The Ashes Thread.

[Wally Dorian Raffles]

Hayden on Anderson the cock sucker..

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Jimmy Anderson has no right to talk about dressing room etiquette


WHAT Jimmy Anderson has done by trying to paint the Australian team as sore losers after the first Test is smart.

He’s got the English tabloids in his pocket because they won. His bowling is still very good and he’s now trying to twist the knife in. So good luck to him.

But let’s be serious, he’s the last bloke that should be talking about whether Australia should, or shouldn’t, be having a drink after a game because he was the first to go and report everything that happens in the dressing room.

A few years ago Jimmy released a book that exposed a stoush I had with Damien Martyn after the 2006 Adelaide Test. He even quoted me calling Marto “the biggest w***er on the planet”. What was said that day is beside the point. It was one of those moments that happen all the time in cricket that happen in private.

It was none of his business to go writing about it. It’s a cardinal sin to go into an opposition dressing room and then report what happened. It’s just wrong. If it’s funny or a good yarn and 10 or 15 years down the track someone wants to bring it up, then happy days. But outside of that all cricketers know to live by that old expression: “What happens on tour, should stay on tour.”
Otherwise, why would you invite someone in your dressing room?
We didn’t really get to know Jimmy that well during my playing days but he wasn’t the most popular player, that’s the bottom line.


Matthew Hayden and Damien Martyn celebrate an Ashes victory. Source: News Limited



I was always a bit sporadic about when I’d want to drink with the opposition.
In earlier eras there were rest days between matches and everyone used to get on it together, play golf, go fishing — the old boys have got stories about having a great time. Cricket had a lot more of that social aspect to it. It was just different.
Even during my early days in Sheffield Shield cricket it was tradition for the batting side to visit the fielding side’s dressing room after a day’s play to have a beer. It was just to get to know each other and to learn. I’d be sitting next to the old boys who had played domestic and international cricket for ages and soaking it up. I wouldn’t say much.
But it slowly began to change. After a while you’d only do it at the end of the match. Then it became the end of the series.
I remember Allan Lamb — who was part of an era where the English and Australian players mixed a lot and had great times together — saying to me ahead of the 2005 Ashes that I was missing out on the best part of playing cricket, which was enjoying the company of the opposition. “You’re too serious, you’re surly, you’re sulky, you’re too aggressive,” he told me.
If it had come from anyone else I wouldn’t have paid much attention but he was a really good mentor of mine and after hearing that I thought I’d try a bit harder to get to know the opposition. Then what happens? The moment I soften my view we were beaten by England.
It might not seem like an important factor because you’re talking about such a small difference in your mindset. But if you lose your edge by one per cent it can mean a 100 per cent difference in the result.


In the Adelaide dressing rooms with Justin Langer. Source: News Limited




Matthew Hayden deflects a ball thrown at him by James Anderson. Source: News Corp Australia



In the 2006 Ashes I couldn’t think of anything worse than talking to the English players because I knew it was one of the weaknesses we had in 2005. We got a bit chummy and Australia plays its best cricket when it’s borderline angry and just wants to really dominate.
So I completely understand the Australian team’s reaction. They just need to shut their mouths and do their jobs, which is the message Michael Clarke is sending by saying, “We’re not drinking with them tonight, fellas.”
What I can’t defend is David Warner failing to recognise Joe Root’s century in the first innings.
I know there’s bad blood and all that but at the end of the day reacting that way will only end up affecting you and your character.
It’s important to follow the traditions of the game. If the umpire puts his finger up, you go. If someone gets a hundred, you acknowledge it. They’re simple things of common courtesy that need to be maintained. Otherwise the integrity of the game is lost. As Wayne Bennett said to me, “Don’t get bitter, just get better.

[Loy Toy]

Just so you know, you know what LT gets like when he loses it, accusations fly, stories get invented, things that aren't there get seen, stories get invented

Show me one post which proves I have acted in that manner Bob.

Just one!

Bet you cannot but you can remind us again (once again) about how you knocked back Aussie citizenship without even filling out an application let alone filing one.

Classic Bobcock on Teakdoor. Bob you are a fucking classic Taffy. 55555

[Loy Toy]

England as a team played well in every session and deserved the win.

4 to go.

In fact that is what I posted the last time I lost Bob.

I thought Smeg only made up things about me. 55555

[baldrick]

all cricketers know to live by that old expression: “What happens on tour, should stay on tour.”

back before cricketers were highly paid prima donnas

wonder how much that article paid ?

[Bettyboo]

This thread is great watching, the Convicts are falling apart at the seams...

[chassamui]

Matthew Hayden has been told by Cricket Australia that he must report to Plaxtons coaches in Scarborough and order a new outrage bus.
Apparently the smell of stale piss and sour grapes could not be removed from the current one.

[Bobcock]

England as a team played well in every session and deserved the win.

4 to go.

In fact that is what I posted the last time I lost Bob.

I thought Smeg only made up things about me. 55555

Yet another classic LT tried to read it but couldn't understand it......

[harrybarracuda]

Matthew Hayden has been told by Cricket Australia that he must report to Plaxtons coaches in Scarborough and order a new outrage bus.
Apparently the smell of stale piss and sour grapes could not be removed from the current one.

Don't forget the pints of bitter.

[Loy Toy]

Gotta luv it especially when Bob gets all hot and sweaty.

Bring on game two.

[Bobcock]

I'm just off on Annual Leave for 10 days, hot and sweaty is about the last thing I am as I turn my PC off now....

ADIOS FUCKERS!!

[Loy Toy]

Have a nice time Gobcock. 55555

[baldrick]

Marsh has the X Factor for me.....

and Clarke agrees with you

Clarke can be comforted by the presence of Mitchell Marsh at six, a player he's foreshadowed as a future Australian captain.

[cyrille]

15 of the 17 teams to take a 1-0 lead in an Ashes series have gone on to win it.

[Wally Dorian Raffles]

^ and 1997 was the last time that did not ring true


http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/...15-gicxm0.html

[pseudolus]

Well here we are again - Australia must be favorite at Lords. Clear run with fine weather forecast for the 5 days.

So if Aus bat first, they will have England following on and Aus win by an innings. Sounds about right?

[harrybarracuda]

Well here we are again - Australia must be favorite at Lords. Clear run with fine weather forecast for the 5 days.

So if Aus bat first, they will have England following on and Aus win by an innings. Sounds about right?

Did you miss the first test?

[Bettyboo]

I will not be making a prediction.

I do expect the convicts to improve their bowling, and build pressure - in which case, I'm not sure our number 2 and 3 have the experience to deal with it. I'd like to see Bell actually bat for 50 overs, and the captain to bat for 100 overs, Boycott styleee...

[cyrille]

Bell is a worry still, I agree. And smith is still going to score big at some point.

This series could be so close that it boils down to who wins the most coin tosses.

One plus point for England is that if they win at lord's the Australian mindset is fragile these days.

We've seen it recently under a more respected captain than Clarke will ever be.

[pseudolus]

Bell is a worry still, I agree.

He's an annoying arrogant little prick as well. I always have a wry smile on my face when he fucks up. Last time I was boozing with him I almost twatted him!

[chassamui]

Both sets of batsmen have had frailties exposed. The key will be how the bowlers operate.
Australia have some useful bowlers most of whom are underperforming. England seem to have worked out the convict weaknesses and attack them relentlessly. Whatever you say about Cook, his leadership under the new management has been very good and his less experienced bowlers are continuing to improve.
I expect the new boss to have plans for the likes of Johnson who will not be allowed to be so productive with the bat in future tests.
As both sides are full of potential, it will come down to management planning and captaincy. Guess who wins that one?

[cyrille]

Bell is arrogant?

Really?

Oh -read the rest of your post now.

Funny guy.

[chassamui]

Forgot to mention hubris.

[Necron99]

Oz win the toss and will bat.

13 of the last 14 Wnglish ashes won by the toss winner..

[pseudolus]

Had to turn down the volume during this David Warner interview. The dogs kept barking because the little scrout has a voice like a dog whistle!

[klong toey]

Australia win toss decided to have a bat.
There has not been a wicket in the cricket.

28 for 0 (7.3 overs)