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    Quote Originally Posted by prawnograph
    13 Anton Lienert-Brown, 12 Ryan Crotty
    Interesting!
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    23 Damian McKenzie
    Interestingerrrrr!!

    Wish they'd give Sopoaga a start. Probably felt they've already made enough changes though.

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    SA 18 Wallabies 10

    Wallabies put in a good 15 minutes at the start, ahead 10-3, but that was it, despite territory and possession in second half, failed to score anything for 65 minutes. Only points in second half to SA in 76th and 79th minute.

    Next week Argentina have a "home" match v Wallabies at Twickenham, SA a home match v All Blacks

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    AB's win again :

    The All Blacks have beaten Argentina 36-17 in their Rugby Championship Test in Buenos Aires, scoring five tries to two.

    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sport/rugb...EuB?li=BBqdg4K

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    Rugby: Stats show All Blacks Rugby Championship dominance

    By Sam Hewat

    8:11 AM Monday Oct 3, 2016


    The All Blacks dominance in the Rugby Championship is no surprise, and is further illustrated through a number of incredible stats. Photo / Photosport

    Tick off the Rugby Championship and the Bledisloe.

    Now, the only thing left to achieve for the All Blacks in 2016 is a new world record and a sweep of Europe.

    Their current streak of 16 wins on the trot doesn't even look close to coming to an end. Not even Argentina, potentially the second best team going around right now, could come within 10 points.

    Winning, and winning big, has become the norm with some Kiwi fans turning their noses up at a near 20-point victory.

    But just how have the other teams fared? We take a look at the stats to show just how ridiculously good the All Blacks are.

    Points Differential
    Not surprisingly, the All Blacks lead the Rugby Championship table for points differential with +136.

    But perhaps more incredible, is the fact that none of the other three teams have a positive figure.

    South Africa sit on -21, Australia on -40 and Argentina on -75, meaning unless South Africa beat the All Blacks by 22 or more, or Australia trump the Pumas by 40+, only one team will finish the Rugby Championship with a positive points differential.

    29 plays 26
    The All Blacks have not only out-scored their individual opponents, they've also outscored everyone combined.

    They've notched up a total of 29 tries in the Rugby Championship with the three other teams only combining for 26.

    Crotty, Smith, and Savea
    It's a three way tie for the top try scorer in 2016, each one of them an All Black.

    Ryan Crotty, Ben Smith and Julian Savea each have four tries a piece and, with Israel Dagg on three, are making the backline prove more valuable than ever.

    However, what's more interesting is the fact that Crotty, Smith, and Savea have more tries between them (12) than any of the other individual teams.

    Australia and Argentina have scored nine, while the Springboks have scored eight.

    41-14
    The All Blacks have played five games so far in the Rugby Championship.

    Their average points per game is 41, meanwhile their points against is just 14.

    Only Argentina has scored more than 14.

    2011
    Ben Smith's try in the 44th minute against the Pumas would be the last points the All Blacks scored in Sunday morning's test.

    For a team that prides itself on exploding in the last 20 minutes, that stat seems out of place.

    And it most certainly is.

    You have to cast your mind all the way back to August, 2011, to find the All Blacks earliest "last point."

    In a Tri-Nations match against the Springboks, Richard Kahui scored the All Blacks last points in the 35th minute.

    21 minutes
    The All Blacks have played 400 minutes of rugby so far in the Rugby Championship.

    Beauden Barrett has only missed 21 of those minutes.

    - NZ Herald

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    Woe is us!

    Will no one rid us of these meddlesome All Bleks?

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    Got my Argentina shirt nicely ironed......

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    Coincidentally that's what happened to the Argentinian team* *Boom-tish!*















    *for a period of about 10 min in the first-half.

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    I remember this well.

    My initial thought/reaction at the time is that it was one of the Bokke forwards having a go at the ref - sort of a corner of the eye thing at first.

    Flashback: One of the most bizarre incidents in rugby history

    By Sam Warlow

    12:30 PM Wednesday Oct 5, 2016


    Springbok supporter Pieter Van Zyl is removed from the field by officials after assaulting Irish referee David McHugh. Photo / Getty Images

    As the All Blacks prepare to take on the Springboks in Durban this weekend, we look back at one of the most bizarre events world rugby has ever seen.

    The event took place in Durban 2002 and starred one fresh faced Richie McCaw, one unfortunate David McHugh and one crazed Springbok fan.

    The All Blacks, coming off a loss to Australia the week before, were looking to rebound against South Africa and clinch the 2002 Tri Nations title in front of 52,000 raging fans.

    Despite the game being a tense encounter not decided until the final ten minutes, it will forever be remembered for one shocking incident involving one of those crazed 52,000.

    What happened?



    A lasting memory from this game was the attack on Irish referee David McHugh.

    Early in the second half, drunken South African spectator Pieter van Zyl was unhappy with McHugh's decision making, and decided to take matters into his own hands.

    McHugh had earlier awarded the All Blacks a penalty try after a high tackle on Tana Umaga, and denied a South African try to Breyton Paulse after an interference call on James Dalton.

    Van Zyl clearly took exception, and as a scrum was set he charged onto the field, straight towards McHugh.

    The big beer-bellied South African, donning a Springbok jersey a couple of sizes too small, grabbed McHugh and wrestled him to the ground.

    Richie McCaw, in just his ninth test match, was among the first to react. He grabbed van Zyl and along with a couple of Springboks dragged the offender from the scene.

    Former Herald rugby editor Wynne Gray was at the ground:

    "It was weird because I was probably writing some notes and looked up and saw this geezer running onto the field and thinking 'what are the security blokes doing?'.

    "And next thing I see was Richie thumping him, the only actual violence McCaw has done on the field in his career of course, and you're looking around going 'What the hell is going on here'?.

    "It defied belief really. You could understand people getting on the field but you'd think they would not get too far. But here was a guy who is not exactly the most svelte athlete of all time, who has managed to waddle halfway across the field and get to all the players. That was the most dumfounding piece about the whole thing.

    "Some of the most bizarre stuff I've ever seen on a rugby field."

    The aftermath
    The game was delayed for ten minutes while van Zyl was taken from the field with a bloody nose by security and police.

    McHugh was left with a dislocated shoulder and had to be taken from the field.

    43-year-old van Zyl was subsequently banned by the South African Rugby Union from attending any matches under their control. He was fined 3000 rand and charged with assault to do grievous bodily harm and trespassing.

    McCaw later spoke about the handling of the incident.

    "I don't know whether I dealt with it properly but certainly a couple of the South Africans did," said McCaw. "He got what he deserved."

    All Blacks second-five Aaron Mauger said the pitch invasion made a few of his teammates feel uneasy at the time.

    "It had a few of the boys looking over their shoulders for about 10 minutes,'' Mauger said.

    "We didn't want anybody running up and getting a dagger in the back or anything like that. The boys were a bit worried for a wee bit but once we got back into the game it didn't really have too much effect on us."

    All Blacks coach John Mitchell did not comment on the incident, other than calling Van Zyl an "idiot''.

    The actual game was eventually won by the All Blacks 30-23, after a converted try in the final ten minutes broke a 23-23 deadlock and sealed victory.

    After the game Inspector Michael Read said a debriefing of all interested parties would be held in Durban to establish how van Zyl gained access to the field while the game was in progress.

    Van Zyl was unrepentant, saying "don't forget that the incident happened when the referee closed his one eye and ceased to see the Springboks".

    The incident was labelled the "ugliest moment in South African rugby history'' by South African media.

    Where are they now?
    The famous game was McCaw's ninth test match after making his debut the previous November. He'd go onto play 139 more tests for the All Blacks, 110 as captain as he became the most capped player in international rugby history.

    McCaw retired in 2015 after winning four Super Rugby titles and leading the All Blacks to Rugby World Cup glory in 2011 and 2015.

    A film about McCaw's life, called Chasing Great, was released in September 2016 and broke the box office record for the highest grossing opening weekend for a New Zealand documentary.

    McHugh continued to referee test matches for another two years until he announced his retirement in 2004, having taken charge of 29 tests. He's currently the Referee Development & Coaching Manager at the Irish Rugby Union.

    As for van Zyl, one can assume his lifetime ban still stands, after South African Rugby CEO Rian Oberholzer said in 2002 "I guarantee that the person who committed the attack will never again attend a rugby match in South Africa."​

    Funnily enough there will be another Piet van Zyl in Durban this weekend, but this time he is supposed to be there. Bulls halfback Piet van Zyl has been called into the Springboks squad as cover with Rudy Paige ruled out.

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    Recent epics: All Blacks v South Africa

    9:13 AM Wednesday Oct 5, 2016


    All Blacks replacement back Beauden Barrett celebrates his try with Dane Coles during the 2015 Rugby World Cup semifinal. Photo / Brett Phibbs

    The All Blacks face the Springboks in Durban on Sunday as the world champions look to continue their fine run in 2016.

    Facing the ;Boks in South Africa is no easy task and looks to be the biggest challenge facing the All Blacks this season. The Herald looks back on five recent clashes between the two sides that became instant classics.

    2009 Tri Nations: South Africa 32 New Zealand 29


    Victor Matfield with a South African flag after his side's 2009 victory in Hamilton. Photo / Sarah Ivey

    The last time the All Blacks were defeated on home soil, a streak that has now turned into 44 straight victories. Both sides scored two tries while All Blacks first five-eighth Daniel Carter landed seven-from-seven shots at goal.

    But his return from injury fell short of the combined goalkicking prowess of Springboks first five-eighth Morne Steyn and fullback Francois Steyn, the latter of whom unleashed three booming penalties in the first spell.

    Morne Steyn put the Boks up 32-22 with 10 minutes remaining before All Blacks skipper Richie McCaw gave his side some hope with a try in the 78th minute. South Africa held on however for their ninth win over the All Blacks in New Zealand. It completed a three-test sweep over the All Blacks in 2009 following victories in Bloemfontein and Durban and secured the Springboks' third Tri-Nations title.

    2010 Tri Nations: New Zealand 29, South Africa 22


    Israel Dagg scores the winning try for the All Blacks. Photo / Getty

    After a Tri Nations start that included three home wins and victory against the Wallabies in Melbourne, the true test for the 2010 All Blacks was how they would do in the white-hot atmosphere of 94,000 fans at FNB Stadium in Soweto.

    The All Blacks' 14th straight win looked unlikely after Dan Carter missed a penalty from a handy position while trailing 22-17 with eight minutes remaining but Richie McCaw tied the match up a few minutes later with a controversial try. Then with time almost up Ma'a Nonu broke up the middle of the field from New Zealand's own half, ran through a tackle of South African skipper John Smit, playing in his 100th test, and found substitute Israel Dagg out wide who crossed the line in the 80th minute to give New Zealand a famous win.

    2013 Rugby Championship: New Zealand 38, South Africa 27


    Beauden Barrett in action against South Africa in 2013. Photo / Greg Bowker

    One of the finest tests in rugby history led by a truly great performance from No. 8 Kieran Read (he got a perfect 10 in the Herald ratings). The Herald's Wynne Gray wrote "no modern test has delivered as much quality and controversy." From sin bin rulings to the All Blacks supplying an incorrect team sheet, this nine try thriller belongs in the hall of fame. Beauden Barrett was like super slippery soap in scoring the bonus point try which clinched the title. Rugby doesn't get better than this as the All Blacks hurtled to their first win at the ground in 16 years.

    2014 Rugby Championship: South Africa 27, New Zealand 25


    Patrick Lambie of South Africa celebrates after scoring the match winning penalty. Photo / Getty

    Another gripping contest which showcased an emerging creative spirit from the Springboks. The home side was rampant in the first half, the All Blacks defiant in halting the onslaught in the second. In keeping with the history of these two famed rugby warriors, controversy reigned. Pat Lambie's massive winning penalty came thanks to a contentious high tackle decision against Liam Messam. Referee Wayne Barnes was coerced into the ruling by the crowd's reaction to big screen replays, a dodgy method which produced a fair result.

    2015 Rugby World Cup semifinal: New Zealand 20 South Africa 18


    Jerome Kaino on his way to score in the corner against South Africa. Photo / Brett Phibbs

    A brilliant show of composure from the All Blacks has allowed them to hold off the Springboks in a gripping World Cup semifinal in which either team could have won in the final seconds. The Springboks put in a typically defiant performance and almost, almost, got home.

    It was an excruciating match to watch for the All Blacks supporters in the crowd of 80,000 - and there were a lot of them. Memories from the final of 2011 were never far away. And while they scored the only tries of the match - through Jerome Kaino in the right corner in the first half and Beauden Barrett in the left corner in the second, they simply couldn't break free. Dan Carter composure with the boot led the All Blacks in a strong second half display after they trailed 12-7 at halftime.



    - NZ Herald

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    Naughty Naughty Aaron Smith..... Sent home in disgrace.... Wonder if that spells the end of his All Blacks career.... Many have not recovered from this sort of thing....

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    ^What did he do wrong?

    He should not have used the disabled toilet. Bad form......

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    Prime Minister John Key says that Aaron Smith has "clearly let himself and those that are close to him down," following an indiscretion with a woman in a public toilet.

    The All Blacks star was seen entering a disabled toilet with a female after the test against the Springboks in Christchurch last month.

    He was sent home from South Africa by the All Blacks touring party after the team learned of the incident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    Naughty Naughty Aaron Smith..... Sent home in disgrace.... Wonder if that spells the end of his All Blacks career.... Many have not recovered from this sort of thing....

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    Some Qantas Wallabies stats - Cheika pulls names out of a hat?

    Qantas Wallabies have played eight matches this year -
    Used 44 players

    Of those 44:
    Only nine (James Slipper, Stephen Moore, Sekope Kepu, Michael Hooper, Nick Phipps, Bernard Foley, Tevita Kuridrani, Dane Haylett-Petty and Israel Folau) have featured in every match so far.
    Only five of those nine players have started every match
    Only three of those (Moore, Hooper and Folau) have started each match in the same jersey number
    Eleven players have only featured in one game this year
    Eight different players have worn the 23 jersey, a new one for every match
    There has been a different forward pack in every one of eight tests

    And more changes again this weekend. One of 'the nine' James Slipper is out of the 23 to face Argentina

    Expect them to beat Argentina at Twickenham, 15+, another one match winning streak

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    ^What did he do wrong?

    He should not have used the disabled toilet. Bad form......

    Na the only thing he did wrong was getting caught.

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    ^yep.

    It would have been high fives all round if he didn't get caught.

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    Was it a men only or a unisex toilet?

    Water close/t encounter of the 3rd kind.....?

    Given up by a stool pigeon?

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    South Africa 15 New Zealand 57


    "Help"

    All Blacks:
    Tries: Israel Dagg 2, TJ Perenara 2, Beauden Barrett 2, Codie Taylor, Liam Squire, Ben Smith
    Conversions: Beauden Barrett 5, Lima Sopoaga

    Springboks:
    Penalties: Morne Steyn 5

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    The Africans had a team in the final of the Super 15. They got there by speed,skill and a running game.

    Yet these idiots, play stupid rugby. Stupid players, stupid coaches.Too many idiot Dutchmen playing.




    Where is that Baas wanker now?

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    How many time does Phipps need to prove what a total prick he is?

    No. wonder the grubs don't want to pick him to start....

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    The Wobblies have managed to beat the Argy-bargies 33, 21

    Argentina 21 - 33 Australia - Match Report & Highlights

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    Argentina came with a game plan to run, run and run again..... To be honest it cost them along with some poor goal kicking. Too many balls spilled trying to make offloads that just weren't there. That said as a running team (which they never were) they are starting to get it together and on the days that it clicks they are as good to watch as anyone. Sadly it didn't quite click last night.

    My view of the proceedings

    Last edited by Bobcock; 09-10-2016 at 08:19 PM.

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    Any win for the Aussies is a move in the right direction.

    Still a long long way to go though and with no real new talent coming through it could take up to a decade for them to compete against the All Blacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    Naughty Naughty Aaron Smith..... Sent home in disgrace.... Wonder if that spells the end of his All Blacks career.... Many have not recovered from this sort of thing....
    What has Sonny Bill Williams got to do with the Aaron Smith episode?

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    ^He did the same thing.About 6-7 years ago.

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