Rugby World Cup 2019

**AntRobertson** · 30-10-2019, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I did notice a hospitality section

So did I, at my place, somehow we've ended up with 21 people (incl. kids) coming to watch at ours.

Oh well not like I'll give too much of a fuck about the same I suppose so all good.

**Loy Toy** · 30-10-2019, 10:54 AM

One thing I have noticed, and my best mates are mainly British, that they, particularly the Poms take these games so seriously in fact I witnessed two English supporters actually crying tears of joy after they beat the Kiwis.
You walk into a British Pub and all the talk is about the final.
Anyway I hope the best team wins and I am going to put the mocker on the Poms and predict they will win the game by 12 points.

**AntRobertson** · 30-10-2019, 11:00 AM

Hansen giving some departing vets a run. No Whitelock is an interesting call...

All Blacks team for Bronze play-off:

1. Joe Moody (44)
2. Dane Coles (68)
3. Nepo Laulala (24)
4. Brodie Retallick (80)
5. Scott Barrett (35)
6. Shannon Frizell (8)
7. Sam Cane (67)
8. Kieran Read - captain (126)
9. Aaron Smith (91)
10. Richie Mo'unga (16)
11. Rieko Ioane (28)
12. Sonny Bill Williams (56)
13. Ryan Crotty (47)
14. Ben Smith (83)
15. Beauden Barrett (82)

Reserves:

16. Liam Coltman (7)
17. Atu Moli (7)
18. Angus Ta'avao (13)
19. Patrick Tuipulotu (29)
20. Matt Todd (24)
21. Brad Weber (4)
22. Anton Lienert-Brown (41)
23. Jordie Barrett (16)

**harrybarracuda** · 30-10-2019, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

One thing I have noticed, and my best mates are mainly British, that they, particularly the Poms take these games so seriously in fact I witnessed two English supporters actually crying tears of joy after they beat the Kiwis.
You walk into a British Pub and all the talk is about the final.
Anyway I hope the best team wins and I am going to put the mocker on the Poms and predict they will win the game by 12 points.

Boo will be along in a minute to confidently predict an England win. And defeat. And draw.

**David48atTD** · 30-10-2019, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Hansen giving some departing vets a run. No Whitelock is an interesting call...

All Blacks team for Bronze play-off:

Ant, how does that rate as close to a full strength team?

What is the AB's track record against Wales?

**Bettyboo** · 30-10-2019, 01:05 PM

New Zealand will win, Wales have a lot of injuries and limited depth.

England will win, we are the bloody dog's bolloks.

**AntRobertson** · 30-10-2019, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by David48atTD

Ant, how does that rate as close to a full strength team?

Near enough to it I suppose. I don't really think you could call any team selected from the WC squad a 'B' side to be fair.

Originally Posted by David48atTD

What is the AB's track record against Wales?

A bit one-sided... They haven't beaten us since 1953 and the last encounter was 33 - 18 (2017 in Wales).

**Bettyboo** · 30-10-2019, 01:09 PM

That would have been a better team to face England, IMHO...

**happynz** · 30-10-2019, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

All Blacks team for Bronze play-off:

1. Joe Moody (44)
2. Dane Coles (68)
3. Nepo Laulala (24)
4. Brodie Retallick (80)
5. Scott Barrett (35)
6. Shannon Frizell (8)
7. Sam Cane (67)
8. Kieran Read - captain (126)
9. Aaron Smith (91)
10. Richie Mo'unga (16)
11. Rieko Ioane (28)
12. Sonny Bill Williams (56)
13. Ryan Crotty (47)
14. Ben Smith (83)
15. Beauden Barrett (82)

Reserves:

16. Liam Coltman (7)
17. Atu Moli (7)
18. Angus Ta'avao (13)
19. Patrick Tuipulotu (29)
20. Matt Todd (24)
21. Brad Weber (4)
22. Anton Lienert-Brown (41)
23. Jordie Barrett (16)

Strong side, that. No TJ Perenara either. Hmm...Weber makes up for that as he has been excellent this whole year.

**Mendip** · 30-10-2019, 01:19 PM

Seems a bit harsh... every team good naturedly indulges New Zealand doing the haka, yet it seems you have to be very careful how you accept that challenge.

Rugby World Cup: England fined for crossing halfway line before New Zealand match

England have been fined a four-figure sum for crossing the halfway line as they lined up in a V formation to face the haka before their Rugby World Cup semi-final match against New Zealand.

World Rugby rules stipulate teams must remain within their own half of the pitch to receive the challenge.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/50229807

**AntRobertson** · 30-10-2019, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

That would have been a better team to face England, IMHO...

Maybe but who's to really say and I doubt it would've had much effect either way had England played the same anyways.

I'm legit starting to warm-up to this Bronze play-off game also. Obviously all involved would prefer it was the final but good chance we'll at least see two teams throwing caution to the wind and having a crack.

**AntRobertson** · 30-10-2019, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by happynz

Strong side, that. No TJ Perenara either. Hmm...Weber makes up for that as he has been excellent this whole year.

Noted that. I would've thought maybe Perenara to get the start and Weber on the bench (or vice-versa) in the name of letting the whole squad have a run but obviously not.

On further thought I'd say Taylor and Whitelock have been omitted simply due to the amount of rugby they've already played this season.

**David48atTD** · 30-10-2019, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

I'm legit starting to warm-up to this Bronze play-off game also.

I'm assuming that a few of the AB's are retiring after this game, so it would be good (for you) from that point of view to see them off.

I still remember when the AB's retired Richie McCaw in NZ @ Eden Park.

Was tempted to put the House on the KIWI's to win ... but ended up only wagering the front door

**harrybarracuda** · 30-10-2019, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Mendip

Seems a bit harsh... every team good naturedly indulges New Zealand doing the haka, yet it seems you have to be very careful how you accept that challenge.

Rugby World Cup: England fined for crossing halfway line before New Zealand match

England have been fined a four-figure sum for crossing the halfway line as they lined up in a V formation to face the haka before their Rugby World Cup semi-final match against New Zealand.

World Rugby rules stipulate teams must remain within their own half of the pitch to receive the challenge.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/50229807

Worth every penny to flick an enormous V at their dance routine.

**Bettyboo** · 30-10-2019, 03:04 PM

2,500 pounds is only a symbolic slap on the wrist; everyone appreciated the effort by England.

**Bettyboo** · 30-10-2019, 03:22 PM

Arranged my ticket pick up, starting to get excited about the trip. Two potential issues:

1) How to go from Narita to Yokohama (I'm hoping trains will be available from the airport) - British & SA flights don't arrive around the same time as mine, so transport shouldn't be 100% rammed/booked at that time. Arrive at 11am, wanna be in Yokohama by 14:30; it's a two hour train ride. The hospitality is at Yokohama Arena which is a 5 minute walk from Shin-Yokohama train station and 10 minutes from the stadium, so that should work perfectly at that end.

2) Should I make a plan from after the game hospitality closing (around 10pm ish) and being at the airport by 9am the next morning??? I'm thinking - go with the flow... Maybe pre-book an early train back to the airport and hope I can find an all-night party.

**armstrong** · 30-10-2019, 04:21 PM

Id get as humanly close to the airport as you can before getting pissed all night.

And stay in that area...

**David48atTD** · 30-10-2019, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

and hope I can find an all-night party.

Maybe a Plan B could be to have a RSA supporters shirt secreted away if, God forbid, England don't lift the Cup.

I'm a 'have a Plan B, just in-case' sort of guy

**panama hat** · 30-10-2019, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

England will win, we are the bloody dog's bolloks.

You're disgusting . . .

**Bettyboo** · 30-10-2019, 07:37 PM

^ that, Sir, is beauty at it's finest!

^^ we do not require a plan B off the field, we will win because Sir Eddie has an amazing plan A, B and C.

^^^ Armstrong, grow a pair!

(There's a dozen planes a day between Japan and Korea, it's close; I could probably swim back if I need to...

)

**Bettyboo** · 31-10-2019, 09:21 AM

I don't really agree with this:

I'd have: NZ no.1; England no.2; SA no.3.

If SA win and NZ win then I'd have: NZ no.1; SA no.2;England no.3.

If England and NZ win then I'd have: England no.1; NZ no.2; SA no.3. Wales no.4

If England and Wales win then I'd have England no.1; NZ no.2; SA/Wales == 3

In this WC, NZ already comfortably beat SA, so I don't see any reason why SA jump over them. Also, 1 win against NZ doesn't shoot England to number 1 because we beat an average/decent Australia and a poor Argentina (we also lost to Wales recently) - that's just not enough.

I don't like the way they do the rankings on 1 game. I could understand England/NZ being ==1 now, and England clear no.1 if they beat SA, but as we saw with Ireland and Wales being no.1 recently, it's kinda silly - maybe doing the rankings every 3 months, and certainly not until the end of the WC...

**AntRobertson** · 31-10-2019, 09:23 AM

The whole rankings system is a bit, well, weird.

Both Ireland and Wales were #1 during this tournament.

**Bettyboo** · 31-10-2019, 10:24 AM

No changes in the starting 15 or bench - happy with that...

**armstrong** · 31-10-2019, 03:55 PM

Booked a few tables at a lower Sukhumvit pub to watch it. Could get messy.

**harrybarracuda** · 31-10-2019, 04:21 PM

England have named an unchanged side for the final.

Bring it on you antelope shaggers.

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