so while we're on lunch break, let's revisit some of the key arguments from this morning.
    Djokovic's defence team argues that the Minister failed to consider whether deporting Novak Djokovic would also have an impact on anti-vaccine sentiment in Australia, and thus his decision was illogical, irrational or unreasonable.

    They also have told the court the Minister misrepresented media reports in order to over-egg the tennis star's views on vaccines and the level of support he receives from anti-vaxxers.
    They argue there isn't enough evidence to find Djokovic's mere presence playing tennis in Australia would excite anti-vaccine sentiment, which was a conclusion reached by the Immigration Minister.

    The Minister's lawyer has been arguing against the suggestion that the minister did not consider that deporting Djokovic could foster anti-vax sentiment, in the same way allowing him to stay could.
    Stephen Lloyd says the minister was aware there were “consequences each way” but he didn’t have to go into all of that in his written reasons.

    Mr Lloyd has also said there was enough evidence to draw a conclusion about Djokovic's beliefs, given he is not vaccinated and has had ample chance to change that.

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