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    Australia reacts to Eddie McGuire ‘dumpster fire’ Collingwood press conference

    Calls for Eddie Mcguire’s head have reached frenzied levels after the Collingwood president’s “delusional” media conference.


    Eddie McGuire, it’s time to go.
    The long-serving Collingwood president has 12 months left as the boss of the biggest club in Australian football.
    It is 12 months too long.
    Calls for the 56-year-old to stand down from his position at Collingwood reached frenzied levels on Monday after he delivered a “delusional” press conference when his club was forced to address an internal club investigation which concluded Collingwood is guilty of fostering “systemic racism” that “has resulted in profound and enduring harm to First Nations and African players”.
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    McGuire tried to spin a positive light on the bombshell verdict.
    Despite the report’s findings, McGuire failed to say the word “sorry” once in a press conference that lasted more than one hour.
    It was just the tip of the iceberg from his extraordinary press conference, which has been described by football commentators as a “dumpster fire”.
    The level of outrage from the wider football community directed at the former host of The Footy Show is something rarely seen.
    In a sport of 18 divided clubs, McGuire has united football in sheer condemnation of his actions.
    McGuire began the press conference by declaring Monday was an “historic and proud day” for Collingwood.

    Eddie McGuire has been president of Collingwood since 1998.Source:Getty Images

    His comments came after The Herald Sun exclusively obtained the 35-page report compiled by Professor Larissa Behrendt and Professor Lindon Coombes, which shined a damning spotlight on the culture at Collingwood.
    The investigation, which comprised of interviews with 30 people, found Collingwood’s responses to instances of alleged racism were “at best ineffective, or at worst exacerbated the impact of the racist incidents”.
    The report also said Collingwood addresses claims of racism through the prism of protecting the club’s brand and reputation, rather than addressing the issues directly and instigating meaningful change.
    Within 30 seconds of sitting in front of the microphone, McGuire had stepped right back into that the shadows of denying any problem existed or continues to exist.
    McGuire’s attempts to spin the narrative only inflamed the anger across the footy community.
    Victoria’s first Indigenous senator Lidia Thorpe led the livid response to the Magpies figurehead.
    “Eddie’s gotta go,” she posted on Twitter with an image of her calls from earlier on Monday which accused McGuire of overseeing a culture of “appalling structural racism”.
    Sports reporter, formerly of The Australian, Ray Gatt summed up the mood on Twitter: “Judging by Twitter, there is absolutely no love for Eddie McGuire or Collingwood. Car wreck of a presser”.

    Hello darkness my old friend...Source:AAP

    Many commentators simply didn’t want McGuire to get away with his attempts to spin his way out of trouble.
    ABC state political reporter Richard Willingham wrote on Twitter: “I’ve seen some spin in my time in politics but oh boy”.
    ABC columnist Richard Hinds wrote McGuire was repeating the same mistakes from the past.
    “A key part of the report into Collingwood’s racism was how the club had tried to spin its way out of such issues and cared more about media image than actions,” he posted on Twitter.
    “So what do we hear today?
    “Surely Eddie can’t serve another month after this dumpster fire of a response. Let alone twelve. Test of character for the other board members.”
    Sports commentator Mike Wise continued the calls for Collingwood members and directors to force McGuire out before the end of his tenure at the end of the 2021 season.
    “Well after that car crash of a press conference, I hope Collingwood members make their voices heard and unceremoniously boot that chump out of a job TODAY,” he wrote on Twitter.
    The outcry was deafening.


















    The internal reports’ findings came after public claims of racism by former Magpies defender Heritier Lumumba, which forced the club into action.
    The report said a separate investigation into his circumstances was warranted and claimed “there is a gap between what Collingwood Football Club says it stands for and what it does”.
    Asked about Lumumba’s refusal to sit down with his former club because he feels so hurt by his experiences and how his claims have been treated, McGuire said Collingwood will continue to reach out, adding “it breaks our heart” the backman doesn’t want to be part of the Magpie family.
    “We’re not a mean-spirited club, we’re not a racist club,” McGuire said. “I hope this provokes conversation tonight in every household, in all of your workplaces.”
    McGuire continued, speaking of his pride and rejecting any suggestion he would step down from his role.
    He said the Magpies were taking on a leading role in the fight against racism, adding: “We have spent the last six years in a deep dive into how we can make ourselves better, provide leadership and conversation in the community as only Collingwood can.
    “We have decided as a club that this fight against racism and discrimination is where we want to be.
    “We make mistakes. We learn, we strive to get better.
    “We commissioned this report not to pay lip services to a worldwide tragedy, but to lay the foundations for our game, our people and our community.”

    McGuire is not on Lumumba’s Christmas card list.Source:News Limited

    McGuire added the report “is not criticism, this is a review”, and was instigated because Collingwood wanted to “seize the moment” and “put ourselves in front of things”.
    He also denied any racist issues raised in the report were because of “intention”.
    “I am extremely proud. I’ve been here a long time and we’ve done a lot of great things, and this is great,” he said.
    “There have been issues throughout history. Not only at football clubs, but everywhere. We can argue semantics, but the tone of where we want to get to is how we go forward ... rather than arguing the toss on individual issues.”
    McGuire denied there was any “systemic racism” at the club, even though the report explicitly stated that was the case. Grilled how he could deny there were issues of racism at Collingwood given that’s what the report found, a bullish McGuire continued to spruik Collingwood’s achievements during his 22 years at the helm.
    “What’s happened on my watch is we’ve built a fantastic club, we’ve commissioned this report, we’ve built all sorts of mechanisms for getting involved in the community, like looking after the homeless ... of which we are very proud.
    “It was not systemic racism, as such, we just didn’t have the processes to deal with it that we do now.
    “I don't think there’s any shame or disappointment here ... this is a day of pride.”
    McGuire also said Collingwood has “led the way” in the fight against racism since he became president 22 years ago. “There shouldn’t be anyone trying to have a ‘gotcha’ moment here,” he said.

    Heritier Lumumba claimed he was nicknamed “Chimp” at Collingwood.Source:News Corp Australia

    “If we put ourselves up to be marked, and marked hard. We do so because we believe this is a spot we need to be in to show social justice, natural justice, and a leadership position.
    “We’re not rejecting any part of the report. It’s not an investigation ... We’re not gonna go after people or prosecute the case back,” he said.
    “We wanted to find the feel out there, now we’ve got it, and we’re going to take on board the recommendations.”
    The report was delivered to the Collingwood board in December, just days after McGuire announced he would step down at the end of 2021.
    Lumumba in December accused Collingwood of trying to bury the findings of the investigation.
    He launched legal action in October.
    Documents were reportedly filed in the Supreme Court of Victoria on Wednesday, alleging a “duty of care” breach by Collingwood in providing a safe workplace.
    In June, the Magpies announced they would launch an investigation into Lumumba’s allegations of a “culture of racist jokes” during his 10-year stint at the club.
    Four months later, Lumumba lodged a Supreme Court claim against Collingwood and the AFL for “failing to protect him from racism”.
    In documents filed to the Supreme Court in October, the 2010 premiership player alleged the Pies failed in their “duty of care” to provide a safe working environment.
    McGuire has overseen the club since 1998.
    Of all the damaging comments made by McGuire on Monday, perhaps the most hurtful thing is that it distracts attention away from the alleged victims of the club’s “systemic racism”.

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    -eddie-jpg


    This cartoon speak to quite a few fellows and their misguided sense of entitlement and lack of acknowledgemnet of racism.

    Here's the orginal 20 years earlier, when Nicky Winmar stood against boos from the crowd and proclaimed that he is proud to be black. AFL has erected a statue in honour of the iconic moment.

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    Give us a synopsis of the facts, please.


    You barrack for the 'pies, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Give us a synopsis of the facts, please.
    A report has been leaked revealling that the Collingwood Magpies is full of systemic racism.

    Eddie McGuire, the Club president and face of the Magpies for twenty years holds a media conference to say that this is the greatest day ever for the pies and that there is no racism in the club, despite his record.

    That's it.

    tl:dr

    Old, white, racist guy says there is no racism in his club.




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    You barrack for the 'pies, right?
    Dem's fightin words!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Dem's fightin words!
    Cockroach!


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Calls for Eddie Mcguire’s head have reached frenzied levels after the Collingwood president’s “delusional” media conference.
    Nothing but utter contempt for the man ... wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.

    Australia's own version of a little Trump.

    Cnut

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    PH, more here ... tinyurl.com/1wqihz96

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    Does he do something outside of AFL?

    I don't follow it at all but he looks familiar for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Does he do something outside of AFL?

    I don't follow it at all but he looks familiar for some reason.
    By the 2000s he'd earned the nickname "Eddie Everywhere."
    He was hosting The Footy Show, commentating on games for Triple M and Fox Footy (including Collingwood games), presenting on radio, hosting the quiz show Who Wants to be a Millionaire? and even hosting the Logies.
    He managed to brush off any criticism that his media work was a conflict of interest with his role as president of Collingwood.
    From my link above ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    hosting the quiz show Who Wants to be a Millionaire?
    Boom! That's it, knew he looked familiar.

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    Yep, Eddie Everywhere.

    cvnt.

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    After 23 years at the Collingwood Football Club, Eddie McGuire announces his retirement, effective immediately.




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    Finally.

    Fucking Eddie Everywhere.

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    ‘Challenge the behaviour, support the individual': Indigenous leader backs McGuire



    Eddie McGuire does not deserve the sort of simplistic labelling that was prompted by the Do Better report and his decision to stand down, according to former senior AFL Indigenous adviser Jason Mifsud.

    Mifsud, an Indigenous man, said McGuire would comfortably "walk with Aboriginal communities," many of whom had strong relationships with the former Collingwood president'


    "Some of the labels put on Eddie I do not subscribe to or accept and they don't reconcile with my own personal experience with him," Mifsud said.

    "My dealings with him personally and professionally, this is not who I have seen. For many in the Aboriginal community Ed has been a huge advocate. For many of us with personal experience, he has been a great supporter.

    "That is not to excuse some of the things he has not got right and things he has said. There is a silent majority of Aboriginal people who know Ed and trust Ed and who find it hard to reconcile the picture being painted of him.

    "He has helped many Indigenous people. The experiences certainly do not correspond with the labels around the club and Eddie. That is not to say he and I have not had discussions around language and previous mistakes, but I am more about challenge the behaviour and support the individual."

    ‘Challenge the behaviour, support the individual': Indigenous leader backs McGuire (msn.com)


    I really don't care that some vapid quiz show host has been bullied and browbeaten into resigning as collywobble chair earlier in the same year that he had already announced he was resigning anyway. But I still reckon it is absolute bullshit. Collingwood is known for having a large contingent of abo supporters anyway. Oh dear, he said something in a way the permanently offended find offensive, when announcing a thorough and comprehensive review he had instigated in the club addressing 'systemic racism'. Furthermore, as a fellow aussie rules fan, I think Collingwood is more noted for a culture of vulgarity than a culture of racism as such- and I suspect their legion of feral abo supporters might well agree. But whatever, who cares. Nothing to see here.

    My own club, Port Adelaide, is well noted for having a large indigenous support base, and an above average amount of abo players too- highest in the league, last I knew. So I guess the snowflakes are gonna be trying to get upset about something there next.
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    Why do you try so hard to be 'edgy' and whine so much about being the victim?


    This is so very unlike your usual traits.

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    If you think that's edgy, take it up with that edgy indigenous leader Jason Mifsud, bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    If you think that's edgy,
    Yeah, it's not. It's just boorish.

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    ^ Racist! You have offended our indigenous Australians. Typical Collingwood supporter.

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    Boorish is not a racist word, has nothing to do with Frist Nations people nor are they offended.

    Churlish reply.

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    Frist nations people, take note. Oh, I mentioned you snowflake types 'from the internet' to me abo mate, Greg, down the pub. He's there regular as clockwork for Friday happy hour, so I'll be sure to get his unique take on the Collingwood saga tomorrow. But I doubt he'll give a rats.

    This however was to do with the fact that these snowflake types on the internet accuse you of being racist for calling abos abo in Australia. He said you could kiss his boong arse!

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    Righto, just like English Noodles big black friend called Blackie.

    Nice story, but it's a non sequitur.

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    Whatever you say, but it sure raised a laugh at the time.

    Incidentally, as a self proclaimed loyal Collingwood supporter have You noticed an ingrained culture of racism at the club? Not vulgarity, or feral behaviour- we've known that forever- but actual Racism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Incidentally, as a self proclaimed loyal Collingwood supporter
    *sigh*

    I'm not.



    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    You noticed an ingrained culture of racism at the club? Not vulgarity, or feral behaviour- we've known that forever- but actual Racism?
    nicknaming an aboriginal team mate Chimp? Yeah, racist.

    your Prez telling Adam Goodes he should promote King King? Yeah, racist.

    The leaked report outlines a litany of other examples, so racist!

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    Actually, Heritier Lumumba is Brazilian born, and is not indigenous at all. Get your facts right. No, I don't like the nickname Chimp either.
    OK, so you're not collywobble then, so no point asking you- but Collingwood supporters are known for their, shall we say, enthusiasm and vulgarity.
    It would be interesting to hear from an actual indigenous Collingwood supporter what they have to say about this culture of racism.

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    Keep shifting those goal posts

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