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    Sneaked it at the end there that they will be testing the 2022 tyres after the race.

    WHY WE’VE CHOSEN THE TYRES
    * The longest-ever Formula 1 season concludes with its 22nd race, the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. After two new venues in Qatar and Saudi Arabia, the Yas Marina circuit is a more familiar challenge – although the track has been quite significantly modified this year. Nonetheless, based on simulation and other data, the same tyre compounds have been nominated as in 2020: the C3 as the P Zero White hard, C4 as the P Zero Yellow medium, and C5 as the P Zero Red soft.
    * The changes to the track, which have been designed to provide more overtaking opportunities, will increase speeds and loads through some corners. However, as the circuit will still be smooth, with average stress on the tyres in terms of wear and degradation, the three softest compounds in the P Zero range remain a suitable choice.

    TRACK CHARACTERISTICS
    * Several changes have been introduced to the circuit layout, which was previously unaltered since its debut in 2009. Early in the lap, the chicane that formed Turns 5 and 6 will be bypassed with a straight. The following hairpin has been brought forward and widened, increasing the speed carried onto the subsequent straight. A long and slightly banked turn has been created to replace the technical complex of corners (Turns 11-14) that existed previously. Near the end of the lap, the four tight corners that route the track around the Yas Marina hotel (Turns 17-20) have all been opened up and made faster.
    * These changes have shortened the circuit by 273 metres, which means the race distance has been increased from 55 to 58 laps and lap times will fall by an estimated 14 seconds.
    * As usual, the race will begin just before sunset and run into darkness, with track temperatures falling quite quickly: in turn affecting tyre behaviour. FP2 and qualifying are the only two relevant sessions, with the other two free practices run in the heat of the day.
    * Last year’s winning strategy, with the same tyre nomination, was a medium to hard one-stopper: the same tactic used by all the top three. Only three drivers stopped more than once, and it was the sixth consecutive time that the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix had been won from pole.
    MARIO ISOLA - HEAD OF CAR RACING
    “The Yas Marina circuit is a familiar venue for the final race of the year, but the modifications to the track will provide a new twist and promises to give us an exciting conclusion to what has been a thrilling season. This will be the first time we face the new configuration, including some areas with new asphalt, but we have been able to rely on simulations and other information in advance to prepare. In general, with the creation of some quicker turns, the track is now faster and with more overtaking opportunities. The result of these changes are bigger vertical loads, especially on the front tyres. But we don’t expect the overall severity for the tyres to change significantly, which is why we’ve nominated the softest tyres in the range.
    After the race, the teams will have the chance to test with the final specification of 18-inch tyres for 2022 using mule cars. The first time we’ll see the definitive package of new tyres with 2022 cars in action will be during pre-season testing next year at the end of February.”

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    Tobacco company ad spend in F1. Been a while.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    I am curious to know where you get this 80 number. I don't think teams make these details public and whatever difference there is between the cars that is a marginal difference is on top of about 1000bhp, we aren't talking about family sedans. Also you saw Max beating Lewis's qualy time until he overcooked it and hit the wall at the final corner, so I don't think it is all that easy simply to say that MB have a more powerful car and will therefore win. The two cars look to be quite closely matched. Which bodes well for a final race with the two contenders starting on identical points.
    That 80hp bollocks has been going on for over a decade now. Hamilton had a late engine change so it doesn't have to run as long to the end of season. Since the engine is fuel limited the turbo has been tuned to deliver more power. Max had the advantage with extra power earlier so it's averaged itself out over the season.

    A pity skid is so polarised and has such a nasty posting style...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    That 80hp bollocks has been going on for over a decade now. Hamilton had a late engine change so it doesn't have to run as long to the end of season. Since the engine is fuel limited the turbo has been tuned to deliver more power. Max had the advantage with extra power earlier so it's averaged itself out over the season.

    A pity skid is so polarised and has such a nasty posting style...
    Not only that, he doesn't know a fucking thing about the sport, and all of his opinions come from stupid cloggies whining on Facebook.



    Just to get him googling again, maybe he can tell us why Max had a 0.4s/lap advantage in qualifying?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    That 80hp bollocks has been going on for over a decade now. Hamilton had a late engine change so it doesn't have to run as long to the end of season. Since the engine is fuel limited the turbo has been tuned to deliver more power. Max had the advantage with extra power earlier so it's averaged itself out over the season.

    A pity skid is so polarised and has such a nasty posting style...
    That is a bunch of hooey. Before Brazil , there was Red Bull tracks and Mercedes tracks. They were very evenly matched. Since Brazil , the average delta between Mercedes and the rest of the field has increased by 50%.

    The delta between the Mercedes and everyone else is as wide as it's ever been in the whole hybrid era since Brazil.

    Which is why i said after the sprint race in Brazil that the championship was over. Because it was. Strategy isn't even a factor anymore. Hamilton could have started in P10 for the last 4 races and he still would have won. Max does not have the power to compete.

    But Mercedes fans are still under this illusion that its close

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Not only that, he doesn't know a fucking thing about the sport, and all of his opinions come from stupid cloggies whining on Facebook.



    Just to get him googling again, maybe he can tell us why Max had a 0.4s/lap advantage in qualifying?

    Maybe because Max is totally over driving the car ? And it didn't even finish that lap. Hamilton was out for a Sunday in qualifying and the race. Max was driving as agressively as ever and didn't have a chance of holding a lead

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    Has Hamilton had one less race than Max?
    The one where Hamilton had Covid and Mercedes stuffed up Russell’s chance to win?

    It would be funny if Max had Covid for the next race and Hamilton finished 10th. ……. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    But Mercedes fans are still under this illusion that its close
    Close, even when it isn't, is essential to bring in the big bucks to teams and F1. Although to a degree, F1 has always been about bringing in revenue, I have in the last few years lost the interest I once had. Way over the top now.

    Not near as fanatical as I once was but would like to see Max win only because of Red Bull's connection to Thailand.

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    Good to see Masi has reminded Mad Max that the stewards can deduct points if he tries to cheat again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Good to see Masi has reminded Mad Max that the stewards can deduct points if he tries to cheat again.
    I do hope this gets decided on the track without the stewards getting involved, or worse, the doctors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    I do hope this gets decided on the track without the stewards getting involved, or worse, the doctors.
    All depends if Mad Max gets the message.

    Having said that, there are three other red bulls in the game.

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    No cards played in FP1 and FP2.

    Kimi decided to smash up his motor though, just to give the boys some extra overtime for Xmas in his last race.

    How thoughtful.

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    FP3 about to start.

    A little guide for skidmark as to what the flags mean:

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    Methinks there will be a game of chicken in Q2 as the top two try and fake what tyres they are going to start with.

    Mercedes are goading Whinger Spice into throwing everything into qualifying again.

    Red Bull are furiously fiddling with the rear wing again.

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    So Perez and Mad Max will start the race on softs. Hamilton and Bottas on Mediums.

    Q3 Mad Max gets first blood.

    Final lap coming up.

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    A predictable front row:

    1. Mad Max
    2. Sir Lewis
    3. Lando!

    Don't know the rest, the site has crashed which isn't a surprise I suppose.

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    If anyone was wondering what the loud cheering coming from the paddock was, Mazepin will miss the race because he has the 'rona.

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    Max on softs, Ham on medium at start. Thinking a 1 stopper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Max on softs, Ham on medium at start. Thinking a 1 stopper?
    15 minutes and we will all find out. I am betting that Harry is down at the pub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    15 minutes and we will all find out. I am betting that Harry is down at the pub.
    Sneaked out of the office.

    Just made it home in time.

    I'm pretty sure it's a one stopper against a two stopper but one SC can change all that.

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    Here we go again.

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    Hamilton already dirty.

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    Unreal. If this stands then I am done with F1.

    There is no real racing. That was a clean pass.

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    Verstappen carried straight on again. He never learns.

    No investigation necessary.

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