The UFC thread

[kingwilly]

As usual I was right.

Woodley hits hard and lawler's chin had taken so much punishment, he fights crazy, love him, but it was time for him to lose.

Yep, quickest knockout in welterweight UFC history. (I think they said)

Bit of a shame, I was looking forward to a good fight.

The Perrez v Rivera was brutal, I thought Perrez was dumb to get into a tag fest in the last round, he was winning and one lucky haymaker is all that it takes. Luckily, Rivera gassed out first.

The girls fight was excellent also, but surprised it was a split decision, I thought it was Karolina all the way. Though Numunas had a few good spells.

[NZdick1983]

Dicky should never bet. He has been wrong in each prediction he has made. Not even close either.

555... That's the fighting game bro...

I shall use Connor's excuse.. I am not scared of defeat or adversity (yada yada)...

Robbie seemed too tentative... Congratulations to Woodley, he's one powerful dude (looks jacked) hope he's not on the juice..

Now, Connor vs Nate... that's my last shot at redemption.. Should I pick? might curse the result haha...

OK... Connor wins IF he fights his own fight...i.e. for the love of god, don't try and box the boxer... like I said, the blueprint to beat the Diaz bros has been set..

hint.. leg kicks/body kicks! chop him down first.. then head hunt later on.. pure Thai strategy...

Trouble is, has Mc nugget got heavy enough leg kicks? he seems more Karate based using fancy spinning kicks, etc...

Muay Thai basics my bro, Mc nugget! pretend Diaz is a tree.. chop him down - guard high...

Diaz is naturally bigger/taller than Mc G, so even more incentive to use legs kicks!!

[aging one]

OK... Connor wins IF he fights his own fight...i.e. for the love of god, don't try and box the boxer... like I said, the blueprint to beat the Diaz bros has been set..

Its all good. But factor in Connor is going up 10 kilos in natural weight. And fighting the closest thing to a gang banger there is. Changes the odds in my opinion. If Diaz realizes he will be too huge with another win uh oh.

He better have more of a game plan than Connor tires in the second. Glad its free here.

[NZdick1983]

Connor looks like a holocaust victim or the Golem from LOTR to make featherweight... his natural weight is around 160 lbs...

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201 was better than 200 ie it had one fight good fight - the womans

Before the fight they always pace up and down the octagon , glaring about and limbering up .
But this Polish chick was super cool. stood totally still , hands behind her back leaning against the fence..
looked like a lovely Parisian hooker


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[longway]

Almost time for UFC 202! You lucky barstewards in Thailand will get to see it free on Channel 8 on sunday morning. I am in rainy ol'london and can only watch the main event at 3am and have to pay.

Anyway, if any of you have been following the build up, the main event should contain plenty of fireworks, Diaz, unless McGregor is a great actor, is totally in McGregor's head

McGregor has all the tools to beat Diaz, and planty of gighters have shown the blueprint required to beat him, but I think McGregor is going to get sucked into Diaz's gamesmanship and get his ass kicked again.

Johnson and Teixeira, Johnson is just a better fighter in my opinion and Teixiera's best days are behind him. The only danger is that Johnson doesn't get an early knockout and gases in the 3rd, and Teixeira sneaks in a submission.

My heart says cerrone, but Story is a big strong fighter who may just brutalise Cerrone against the cage and with body shots, i am actually not sure how good Cerrone would be in the clinch against Story. Its a coin flip fight in some ways, but I think Story just manhandles Cerrone and gets the W. I hope I am wrong though.

[aging one]

I am thinking the Diaz got in McGregors head as well. I was surprised to see Brett Okamato who writes MMA for ESPN take Diaz by submission in the fourth.

[NZdick1983]

I am a huge Mc Nugget fan...

He has no business fighting at 170 lb.. he is a Huge featherweight who cuts weight like skelator on death's door, just so that he can toy with midgets...

He's a natural healthy 155 quarter pounder (with cheese and fries)..

He's 5 foot 9... Diaz is 6 ft, longer reach/frame... with insane cardio and an iron chin. He's a naturally bigger man - walks around at 200 lbs (by his own admission)
Diaz is a fucking anaconda on the ground.. if it goes to the ground, Mc Nugget is Mc toast. (just like last time)

If he tries to box Diaz.. well... you know as well as I do - that's just plain stupid..
Never fight someone at their strength...

Like I said before, the blueprint to beat Diaz has been set by RDA and a host of other Muay Thai based fighters who have beaten Diaz using leg kicks...

Conor must use heavy legs kicks and keep outside of Diaz's punches. 'Thai style', take out the legs first, then go head hunting later.
For the love of God, don't get suckered into a boxing match...

If Conor can keep his emotions in check and avoid the take down, he's in with a good chance.

One more point about Conor, I'm afraid his kicks are more showy Karate, spinning kicks, not deadly chop down a tree (think Buakao) debilitating leg kicks..

His punches (especially his left) are strong (at his natural weight) and have put away most smaller men, but have little effect on Diaz.

My heart wants Conor to win, but my head says Diaz has his number. If Conor does win, he should go back down, if not to featherweight (as the cut is too hideous) then 155 lb...

Regardless, he's made his fortune... I shan't feel too sorry for him if he's beaten again... I admire his courage going up 2 weight classes - he has balls, but his ego will be his downfall.

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talk about optimism ...

He has no business fighting at 170 lb

He's 5 foot 9... Diaz is 6 ft

Diaz is a fucking anaconda on the ground


If he tries to box Diaz.. well... you know as well as I do - that's just plain stupid..


the blueprint to beat Diaz --- leg kicks...

but

Conor, I'm afraid his kicks are more showy Karate

If Conor can keep his emotions in check and avoid the take down, he's in with a good chance.

A good chance ?
sounds like he's fucked to me

[NZdick1983]

^ I know Blue, I know.. I'm contradictory sometimes.. (I'm a cluster fuck of contradictions lol)

always the eternal optimist....

who would have picked Bisping to avenge his loss to Cockhold?
never mind KO the champ... it's been a year of upsets... don't write him off just yet... I believe he can win... (I've fooking jinxed the poor lad now)...

[kingwilly]

Tomorrow is a huge fight, I doubt Conor can do it, he believes his own hype...

[NZdick1983]

^ We shall see...

Gonna be a cracker mate.. can't wait... no spoilers please guys.

I won't turn on the telly - for fear of knowing the result before I download it from TPB...

[kingwilly]

no spoilers please guys.

don't read TD then.

[NZdick1983]

Hai!

I'll give you guys a rest from my asinine drivel tomorrow..

You buggers get to watch it live.. all we get here is Rugby.. zzzzz

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Conor McGregor v Nate Diaz Winner Betting Odds | UFC/MMA | Oddschecker

surprising , at least to me , the bookies have mc gregor the favourire
think that the case ? my brain has seized up
guess its just the optimistic Conor fans made it that way
eg high street uk prices

diaz 11/10 in usa money +110
mc gregor 4/5 -125

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looks like a good preliminary card too

[longway]

^ I know Blue, I know.. I'm contradictory sometimes.. (I'm a cluster fuck of contradictions lol)

always the eternal optimist....

who would have picked Bisping to avenge his loss to Cockhold?
never mind KO the champ... it's been a year of upsets... don't write him off just yet... I believe he can win... (I've fooking jinxed the poor lad now)...

If its any comfort, if McGregor loses, he has beaten himself, though Diaz may want to disagree with that assessment.

As you say, he can win this with the right game plan, but its a stupid fight, there is no need for it, it actually shows he is mentally weak imo. He is exposing himself to a volume puncher who will turn up on the night a good 15-20 pounds heavier than McGregor, he is just using himself up for no reason beyond ego, and well, tonnes of dosh.

For what its worth my take is that he believes if he trains hard, he will fight easy, and that's a big mistake, as if he comes up against adversity, he will fold like wet cardboard again.

Dare I say it? He needs to pull his head out of his arse and grow up if he wants to achieve his goals outside making money.

[Barty]

UFC 202: Diaz vs. McGregor 2

For those that may have missed it.

Entensity.net: UFC 202: Diaz vs. McGregor 2

The adds on the site a NSFW.

[NZdick1983]

^ I agree with Longway...

He scraped through tonight... through sheer guts and determination..
*and leg kicks!!

But shouldn't fight such bigger framed men... it's not fair on himself or his body. 155 lb is his ideal weight... *some real monsters at that weight though.. much scarier than Diaz IMHO.

[NZdick1983]

^ Sometimes that's the case...

I don't believe it was in this instance though.

[Norton]

Watched it and imo Diaz won. UFC knows more money to be made promoting McGregor. Diaz not flashy enough.

155 lb is his ideal weight... *some real monsters at that weight though.. much scarier than Diaz IMHO.

5 or 6 far better than McGregor.

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Diaz lost due to have scar tissue on his face
these obviously get opened easily, and the bleeding badly affected his vision
Why didn't he try shooting for a take down ?

Comical at the end with Connor running away like a little bitch

His already big head will explode now

[longway]

^ I agree with Longway...

He scraped through tonight... through sheer guts and determination..
*and leg kicks!!

But shouldn't fight such bigger framed men... it's not fair on himself or his body. 155 lb is his ideal weight... *some real monsters at that weight though.. much scarier than Diaz IMHO.

Nurmagomadev and Ferguson to name 2. I watched the link to the press conference and I think he is going for Alvarez and his 155 belt. Which is crazy, I think the fans deserve McGregor and Aldo 2, its not as if Aldo is a journeyman, it could just have been a lucky punch.

And either Nurmie or Ferguson are far more deserving of a title shot at 155, but he is the money, so he could get the fight and be a 2 division champ after all, but I dont think he has earned the right. But money is what counts.

[NZdick1983]

55 people seem to think I am in blind love with Conor, or think he is Bruce Lee.

I like his humor and attitude - and self belief. He was collecting dole payments - now he's a multi-millionaire.

I fully realize he has glaring holes in his game... if Diaz was able to take him down - or goad him to the ground, might as well switch channels and watch Cornonation Street, cause he would be doomed.

His strength is his movement, agility, timing and speed (within his natural weight limit). He said it himself, he only threw 2 or 3 legs kicks in his entire career, but trained leg kicks specifically to defeat Diaz.

Somehow he manages to defeat more more pure Muay Thai specialists with his fee-flowing, unpredictable style. That in itself, amazes me. As I was brought up on Muay Thai - and led to believe it was the King of stand up... and that only Muay Thai can defeat Muay Thai (in stand-up)...

He proved me wrong. Hence my admiration of the guy. I don't underestimate Aldo (I'm still a fan).... Yes, it could have/might have been a lucky punch. I don't believe for 1 second, Conor could repeat a 13 second KO of Aldo.

If he were to go back down to Featherweight, Aldo would/should make it a much more competitive fight. The lighter Conor fights, the more advantage he has.
I just don't know if he can physically go back down to 145 lb - it takes a huge toll on his body.

He is among mere mortals now... just like the key to defeat Diaz is leg kicks (as I said) the key to victory against Conor is to take him down (or wear him out!)
Conor really needs to work on his cardio - to become a 5 round fighter. He is untouchable in the first couple rounds, but fades quickly (especially at his new heavier weight)...

Very interesting times ahead for him and the UFC now that it's been sold for 4 billion...

[kmart]

^It was a surprise that he gave up his natural advantages at his previous weight (height, reach, freaky KO power) to jump 2 weight classes and take on Diaz in the first place. He got owned, and rightly so, probably believing his own hype, and thinking he was invincible (same as Rousey).
You were spot-on with the leg-kicks tactic. It won him the fight yesterday.