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Just plain bollocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by hallelujah
You sound a bit like harry posting from the middle east on which Scots are entitled an opinion on independence. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by hallelujah
You can't really speak for anyone but yourself ... all the way away in S. America.
What TV companies around the world are gonna pay good money for a competition with the likes of Aston Villa, Leicester and West Ham as its top teams? What top players are gonna want to play in it?Quote:
Originally Posted by cyrille
You're living in dream world, Cy.
Keep in mind that this Super League is meant to run in tandem with the leagues - midweek fixtures - so the clubs will still be sticking around...for the moment.
Of course, we all know what to expect further down the line.
Just think though, 15 teams that will always be there as founder members. Sport's supposed to be about competition. It makes me want to puke.
Fielding their reserve sidesQuote:
Originally Posted by hallelujah
It's what he does.Quote:
Originally Posted by taxexile
It's what he does.Quote:
Originally Posted by taxexile
Think he got 20 mill off Chelsea iirc, and that was about 6 sackings ago. :)
He's a bit like NPT, comes in all jolly smiles and high fives, bit o' banter and elbow nudges, 6 months later the seething anger and daily meltdowns come to the fore, before being told to fok off. :)
Indeed, and probably still winning. If there's a gap now between the elite and the rest, just imagine how big it will be when they're guaranteed pots of their filthy lucre every season.Quote:
Originally Posted by strigils
United didn't even qualify for the knock outs this season
Arsenal and Spurs weren't even in the competition
Leicester have won a title more recently than any of the three
City have never won a European Cup
It's fucking rotten.
Stop talking bollocks sybil.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyrille
Do you seriously think they can flog the EPL around the world for 5Bn quid every three years without those clubs in it.
I know you'll be on iFollow anyway, but it will knacker the rest of the clubs.
I read today that the "founding members" are being offered $3.5Bn just to join.
Madness.
I don't know whether I prefer it to be stamped on before it goes anywhere or let it be a titanic failure like that last mob that bought up rights everywhere were.
Here, here.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyrille
Might be a good thing in the long run if all the fans boycott the "big 6".
Support your local village or town, get football back to grassroots.
Bad news for Hal, his new team is Unión Magdalena:)
Where where :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe 90
^^ The whole system in the UK is broken and the idea of the big money trickling down and the Eng FA being beneficent is a farce. The UK Govt is opposed to this and i think they should use this move to review the UK footy governance, structure and funding - including allowing foreign criminals to wash their cash through the sport.
Hear hearQuote:
Originally Posted by strigils
About time
The government has said it will do "whatever it takes" to prevent a breakaway European Super League involving six leading English clubs.
The PM said ministers would be working to make sure the league did not go ahead in the way being proposed.
The Duke of Cambridge also said he shared fans' concerns about "the damage it risks causing to the game we love".
The 12 founding members of the league - plus three yet to join - would be permanent and never face relegation.
The competition would have 20 teams and the other five sides would have to qualify each year for the competition, to take place midweek and rival the Champions League.
Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Tottenham have signed up to the plan.
They would join Spanish sides Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid and Barcelona and Italian clubs AC Milan, Juventus and Inter Milan.
Aleksander Ceferin, the president of European football's governing body, Uefa, has warned that players who play for teams in the ESL would be "banned from the World Cup and the Euros".
Why are football's biggest clubs starting a new league?
I'm disappointed and disgusted - Danny Murphy
As opposition to the plans gathered momentum, Prince William, President of the Football Association, said in a tweet: "Now, more than ever, we must protect the entire football community - from the top level to the grassroots - and the values of competition and fairness at its core."
media caption"We will do whatever it takes to protect our national game" – Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden
In a statement to MPs in the House of Commons, Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden criticised the so-called "big six" English clubs for going "against the very spirit of the game".
He added that club owners "should remember that they are only temporary custodians of these clubs and that they forget fans at their peril".
Mr Dowden said he had spoken to Uefa and the Football Association, who both oppose the move by the 12 clubs, adding that, "if they can't act, we will".
"We will put everything on the table to prevent this from happening," he told MPs. "We are examining every option from governance reform to competition law and mechanisms that allow football to take place.
"We will be reviewing everything Government does to support these clubs to play. We will do whatever it takes to protect our national game."
A fan-led review, due to take place after the pandemic, has been brought forward because of the ESL announcement, Mr Dowden said.
It will be led by former sports minister Tracey Crouch and consider how fans can have an even greater say in the oversight of the game.
The review will also look at the finances of the men's and women's game, its governance and whether an independent football regulator should be set up.
media captionBoris Johnson: Super League "not good for football"
Earlier, Prime Minister Boris Johnson said the government was "going to look at everything that we can do with the football authorities to make sure that this (plan) doesn't go ahead in the way that it's currently being proposed".
Downing Street said ministers were looking at a "range of options", including a German-style system of fan ownership of clubs and clawing back coronavirus support loans.
But Labour urged ministers to do more, with shadow culture secretary Jo Stevens saying it was "time for the government to get off the subs bench and show some leadership on the pitch because we need reform of football".
She added: "It's not as if there's been a blockage here in Parliament preventing the government from taking action to sort the problems out."
Protesters outside Elland Road stadium
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image captionAbout 700 fans gathered outside the ground and then dispersed before kick-off
Fans and pundits have expressed revulsion at what they claim would be an unfair competition, locking others out of top European football.
Match of the Day host and former England footballer Gary Lineker said it was "a time of great concern", adding that if the ESL went ahead as planned, it would have "massive ramifications" on the domestic game.
"It will wreck the pyramid system (of leagues, promotion and relegation) that has been so important to local football clubs, communities and teams, and it takes out the competition."
Around 68% of football fans strongly oppose the creation of the ESL, while only 14% support it, according to a YouGov survey of 1,730 fans.
Some 700 football supporters gathered outside Leeds United's Elland Road ground ahead of the club's Premier League game against Liverpool to protest against the proposed new league.
media captionManchester United fan Natalie Burrell said she was 'disgusted' by the plans
The 12 founding members of the ESL said the pandemic had "accelerated the instability in the existing European football economic model".
They said there was a "need to provide higher-quality matches and additional financial resources for the overall football pyramid".
BBC's Sports Editor Dan Roan said leading figures involved in the move had yet to speak publicly about it, but behind the scenes insist it would generate much more money, not just for the clubs involved, but for the rest of the "football family".
He said they seemed "very confident" they were on a strong legal footing when it came to blocking any punishments threatened by bodies such as Uefa.
Earlier, Manchester United's shares rose within minutes of the opening bell on the New York Stock Exchange, where they are traded.
Fifteen minutes after the trading day began, they were up around 8.5%. Meanwhile, Juventus's share price jumped by more than 14% on Monday morning.
Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp has said he remained opposed to the idea of the league, despite his club agreeing to join it.
"I like the competitive aspect of football. I like that West Ham might play in the Champions League," he said, adding that he and his players did not know about the move before it happened.
David Bernstein, a former Manchester City and FA chairman, said: "The club that I've supported since the 1950s and had the privilege of being chairman, at a time when they were in the First Division, is part of a grouping to sort of split football in this way, and destroy the pyramid of football that's so important to this country - I find, to put it mildly, very, very disappointing."
It seems none of the managers knew about it until it hit the press.
Just a bunch of investors looking to cream some more profits.
I wonder what Italy and Spain are saying about it?
I wonder how many players will/would leave a breakaway club on principle or due to the ramifications, and/or if they will be allowed to leave by their club.
I think if the country and UEFA associations ban players international participation then they'd have a legitimate argument to suggest the club has put them in a position which has materially altered their contract to the degree that it may well invalidate it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neverna
Chelsea backing out
City beat them to it after Peps criticism today...Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
Manchester City have withdrawn from the European Super League (ESL) and Chelsea are also preparing to do so.
Efforts to leave come just two days after both were announced as two of six English clubs to sign up to the controversial new competition.
The ESL has been widely criticised since being announced on Sunday.
Chelsea and the plastics pulling out. Woodward quits the moaners.
Added: Arsenal quit it too.
Who's behind all this?
The Glaziers....
^Money
Anyway, back on topic.
Chelsea 0-0 Brighton and Brighton had the best chances. All still to play for regarding CL places, but Brighton should be safe.
They're a decent side who are much better than their position suggests.
The stupid fucking Dagos. They are doing their tits trying to keep up with each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe 90
Well the whole thing is an American model, and isn't a Glazer vice chairman of the 'Super League' organising committee?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe 90
So yeah, it's the Glazers, Henry at Liverpool and Kroenke at Arsenal at the helm.
Not content with milking United, the papier mache heads want to screw the entire league!
What a shower of cnuts, the lot of them!
And I have to laugh at this being hailed as a victory for fan power.
As if!
I reckon the players were on the blower to club owners about the idea of franchises and salary caps pretty quickly.
Discussion of wtf is happening to the English Premier League is clearly on topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by hallelujah