Thread: IndyCar

Today at Road America, Wisconsin

They are all more or less driving in the same type of car.

May the best man win


Nice track with overtaking possibilities

Magnussen is out

They towed him off

Not much of the Formula One fancy pancy

I like it

Grosjean is agressive. Hope he doesn't push it too far. Finish the race boy

Caution with 4 to go

Oh man

Newgarden's just lost the win

(he was my newfound favourite)

A good day at the races for Honda

Chip Gnassi should start an F1 team. He has nothing to prove here

Tried to watch some on the pirates. Former F1 driver Marcus Ericcson won. After launching off the back of a car at the start. This car won.

What a great race at Laguna Seca.

Thanks
Missed it yesterday

Seen some brilliant bike races from Laguna Seca

Backspin and N Americans have nothing to shout about. It’s a minor series in he US. It is now, and never was, a serious global competition.

Haas are learning the hard way. Any others who are dumb enough to try will get the same lesson.

Originally Posted by Switch

nothing to shout about.

Who's shouting, Switch ?

Originally Posted by Switch

It’s a minor series in he US.

I saw it in Australia but yes it is, as opposed to:

Originally Posted by Switch

a serious global competition.

10 teams (give and take)
Formula One is a global competition; I personally have two neighbors who participate.

Nah; it's a creme de la creme hyped money mashine circus.

Have you been to one ?


I'd rather see IndyCar

At least you can see the whole track or is that the one where they keep turning left

Originally Posted by helge

Formula One is a global competition

An American owned global competition.

Originally Posted by Switch

You seem to have mis read my post?

No

It's just the"global competion" thing

If the Yanks started playing most of their baseball games around the world, would it then be real "World Series" ?

Originally Posted by helge

No

It's just the"global competion" thing

If the Yanks started playing most of their baseball games around the world, would it then be real "World Series" ?

Ludicrous. How can it possibly be a World Series, if it only takes place in the USA with US teams competing?

Originally Posted by Switch

How can it possibly be a World Series, if it only takes place in the USA with US teams competing?

No one gives a fuck you old jizz swiller. You do not follow Indy, so fuck off out of here.

Originally Posted by Switch

Outside North America, they really have no idea, believing in straight line muscle car speed/big engines and what they affectionally refer to as “World Series” events.

Oh great, the old duffer is going to try and talk cars again. That never ends well since he knows fuckall about them. Stick to guzzling ladyboy jizz.

Originally Posted by Switch

The global racing car formula that I referred to is indeed, Formula One.

There is a Formula One thread so go post in it fuckwit. BTW F1 is an American series just like English cars are German.

I been getting all nostalgic about CART's heyday. The cars were beautiful af, fast af and the lineup was full of star drivers. Multiple chassis, tire brands and engines.

Here is Gil de Ferran's Closed Course World Record qualifying run of 241.428 mph (388.537 km/h) on October 28, 2000 at California Speedway in Fontana, California. Record for open wheel car stands today

Originally Posted by Backspin

California Speedway in Fontana

Was there for the first NASCAR race in 97. Great day had by all but can't remember who won.

Originally Posted by Backspin

I been getting all nostalgic about CART's heyday. The cars were beautiful af, fast af and the lineup was full of star drivers. Multiple chassis, tire brands and engines.

It was really something special in the nineties, and the racing was some of the best I ever have seen. Then Tony George came along and destroyed it by creating the IRL.

Originally Posted by Norton

Was there for the first NASCAR race in 97. Great day had by all but can't remember who won.

Cool. Jeff Gordon won. Probably at the height of his reign at that time.

It is an old article but sums up what happened back then...

So let me get this straight.

In the early 90's, CART was huge. It had mega crowds at every race, great TV ratings and lots of exposure. The series had become so popular that even Bernie Ecclestone started getting worried, especially when his world champion, Nigel Mansell, came over. There was also a large array of engine and chassis manufacturers which is what racing is all about.

But then came Tony George. His family gave him the keys to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and also gave him an open checkbook.

George tried to give his opinions to the CART owners, but they weren't listening. George wanted to be a part owner of CART, but they told him it wasn't for sale.

So what does he do? He takes out his checkbook and selfishly takes away the Indianapolis 500 from CART, possibly THE biggest race in the world, and takes it to his new series called the IRL. In doing this, he spent millions and millions of wasted dollars over the next couple of years, just to keep his new series afloat. It is estimated that he spent $50 million a year!

Why did he do this? He wanted power, he wanted things done his way.

CART tried to get the Indy 500 back and call it truce, but George wasn't having any of it, so both series continued on. As both series continued on, they kept losing attendance ratings and TV ratings, while NASCAR was laughing as they're series just kept getting bigger and bigger.

Over time, CART went bankrupt and found itself some new owners who now called it Champcar. The war kept on until 2008, when finally a unification happened! But it was too late, too much damage had been done, because of one irresponsible man given too much power.

Tony George had won the war, he finally had full power of American open wheel racing.

But for how long would it last? Why just a bit over a year after unification, the IMS board (which is owned by Tony George's own family by the way) ousted Tony from president and CEO of the IRL. Then half a year later, he resigns from the IMS board. Then, only about one week later, he shuts down his team, Vision Racing.

The man created the split to have full power. Think about this for a second. His major intention on creating the split, was to have full power. And only about a year and a half after finally getting it, HE'S NOTHING BUT A SPECTATOR!!!!

Now we are stuck with a series that is virtually unknown to the general public. The attendance and some of the races are just flat out embarrassing. The TV ratings are so low that sponsors laugh when a team asks them for support. Well, it doesn't help when your races are on a sports network that is invisible on most channel guides in America. Team owners are crying for change and cost cuts, but we have an idiot like Brian Barnhart running the show, and he's not doing anything about it. Let's not forget that we've been watching the same old, ugly Dallaras for quite some time. We have one engine manufacturer, one chassis manufacturer, and one tire manufacturer. It's become a spec series, and that sucks! Indy used to be about innovation and creativity, but that is all out the window now!

So once again, thanks Tony George! Thanks for ruining the sport we love! I'm obviously infuriated.

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Originally Posted by Switch

Indy car is a minor series in the US. I had no idea they were in OZ too.

The global racing car formula that I referred to is indeed, Formula One.
N
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I must have overlooked this reeking pile of shit that Switch left in this thread.

Asshole. Nobody denies that F1 is the premier open wheel series in the world. But the Indy 500 is the premier race in the world. You idiot. F1 champions have raced in CART and Indy and won titles. Nigel Mansell, Emerson Fittipaldi and Mario Andretti. Adrien Newey even built 2 title winning Indycars in 1985 and 86. They had Mercedes, Toyota, Ford Cosworth, GM and Honda as engine manufactures. 5 different chassis, Goodyear and Bridgestone tires.

Sir Frank Williams signed Jaques Villeneuve right out of Indycar, who went on to win a title.

CART and Indycar were right there with F1 in the 80's and 90's.