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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    So how can Citeh cheat and just get banned in the EU surely they should be banned from all comps, its not fair that they keep all their players they cheated getting and then only have to play in domestic comps. Can't be right Chitty?
    I think the minimum is a relegation to where they belong: the Championship. We should really be pushing for exclusion from all competitions though together with a 30 point deduction from the start of their season in the old 2nd Division.

    In a few years the nearby ASDA will take over the Emptyhad and the bent little club will be nothing more than a memory of the crooked days of the past when the nouveau riche got a bit too full of themselves. Chelsea and PSG next, please.

    Lovely.

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    ^^^ Cloughy would not have joined in the first place; he'd not put up with Sand Monkeys, Poofs with Bleached Hair and wankers scoring doing that pathetic badge kissing and making hearts out of the wee pinkies.

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    Never mind Chitty, if the appeal fails you can join next years Tunnocks caramel wafer/ Irn- bru cup up here.

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    Word of the day: schadenfreude.


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    ^ Jack is there a Scottish version of the Fantasy Footy League ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Word of the day: schadenfreude.
    I reckon Chitty will be looking that up in his cookbook and knocking up and angry recipe or two later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    I reckon Chitty will be looking that up in his cookbook and knocking up and angry recipe or two later.
    "Schadenfreude fusion tapas from Hell's Kitchen."

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    is there a Scottish version of the Fantasy Footy League ?
    Ladbrokes Premiership Fantasy Football

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    Then theres being able to put Foden in your fantasy team with no bald fraud rotating rhe side every fucking game.

    And enjoying weeknights listening to your Scouse workmates singing You'll never Walk Alone and 6 then 7 and We won it 8 times

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    "Schadenfreude fusion tapas from Hell's Kitchen."

    Mmm i think more like Dauphinoise Potatoes began before he pops to the pub which will be married several hours later to a Chicago Town stuffed crust spicy meatball pizza upon return, with peas of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack meoff View Post
    Bang that up next season Jack, i see you have to select two teams, Dill won't be happy with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang View Post
    this is payback by the elite clubs who hate Manchester City.
    Agree.


    It's the number of European cup finals that really upset the elite, and put them into action.

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    You bunch of twats!

    Some amusing Red Rag Rant shite out there if you've got a sense of humour.....





    Plenty of bandwidth been wasted in South London recently

    Can't believe we're not going to be in the Champions league, starting to understand how the rags have been feeling. At least we're not out because we're shit.





    By Michael Long
    The Decision
    By now, everyone in the world who has an interest in football, and a considerable number of those who do not, have learned that UEFA handed down a 2 year ban from all European competitions to Manchester City. There are at least 3 reasons why this raised more than just an arched eyebrow.
    Most recently, respected journalist Sam Lee of The Athletic had assured most of us that a ban would not be forthcoming.
    “It [the information] was very well sourced, from several people close to the case on different sides.
    City (and other related parties) felt there would be no ban.”
    The fact that Aleksander Čeferin was allegedly pleading with City to take a slap on the wrist and cop to a technical breach right up until very recently was another cause for confidence.
    Furthermore, negative speculation certainly did not prevent private equity firm Silver Lake from investing 500m in the City group only a couple of months ago.
    However Lee goes on to speculate that something out of leftfield must have happened in the last month to cause UEFA to change trajectory. In any case, City seem fully prepared:
    “For a year now they’ve been planning a big appeal just in case. They’ll go with everything. They’ve been collecting all their evidence/counter-points the whole way through. Info on other clubs’ business dealings, info on Uefa procedures, similar cases etc. So it’ll be a big appeal…. I think the appeal will drag on for long enough it’ll be the last year of Pep’s contract anyway. As for the players… I think some would have thought about it when Pep goes anyway…”
    The Response
    One thing that is not often observed about football journalists is that they are (mostly) all football fans. Can you imagine being a Gen X or even Boomer Liverpool or Manchester United supporter watching on from the drama of 93:20 right through to the end of last season?
    A once small and laughable comedy club is purchased by a deep-pocketed foreign benefactor and before long the silverware begins rolling in. United fans must reluctantly put their ‘tick-tock’ banner in the bin whilst the Anfield contingent are reduced to bricking and bottling City’s bus bringing the ‘noisy neighbours’ to their stadium.
    In the event of even the most trivial City setback, Twitter feeds around the world get lit up with shameless glee and not all of them are millennials hacking away at worn-out keyboards from the dark recesses of small bedrooms and basements.
    What we have seen in the last 24 hours following the announcement is clear evidence that a degree in journalism from a regional university and a slightly larger vocabulary than others does not make much essential difference to the content of many of the observations on view.
    One example of this is the almost continuous use of the word ‘leak’ rather than ‘theft’ or ‘hack’ when referring to the work of Rui Pinto, the individual who sourced Der Spiegel and who now languishes in a Portuguese jail for doing, well, pretty much the same kind of thing on his own home soil.
    Amid all the sensationalism surrounding the potential ramifications of the ban on City, there has been a marked reluctance to get real by the scribes.
    Nothing can or will happen to City until the appeal process is exhausted. And it may be longer than you might think.
    We have been assured by the venerable fourth estate that the appeal will be concluded before the start of next season but this is unlikely to be true because it is simply not in City’s interests for a number of reasons and let’s not forget that the club are legally entitled to challenge any unsuccessful appeal to CAS even further upward – right up to the doors of the Swiss Supreme Court.
    If this happens, then we could be looking at a least a year and possibly more of protracted legal dispute. Until the case is definitively settled, the following possibilities that City fans might fear are cast in a very different light.
    Adios Guardiola? / Mass Player Exodus? / Fire Sale?
    Makes no sense whatsoever. Notwithstanding the Catalan’s repeated assurances to the contrary, Guardiola will almost certainly still be in the Champions League AND in the last year of his contract before any ban comes into effect for the following season due to the aforementioned two avenues of appeal that City possess. I simply ask all reasonable readers to ask themselves if the man (Khaldoon Al Mubarak) who has apparently threatened to hire an army of the world’s top lawyers to sue UEFA is likely to brook any form of surrender.
    Guardiola is therefore extremely unlikely to have to go without Champions League football whilst he is at City.
    All the talk of which 5th placed team gets to dance on City’s Euro corpse next season seems similarly absurd for the same reasons.
    Likewise, any City player in his final or even penultimate season will also be unaffected. The fact that David Silva, Leroy Sané, Claudio Bravo and possibly Nicolas Otamendi are set to leave anyway should be born in mind. For Sané, even a potential future ban is almost certainly a clincher. Conversely Phil Foden, Eric Garcia and maybe even Jayden Braaf may do well to conceal crocodile tears.
    Why are City so confident?
    According to Sam Lee, any review of similar cases adjudicated by CAS reveals one clear insight. They put a lot of stock in consistency and precedent. The fact that Mr. Leterme let PSG escape a ban for just what City are accused of (falsely inflating sponsorship deals) and this despite independent scrutiny of those deals contradicting PSG’s valuations gives cause for confidence. Consequently even if it could be demonstrated that City did indeed employ creative accounting to put one over on the bureaucrats, the PSG case shows that Leterme & Co are not using equal weights and measures. Why not?
    The answer to this question gets to the heart of the issue as pointed out by Martin Samuel in The Daily Mail:
    “It is possible to acknowledge City’s wrongdoing but still hold nothing but contempt for the system that has found them guilty. For the secret briefings, the pressure placed on UEFA to ring-fence their primary competition for the select few. Financial fair play was corrupted from birth by those at the top, warped into the most naked protectionism. It was supposed to be about debt, but ended up placing limitations on owner investment. A club loaded with debt, like Manchester United, is fully compliant; a club without debt, like City, is not.”
    In the coming weeks and months, oceans of journalistic ink will be spilt on the reddest of red herrings. What a 2 year ban will mean for City, the club, its coach, its players and its sponsors. Every worst-case scenario in each of these areas will prove the flub for dozens of theatrical headlines accompanied by out of context pics of Pep looking depressed after a missed goal attempt. However the reality is likely to be far more humdrum. UEFA get to temporarily look tough. CAS overrule them. UEFA have plausible deniability and can look Messrs. Gill, Parry, Agnelli & Al-Khelaifi in the eye with sincere “did our best, lads” conviction and we all get to watch some football again.
    This is the most compelling theory behind what has happened in the last 24 hours. If not, the alternative is likely to be very costly for UEFA and not merely in a financial sense. If Leterme et al really do wish to go toe to toe with Al Mubarak, the latter may very well decide to sue UEFA to its foundation for violation of Anti-Competition legislation.
    This would be their worst nightmare.







    MANCHESTER UNITED defender Jaap Stam has caused a further stir in his autobiography by claiming that Sir Alex Ferguson encouraged his side to dive in an attempt to earn penalties when playing in Europe.

    The Dutchman says that the English players in the squad found it hard to adopt the policy of going to ground easily, but that Ferguson believed that it was fair game on the continent.
    "It's got to the stage where he has even told us: 'Don't try and stay on your feet if you're in the box and get a slight kick," Stam revealed in his autobiography being serialised in the Mirror.


    "He wants us to copy other sides we face in European competitions and go down to win a penalty.
    "Far too often English players seem determined to keep running after getting a whack on the leg, even though the chance to get a shot in has gone.
    "I don't think diving has caught on with the English youngsters yet, as their fair-play mentality stops them from taking a tumble.
    "Coaches at academy levels are honest and would stamp out that kind of cheating from their team.
    Stam says that he does not advocate diving, as he is often penalised as a result of a forward going to ground under one of his challenges.
    "I admit to becoming frustrated by the frequency of diving in the Champions League.
    "Players from Holland and Scandinavia aren't divers, but those from Spain and Italy go down far too easily for my liking.
    "Even players in Germany are used to taking a dive. In all those countries it looks like they have been brought up with it since their schooldays.
    "It's tricky for me to take a dive, though. If I fall down under the slightest kick, I'm going to look stupid falling down like I've been shot."

    https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/2215755/fergie-told-us-to-dive-stam?fbclid=IwAR2mHKrfQsAQbMSWA4XkbfZxHqfXHZakRBqb OS70nebZOsxMM5TFFU0AcFI

    WE ARE CITY!
    WE FIGHT TO THE END!


    WE ARE CITY!
    WE FIGHT TO THE END!







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    We demand a "Last Year at the Top" meal.

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    Barry ain't half packing a lunchbox.



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    It’s not quite as complex as the journos make out.
    City did break the rules and they were found out. I have some sympathy that City feel aggrieved at being presumed guilty, investigated and punished by UEFA, themselves a corrupt organisation, who see nothing wrong with marking their own homework.
    Thats as far as it goes for me. They did massage the sponsorships creatively, in order to disguise income.

    Guily as charged. I agree that City are peeved with the result, and while they have deep pockets and top lawyers, they could spin this out.
    Eventually, they will pay for their transgressions, and rightly so.
    This is where UEFA have been clever. By making it two years, they give CAS the option to uphold the verdict, but reduce the sentence.
    The CAS has a fair reputation for impartiality as an independent arbiter. They nearly always get it right, unlike that fat cunter Samuel, who aways puts his own ideas first.
    It might drag on for a bit, but when they are found guilty, City will still be punished with exclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack meoff View Post
    Barry ain't half packing a lunchbox.



    Nah, he's just shit his nappy

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    I think the minimum is a relegation to where they belong: the Championship. We should really be pushing for exclusion from all competitions though together with a 30 point deduction from the start of their season in the old 2nd Division.

    In a few years the nearby ASDA will take over the Emptyhad and the bent little club will be nothing more than a memory of the crooked days of the past when the nouveau riche got a bit too full of themselves. Chelsea and PSG next, please.

    Lovely.
    I think you should peel yourself of your piss stained armchair and go fvck off to the bathroom and take your face for a shit☺

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    So i didn't dream it. That's Pep gone and half the team by the close of next season.
    Fake news!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Nothing you've won counts. You've cheated your way to everything.
    You're a cvnt!
    FUCK off!

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I've been telling you all along chitty that your dirty cheating sheikh was funnelling his people's money out of the country under the guise of "sponsorship".

    Basically this tinpot club is just a massive money laundering vehicle and nothing you've won has been earned.

    If Cloughy had joined your club he would have told the players to chuck all their medals in the bin where they belong.

    Talk to the hand you hasbeen Gunner bag of shite, fvck off!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    Look on the bright side Chitty,


    No more weeknight 40 mile commutes to sit on your own in a cold empty seated Arab named stadium with no history.

    No chance of prima donnas like Lionel Messi signing and back to the good old days of buying local players of Paul Dickoff's ilk.

    No more boring the shite out of us with your losing quadruple bets
    Fvck off twat!

    Put you glasses back on or you'll never be able to find Hals maggot penis for a five finger shuffle.

    Load of fvcking wronguns.

    Oh and Cryall ...
    ECHO OFF YOU BORING TEST!
    you're only saving grace is that WBA will replace Villa in the EPL next season

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    REVEALED: Manchester City's Premier League title in 2014 is now UNDER THREAT with potential backdated points deduction - and Raheem Sterling, Kevin De Bruyne and Aymeric Laporte could be sold
    Manchester City will have to restructure their finances completely, potentially leading to the sale of leading players such as Raheem Sterling, Kevin De Bruyne and Aymeric Laporte, if the Court of Arbitration for Sport upholds the two-year ban from the Champions League imposed by UEFA's Club Financial Control Body.

    City also face the possibility of being stripped of their Premier League title won in 2014 if a separate Premier League investigation were to find that they had breached financial rules, which City deny
    But in the separate Premier League inquiry, City have yet to be charged and the governing body have issued no comment, even though there has been speculation about a points deduction this season, which would now be largely meaningless.

    If City are charged, the Premier League rule book allows a commission to deduct points retrospectively, which would impact on City's positions in the seasons affected.

    Though not confirmed by the Premier League, the period under investigation would appear to be from 2012 to 2016, as that is the when UEFA's CFCB says that City overstated their sponsorship income.

    It is unclear whether it would cover City's 2012 Premier League title win though it would cover the 2014 win.

    City will not receive any sympathy from the other 19 Premier League clubs, many of whom stand to benefit from City being permanently weakened.
    Premier League rules are less stringent than UEFA's, allowing losses of £105million over three seasons but rely on the figures submitted by the clubs.

    City have insisted all their submissions were accurate but UEFA's CFCB say sponsorship revenue was 'overstated'.

    Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp admitted he was stunned at news of the ban. 'It was a shock,' he said.

    'Complete wow. What they have done on the pitch is exceptional. The rest, I don't know. You believe the people you work with. I feel for them. They can appeal so we will see what happens then. It is obviously serious.'

    City are likely to face a D-Day in court this summer, with proceeding needing to be done before July 23, when the Europa League starts for the lowest qualified English club.

    Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp offered his sympathy and support to Manchester City

    City also cannot be sure whether UEFA's CFCB will approve their budgets going forward if CAS agree they have previously overstated income, so they will be unsure as to how much they can spend. It could lead to a player exodus and ex-England star and BT pundit Jermaine Jenas said: 'From a player's point of view... that's not my fault as a player…

    'Now you're telling me my ability to play in the Champions League is taken away from me for the next two years. I don't see how the fans could blame them personally for walking away.'
    NICK HARRIS ON CITY'S LOSSES
    Manchester City face large financial losses if CAS uphold UEFA's two-year European ban and deprive them of Champions League income.

    A financial squeeze would restrict their ability to buy and pay players, leading to an almost inevitable decline in the quality of their squad — and results.

    This is just one ramification of the ban, with UEFA citing 'serious breaches' of Financial Fair Play (FFP) rules up to 2016 and City's failure to cooperate with an investigation.

    City's most recent financial accounts, for the 2018-19 season, show revenue of £535million and a small profit of £10.1m. But those revenues included about £100m from the Champions League, comprised of £86m in prize cash from UEFA, plus match day and hospitality income from five home CL matches of more than £10m. Other commercial income related to Europe was also included.

    Losing out on that £100m would have led to a £90m loss. The impact would be similar if a ban is in force for 2020-21, but intensify if a ban ran to two years.

    City have also been handed a €30m (£25m) fine, which they will appeal.

    If City post losses from next season, they could fall foul of FFP again – for spending more than they earn. The simplest remedy would be to sell players, which would raise income and cut a wage bill that stood at £315m last season.

    A two-year ban would raise the prospect of manager Pep Guardiola leaving, while the club's best players might also consider their futures.

    Whether some of City's major 'global partners', including Puma and Nissan, would seek to renegotiate terms is not known. For a club of their size, City earn an unusually high sum from commercial income: last season it was £229m — much higher than rivals Liverpool (£186m) and Chelsea (£185m), both 'bigger' clubs who have won the Champions League and have larger global fanbases.

    City's commercial income is so large because £130m comes from sponsors based in the UAE, where club owner Sheik Mansour has huge influence on City's partners. Etihad alone is believed to pay £80m a year to sponsor City's shirts and campus, while telecoms firm Etislat pay about £16.5m and Visit Abu Dhabi £19.75m.

    The Korean tyre firm Nexen pay £10m a year to be City's sleeve sponsor, having entered into a 'strategic partnership' with the UAE's sovereign wealth fund Mubadala.

    Documents published by German magazine Der Spiegel last year indicated that in 2015 Etihad was, in fact, only paying £8m towards a then £67.5m annual deal with City, while Mansour was topping up the other £59.5m himself. If confirmed as accurate, that would breach FFP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack meoff View Post
    Never mind Chitty, if the appeal fails you can join next years Tunnocks caramel wafer/ Irn- bru cup up here.
    They could do what Qatar does and pay for the African Women's Under-17 World Cup to be played at the Plastic Stadium, so their fans can still experience the thrill of overseas football. They probably wouldn't notice the difference.

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