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    Well, well - odds on the great escape by the baggies?

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    Even for something that has been terrible all season, this has been a truly awful week for VAR.

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    On a bright night note, Calvert-lewin ain't playing so i get my 17 points for Dallas. Happy days.

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    Disgraceful news about this proposed European Super League breakaway. Greed. Greed. Greed.

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    Uefa, Fifa etc has to go anyway

    I hope this will weaken them

    Let the corrupt bastards fall

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Uefa, Fifa etc has to go anyway

    I hope this will weaken them

    Let the corrupt bastards fall
    Not at the expense of the leagues and the smaller clubs. Football shouldn't be a closed shop where only the most powerful are allowed to prosper.

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    Give it time

    Less to the bastards, more to the clubs and the national FAs

    Much more to the small clubs.

    Way less to Ronaldo

    Let's castrate the fuckers..together

    Comrade

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Not at the expense of the leagues and the smaller clubs. Football shouldn't be a closed shop where only the most powerful are allowed to prosper.
    The trickle down bollocks hasn't worked Hal, those running the FA, UEFA and FIFA are nothing but a bunch of Cyrilles, erm slimeballs.

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    Gary Neville:


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    Doubling the ugly fcuker - that’s not easy to look at.

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    You could click on the video and double the displeasure by listening to the annoying gobshite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Doubling the ugly fcuker - that’s not easy to look at.
    Nor will the Premiership table be in two or three weeks time.


    Bye bye

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    The premier league is nigh!

    Back to supporting Altrincham FC for me..

    Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Tottenham are among 12 clubs who have agreed to join a new European Super League (ESL).

    In a seismic move for European football, the Premier League clubs will join AC Milan, Atletico Madrid, Barcelona, Inter Milan, Juventus and Real Madrid.

    The ESL said the founding clubs had agreed to establish a "new midweek competition" with teams continuing to "compete in their respective national leagues".

    'I'm disappointed and disgusted' - ex-Liverpool and Tottenham midfielder Murphy
    It says the inaugural season "is intended to commence as soon as practicable" and "anticipated that a further three clubs will join" the breakaway.

    The plans of the ESL also include launching a corresponding women's competition as soon as is possible after the men's tournament starts.

    UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson, Uefa and the Premier League condemned the move to launch a European Super League when news of it broke on Sunday.

    World governing body Fifa has previously said it would not recognise such a competition and any players involved in it could be denied the chance to play at a World Cup.

    Uefa reiterated this warning on Sunday when it said players involved would be banned from all other competitions at domestic, European or world level and could be prevented from representing their national teams.

    After the Super League was announced, Fifa expressed its "disapproval" of the proposed competition and called on "all parties involved in heated discussions to engage in calm, constructive and balanced dialogue for the good of the game".

    In a statement, the ESL said: "Going forward, the founding clubs look forward to holding discussions with Uefa and Fifa to work together in partnership to deliver the best outcomes for the new league and for football as a whole."


    Dion Dublin & Danny Murphy discuss the plans for a European Super League
    Why now?
    There were talks in October, involving Wall Street bank JP Morgan, over a new £4.6bn competition that would replace the Champions League.

    Uefa had hoped the plans for a new 36-team Champions League would head off the formation of a Super League. The Champions League reforms are set to be confirmed on Monday.

    However, the 12 sides involved in the Super League do not think the reforms go far enough.

    They said the global pandemic has "accelerated the instability in the existing European football economic model".

    "In recent months, extensive dialogue has taken place with football stakeholders regarding the future format of European competitions," they added.

    "The founding clubs believe the solutions proposed following these talks do not solve fundamental issues, including the need to provide higher-quality matches and additional financial resources for the overall football pyramid."

    What is the proposed format?
    The league will have 20 teams - the 12 founding members plus the three unnamed clubs they expect to join soon and five sides who qualify annually according to their domestic achievements.

    It will start in August, with midweek fixtures, and the clubs will be split into two groups of 10, who play each other home and away.

    The top three in each group qualify for the quarter-finals, with the teams in fourth and fifth playing a two-legged play-off for the two remaining spots.

    From then, on it will have the same two-leg knockout format used in the Champions League before a single-leg final in May at neutral venue.

    On the financial front, the ESL predicts the new competition's "long-term commitment to uncapped solidarity payments" will be "substantially higher than those generated by the current European competition and are expected to be in excess of 10bn euros (£8.65bn) during the course of the initial commitment period of the clubs".

    There will be a spending framework for the founders, who will receive "3.5bn euros (£3bn) solely to support their infrastructure investment plans and to offset the impact of the Covid pandemic".

    What do the Super League leaders say?
    Juventus forward Cristiano Ronaldo (left) dribbles past AC Milan player Diogo Dalot (right)
    Juventus and AC Milan have signed up to the breakaway league plans
    Real Madrid president Florentino Perez is the first chairman of the ESL and says "we will help football at every level".

    "Football is the only global sport in the world with more than four billion fans and our responsibility as big clubs is to respond to their desires," he added.

    Juventus chairman Andrea Agnelli has resigned from the Uefa executive committee and as chairman of the European Club Association (ECA), which had pushed the planned Champions League reforms.

    He said the 12 clubs had "come together at this critical moment, enabling European competition to be transformed, putting the game we love on a sustainable footing for the long-term future".

    Agnelli believes that the new competition will give "fans and amateur players a regular flow of headline fixtures that will feed their passion for the game while providing them with engaging role models".

    Manchester United co-chairman Joel Glazer will be a vice-chairman of the Super League.

    He said: "By bringing together the world's greatest clubs and players to play each other throughout the season, the Super League will open a new chapter for European football, ensuring world-class competition and facilities, and increased financial support for the wider football pyramid."

    What has been the reaction?
    Essentially, widespread condemnation from anyone not involved in the proposed league.

    That opposition has even gone to the highest level in some countries, with Prime Minister Boris Johnson saying the plans will be "very damaging for football" and that the UK government supports the sport's authorities "in taking action".

    France's President Emmanuel Macron added that he "welcomes the position of French clubs to refuse to participate" in a European Super League "that threatens the principle of solidarity and sporting merit".

    Within the game, Uefa released a joint statement with England's Football Association, the Premier League, the Spanish Football Federation, La Liga and the Italian Football Federation, as well as Serie A, saying they will "remain united" in trying to stop the breakaway, using both judicial and sporting measures if required.

    The ECA, which represents Europe's clubs, also says it would be "strongly opposed" to a "closed super league model", while the Football Supporters' Association said the plans were "motivated by nothing but cynical greed".

    Television pundits have also had their say, with former Manchester United captain Gary Neville saying on Sky Sports he is "absolutely disgusted" by the plans and suggesting the clubs should be docked points, while former team-mate Rio Ferdinand said on BT Sport that the proposals will hurt fans the most and that supporters are "not being considered".

    Bundesliga sides are opposed to the plans because the German model means commercial investors cannot have more than a 49% stake in clubs, so fans hold a majority of their own voting rights.

    Analysis
    BBC Sport's Simon Stone

    If there was any lingering doubt over the desire of these 12 clubs to launch their own competition, it has been removed by their statement - reinforced by each of them through their own media platforms.

    So many questions remain unanswered.

    Chiefly, can they actually get their plan over the line given the strong resistance from Uefa and the leagues and associations of the countries concerned?

    But beyond that, who will the other three clubs be to make up the 15 founding members? Will Bayern Munich and Qatar-backed Paris St Germain eventually join up as the alternative is impossible to comprehend?

    And how will the other five clubs be decided?

    These discussions will be fascinating. But they are not fundamental.

    Right now, the clubs have a public relations battle to turn around perceptions - because as the drip of speculation has turned into hard news about something happening, followed by a statement of confirmation, the reaction has been overwhelmingly negative.

    Unless they can articulate a plausible plan and turn public opinion their way, it will be a leap of faith to believe a famous footballing name alone can sell a product.
    Shalom

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    News just in - England's top clubs don't really give a to$$ what their fans want.



    Let them go, first on the boat can be those freak wheeler dealer owners at Old Trafford whose heads look like they were fashioned by five year olds using papier-mâché.

    We'd have fine clubs like Leicester and West Ham at the top of the premier 'league', and it would be a shot in the arm for clubs in the Championship and football league.

    Give it five years max and these overblown, self important wankers would be begging to be let back in.

    That's if they even genuinely intend to set this up in the first place, and it's more than just a move to get more money within the current arrangement.

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    ^ Your beloved Albion would still be a YOYO club

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    News just in - England's top clubs don't really give a to$$ what their fans want.



    Let them go, first on the boat can be those freak wheeler dealer owners at Old Trafford whose heads look like they were fashioned by five year olds using papier-mâché.

    We'd have fine clubs like Leicester and West Ham at the top of the premier 'league', and it would be a shot in the arm for clubs in the Championship and football league.

    Give it five years max and these overblown, self important wankers would be begging to be let back in.

    That's if they even genuinely intend to set this up in the first place, and it's more than just a move to get more money within the current arrangement.

    I hope it's the latter. Otherwise it's just a load of glorified friendlies innit.

    All of the clubs involved should be ejected from their leagues, and all the players banned from their national teams.

    But they probably won't be.

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    it will never happen.

    and mourinho has just been sacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    and all the players banned from their national teams.
    Haaza,

    That would be harsh given this isn't their decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strigils View Post
    Haaza,

    That would be harsh given this isn't their decision.
    Doesn't matter.

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    ^ OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    mourinho has just been sacked.
    Strange timing for that one.

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    Ooops see its already been posed about Mourinho

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    it will give them time to find a replacement for next season.

    the miserable fucker will trouser a hefty wad though.

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    ^ there was talk of over £30 Mil in Feb, its crackers

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    News just in - England's top clubs don't really give a to$$ what their fans want.



    Let them go, first on the boat can be those freak wheeler dealer owners at Old Trafford whose heads look like they were fashioned by five year olds using papier-mâché.

    We'd have fine clubs like Leicester and West Ham at the top of the premier 'league', and it would be a shot in the arm for clubs in the Championship and football league.

    Give it five years max and these overblown, self important wankers would be begging to be let back in.

    That's if they even genuinely intend to set this up in the first place, and it's more than just a move to get more money within the current arrangement.
    The leagues would fall apart. Nobody wants to watch Aston Villa v Everton. Apart from Aston Villa and Everton fans.

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