Thread: The Lions Are Coming

Ref cheated

I wouldn't go that far mate.

He definitely bottled it though. If there had been a hole on the field he would've been hiding in it.

That being said I've never had confidence in French refs. It's the language barrier or something, they just never seem to be consistent and coherent with their decisions.

Kiss his bum#

he cheated

That was a piss poor performance from a team that is supposed to be world champions, full of mistakes, five penalties given away in kickable positions to one the ball dropped or knocked on missed chances and a yellow card.

Last week they had an excuse playing most of the game one man down no excuses this week.

Who were the big improvers not the AB's thats for sure from 10 penalties given away last week to one this week the Lions got their discipline right the AB"s didnt.

Regardless of the score the Lions won the game and the series simply because the AB"s didnt.

Over and out of here for a week hope the world has improved when I get back.

Originally Posted by birding

That was a piss poor performance from a team that is supposed to be world champions, full of mistakes, five penalties given away in kickable positions to one the ball dropped or knocked on missed chances and a yellow card.

Last week they had an excuse playing most of the game one man down no excuses this week.

Who were the big improvers not the AB's thats for sure from 10 penalties given away last week to one this week the Lions got their discipline right the AB"s didnt.

Regardless of the score the Lions won the game and the series simply because the AB"s didnt.

Over and out of here for a week hope the world has improved when I get back.

^How many games did the lions lose on tour?

If you are of the mind set that the Lions won regardless of the score, then that is a problem that you guys have.

Won.......My arse.......Only a pommie would think that way.

The Lions were not a good team as the performamces have shown over the whole tour just the All Blacks did their choking thing in the final test. Haven't looked at the stats but the handling errors must have been in double figures or close to it. Normally they'd have been out of sight by half time but uncharacteristically butchered numerous chances. Gatland who I don't rate as a coach is going back to Wales till the WC2019 then I really hope he becomes AB coach as your world domination will end while he's in charge. But i presume kiwis will see sense and never appoint him. Wales wont finish in top half of 6n table next 2 years before WC.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Wales wont finish in top half of 6n table next 2 years before WC.

I have never liked Gatland. This tour has given me a grudging respect for him and his team building ethos, and getting the best out of a pretty disparate bunch that often lacked flair players.
That is down to professionalism and current NH tactics and coaching. The fact that Wales will probably not trouble the six nations title for a while, is more down to the outside half factory closing down along with the pits and the steelworks. In the 60's and 70's Welsh rugby was regarded in a similar way to the way Kiwis see it now.
That has fook all to do with Gatland's success or failure, more a sign of the times.
As long as NZ has good farming stock, lumberjacks and mountain men, and the Maori, they will continue to produce quality Rugby. The schools system and academies obviously helps too.
Even Gatland could coach a winning side out of that lot.

Wales like Ireland have 4 teams in the pro12 compared to Scotland and Italy's 2. Gatland did do well but he hasn't evolved, he hasn't moved with the times as in he still plays the same warrenball rugby with nothing else to offer and while successful in years gone by and he was blessed with a good crop of players those days are gone and when even lowly Scotland can give you a lesson you should know your days are numbered. Wales and Italy will be fighting over the wooden spoon in 6N.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Wales like Ireland have 4 teams in the pro12 compared to Scotland and Italy's 2. Gatland did do well but he hasn't evolved, he hasn't moved with the times as in he still plays the same warrenball rugby with nothing else to offer and while successful in years gone by and he was blessed with a good crop of players those days are gone and when even lowly Scotland can give you a lesson you should know your days are numbered. Wales and Italy will be fighting over the wooden spoon in 6N.

Whoosh!

Originally Posted by buriramboy

The Lions were not a good team as the performamces have shown over the whole tour just the All Blacks did their choking thing in the final test. Haven't looked at the stats but the handling errors must have been in double figures or close to it. Normally they'd have been out of sight by half time but uncharacteristically butchered numerous chances. Gatland who I don't rate as a coach is going back to Wales till the WC2019 then I really hope he becomes AB coach as your world domination will end while he's in charge. But i presume kiwis will see sense and never appoint him. Wales wont finish in top half of 6n table next 2 years before WC.

Choking thing..... my fucking arse. Lions played well.....without Scotland. Who would have thought.....They were certainly a shite load ahead of where Scotland would be.

Gatland got a group of Brits together that normally hate each other and made them as one. I don't know of anybody else that could have done that.Certainly, no Scottish people.They also drew with the world champs. That's right....THE WORLD CHAMPS!


Get rid of your bias, son.

Players on both sides looked a bit lost at the end. Disappointed not to have won such a contest.
I realize I am biased but I think the Lions will come away with the most credit from this result.
NZ are World Champions and nearly came unstuck. They don't normally let sides off the hook when they are on top of their game. So many chances went begging because of fumbled ball or knock ons. Too many occasions when there was a 2 on 1 overlap that never got used. Most uncharacteristic.
Lions adapted well in the second half but still kicked away too much possession. AB's normally capitalise on that.

The Lions forced those All Black mistakes through great defense. Frustrated the hell of the best attacking team in the world.

The SBW sending off seems to me to be the turning point of the series.

The All Blacks seemed to be cruising at that stage.

A fitting result although I hate draws.

Draws are utter shit aren't they. I don't think anyone can take anything out of this.

The Lions won only five from 10, lead the series for only three minutes out of 240, and for their part the ABs played like shit and blew however many chances they had to win.

The Lions Are Coming - and now they will be on their way home. Only another 12 years to wait for a crack at them.

Great suggestion in some match report I read today, (Grauniad) let the AB's play this lot again under the Babas banner this autumn?

It was also clear to me that Read hit the LIONS player in the back whilst he was in the air when he was attempting to catch the kick off. At no time did Read attempt to play the ball. His sole goal was to disrupt the catching of the ball which he achieved when the player knocked on.

When the ref blew the whistle I thought it was to penalize Read which would have put the Lions deep into attack with a few minutes remaining.

The yellow card was a farce also for Kaeno as the forearm was not intentional. The ref also claimed it was not intentional but still gave him a yellow card including the penalty. Rubbish.

Another penalty which equaled the score for the Lions for a high tackle was no where near a high tackle. Rubbish.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

The yellow card was a farce also for Kaeno as the forearm was not intentional. The ref also claimed it was not intentional but still gave him a yellow card including the penalty. Rubbish.

I'm not up with Unions rules.

But I half remember hearing the commentary that the Yellow Card was not at the discretion of the Ref.

Contact with the head of the opponent (maybe in a striking motion) is a 'cardable' offense.

Anyone offer clarity?

The record books will not show any of this conjecture At least Hansen has accepted the result because he knows it won't change, no matter what he says.

A rather prescient Brian Moore, before the game.
Brian Moore: Third test set to come down to a moment of genius - NZ Herald

Originally Posted by David48atTD

ormer international referee Jonathan Kaplan has echoed Lions coach Warren Gatland's view that Kieran Read should have been
penalised before the controversial call to deny the All Blacks a potentially match-winning penalty in the series decider.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

It was also clear to me that Read hit the LIONS player in the back whilst he was in the air when he was attempting to catch the kick off. At no time did Read attempt to play the ball.

Funnily enough, at the restart the ball went up, Reid charged into Williams in the air, the whistle blew and my stream locked up for about two minutes. I was anxious because I presumed that we got a penalty, kicked to touch and were rolling a maul towards their tryline then back for a Sexton drop goal to win the series...

...when the stream came back and the Kiwis had a scrum penalty for accidental offside it seemed very weird indeed.

Anyways, we are where we are, both teams had 3 games to get the upper hand and neither managed to do so.

Still left with a hollow feeling from the draw.

Kinda ironic that the series was decided by two last minute penalties - one that was and one that wasn't but should've been. But that's sport I suppose although there is a wider issue that rugby has with referring and a convoluted rule book that needs to be addressed.

Anyways, the AB's had their chances in that game and bombed them so no doubt they'll be blaming no one other than themselves.

Again, looking in as an outsider, I was surprised that while the opportunity presented itself many times, no Field Goals were attempted by NZ.

Several times, just before 1/2 and Full-Time they were in position ... but they didn't.

Pride?

Attack only mentality?

I do believe it cost them the match.

http://video.dailymail.co.uk/video/m...5960287824.mp4