Thread: The Rugby Championship 2016...

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Have to say also, the Bokke did well to win there at the end but they looked less than impressive against Argentina.

Or lucky. But to be fair, i have never seen the Boks ever give up. I reckon a home game next week will help them.

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Just make sure Betty doesn't make any predictions again!

I'm rather hoping he predicts an Enn Zed win...

He would never pick the 'CKB's' just on principle.

Which is fine with me.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Have to say also, the Bokke did well to win there at the end but they looked less than impressive against Argentina.

They never look great against the Pumas. The Argies match them in physicality and size.

Maybe the Aussie was crying because all he could hear was some loudmouth fuckwit babbling shit.

'This is not a trans-Tasman rivalry, it is an annual funeral'. That's how Australian rugby writer Jamie Pandaram has described the All Blacks' 42-8 thrashing of the Wallabies in Sydney last night.

Quade Cooper is coming back.

Well that answers that question then*













* the question was 'how could things possibly get worse?'

*Ouch!*

Rugby: The Wallabies' losing streak against the All Blacks

6:03 AM Wednesday Aug 24, 2016


The news doesn't get any better for the Wallabies. Backing up from Saturday's thrashing at the hands of the All Blacks they now have to break an 18-test losing streak.

August 11 2001. That was the last time the Wallabies beat the All Blacks on New Zealand soil.

The score was 23-15. It was played at a ground that doesn't exist anymore. Richie McCaw would make his All Blacks debut three months later. Rieko Ioane who joined the All Blacks squad this week was only four at the time.

The All Blacks backline included Lomu, Wilson, Umaga and Howlett that day at Carisbrook but they went down to John Eales' men thanks to 18 points from Matt Burke. Since then it's been a tough trip across the Tasman for the Wallabies, having lost 18 straight tests to the All Blacks in New Zealand.

And most of the time it hasn't even been close. The average margin of defeat is 15 points - not helped by their last two matches in New Zealand - 51-20 and 41-13 to the All Blacks.

12 of the 18 defeats have been by 10 or more points.

The closest the Wallabies have come to victory is a four-point defeat at Eden Park in 2003, when they handed over the Bledisloe Cup and haven't seen it since. 11 of those losses were at Eden Park.

Saturday will be just the Wallabies' third test against the All Blacks at Westpac Stadium since the last second victory in 2000, courtesy of John Eales' right boot.

The Wallabies have tasted success in New Zealand, just not against the All Blacks. They beat Italy, Russia, USA and the Springboks at the 2011 World Cup before losing to the All Blacks in the semifinal at Eden Park.

To be fair not many teams have won on New Zealand soil since that victory at Carisbrook in 2001 - three to be exact. The All Blacks have played 87 home tests and lost just four tests over that time (England 2003, South Africa 2008 and 2009 and France 2009).

That South African defeat in Hamilton is New Zealand's last at home - a winning streak that currently sits at 41 tests.

The Wallabies will probably be glad the test this week isn't at Eden Park where they haven't beaten the All Blacks since 1986. But we can remind them of that ahead of the third Bledisloe Cup test in October.

- NZ Herald

Teams All Blacks v Wallabies, Wellington, on Saturday

All Blacks
Ben Smith, Israel Dagg, Malakai Fekitoa, Anton Lienert-Brown, Julian Savea, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Jerome Kaino, Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Owen Franks, Dane Coles, Joe Moody.

Reserves: James Parsons, Wyatt Crockett, Charlie Faumuina, Liam Squire, Ardie Savea, TJ Perenara, Aaron Cruden, Seta Tamanivalu

Wallabies
Israel Folau, Adam Ashley-Cooper, Samu Kerevi, Bernard Foley, Dane Haylett-Petty, Quade Cooper, Will Genia, David Pocock, Michael Hooper, Scott Fardy, Adam Coleman, Kane Douglas, Sekope Kepu, Stephen Moore (capt), Scott Sio.

Reserves: Tatafu Polota-Nau, James Slipper, Allan Ala'alatoa, Dean Mumm, Will Skelton, Tevita Kuridrani, Reece Hodge, Nick Phipps.

I'd bet on the blossoms beating NZ before the Aussies...

All Blacks Jeff Wilson and Richie McCaw hoping for closer game - Sport - NZ Herald News

I agree with Sir Richard of McAwesome.

As much as I like to see the Aussies crushed under foot, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women it's not actually good long-term for the game.

I think the AB's will still win tomorrow but it will be a lot closer because: a) the AB's probably can't play that well two weeks on the trot; and b) the Aussies definitely won't play that poorly two weeks on the trot.

Must more competitive this week..... Only going to be one winner though......

Anyone watch the saffa game?

Saw the last 20..... Was a good performance to win after the bike came back to take a late lead...

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

The Convicts were poor again, but the CKBs didn't do much either... Moore is terrible, loses so much ball. Midfield for the Convicts offered nothing while the CKBs always looked threatening.

Not wishing to encourage the Convict whingers because the Convicts were poor with very few ideas, but the ref was worth 20+ points to the CKBs; eye gouging right in front of him (I'm sure he was watching it) went unpunished. Every single 50/50 call went the CKBs way, and every 60/40 and 70/30 call (in the Convicts favour) went the CKBs way too - it's hard enough to beat the best team around without the ref sucking their cock too...

Yeah the ref was throwing the ball in for the convicts and I saw him miss heaps of tackles for them and the bugger was even helping push on the All Black scrum take away that 20 points it should have been a draw

Right in front of the ref; who was watching at the time.

Just like he watched the forearm/elbow from Coles to fardy's face; clear yellow card, possible red card.




The Convicts were crap and didn't deserve to win, but the ref not only ignored CKB illegal crossing for tries (pointed out by Kiwi match commentators, btw), but ignored yellow and red card offences right in front of his eyes.

The Convicts never did enough to win, but it's bloody hard if not impossible to beat the CKBs with reffing of that quality...

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

The Convicts were crap and didn't deserve to win, but the ref not only ignored CKB illegal crossing for tries (pointed out by Kiwi match commentators, btw), but ignored yellow and red card offences right in front of his eyes.

The Convicts never did enough to win, but it's bloody hard if not impossible to beat the CKBs with reffing of that quality...

Yep, that eye gouging was shocking.

Originally Posted by crocman

The shit that comes out of Moores mouth has a big influence on which way the close decisions are handed out.

The refs just get sick of his perpetual whining.

He's the captain, he's entitled to speak with the ref.

Which the ref also denied.

Originally Posted by crocman

The shit that comes out of Moores mouth has a big influence on which way the close decisions are handed out.

The refs just get sick of his perpetual whining.

Originally Posted by kingwilly

He's the captain, he's entitled to speak with the ref.

Which the ref also denied.

That is correct. It seemed that, from the off, the ref and Saffer linesman jointly decided to punish the mouthy Convicts such as Moore and Fardy; and, to be fair, the Convicts have had that coming - Moore needs to be taken out of the Convict team set-up; he is no good for that group of players.

The CKBs have excellent second rows and were very good at the lineout; there's another young fella coming through too who is even better at lineout steals.

The Convict second row rightly got sin-binned for a stupid late shoulder charge, but Coles' and Franks' offences were worse and both were seen by the ref and upstairs ref (whatever he is called) - pretty disgusting from the officials. It could've been a good and close game if the CKBs had to play with 13 men...

Additional footage clears Franks: Hansen

All Blacks coach Steve Hansen supports a decision not to cite Owen Franks following an incident in the Bledisloe Cup Test win in Wellington, believing additional footage clears the veteran prop of any wrongdoing.

The match citing commissioner gave the Test the green light even though Wallabies coach Michael Cheika had raised concern at the incident early in Saturday's Test, won 29-9 by New Zealand.


Franks' fingers appeared to make contact with the eyes of Australian lock Kane Douglas in a seventh-minute maul.


The incident, which happened in the full view of French referee Romain Poite, was highlighted on social media and prompted Cheika to say he was "sure" it would be picked up by match review officials.


Hansen says other camera angles exonerated Franks.


"You've got to be really careful until you see all the views," he said.

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Yep, that eye gouging was shocking.

What's the first thing somebody does after they have been eye gouged?

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

The Convict second row rightly got sin-binned for a stupid late shoulder charge, but Coles' and Franks' offences were worse and both were seen by the ref and upstairs ref (whatever he is called) - pretty disgusting from the officials. It could've been a good and close game if the CKBs had to play with 13 men...

There were more late charges by the Aussies (And off the ball shite) than the Light Brigade...

Only one was seen by the ref.The rest were seen by everybody that didn't have one eyed glasses on....Why do you think the likes of Coles and Lurch got pissed off...hmmm......

^ yes, the Convicts came out firing in an effort to compete with a better team; they were rightly penalized time after time. Retaliation or not, makes no difference in the laws of the game; the ref saw foul play by the CKBs, repeatedly, and did nothing; disgraceful refereeing.

Eye-gouging is a strong term, and I don't think for one second that Franks was trying to dig his fingers into the fellas eyes. But, he had his hands around the Convicts face (and especially the eyes) and was intentionally yanking at him for several seconds; the ref repeatedly told him to stop and he didn't - it was reckless and dangerous play and was 100% a sin-binning offence if not a red card offence.

It was the sort of ridiculous play that Haskell does from time to time, and usually gets sin-binned or sent off for; rightly so.

If England players had done those offences, I'd have been shocked if they'd got away with them; I can't see how you don't realize committing foul play in front of the ref and video ref should be penalized.