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    Quote Originally Posted by NZdick1983 View Post
    ^ I think you guys are underestimating Klit... he's not just a tall, octopus (like Fury) he is a fine boxer, with highly developed skills.

    AJ's main weapon is his speed and power in offense - his main weakness is his awkward defense, stiff movement.

    Klit has the edge in technical boxing skill and vastly more experience (also better foot work too IMHO)...

    Hopefully should be an awesome fight. ( Link pretty please!)...
    I think you are underestimating the effect of him being 41.

    As someone has pointed out, he looked like it in his last fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    I think you are underestimating the effect of him being 41.
    Bernard Hopkins...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    I think you are underestimating the effect of him being 41.
    Bernard Hopkins...
    He ain't no Bernard Hopkins.

    He's just a large, average boxer who's beaten a succession of chumps.

    Did you watch his "fight" against Fury?

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    But doesn't klitscho look in better shape than his previous fight? lighter even?

    Has the humiliation of losing after 10 years to nutcase Fury spurred him on.

    Will Joshua 'I'm going to be a billionaire' big head get to him.

    I want to see that African shaped shoulder Tattoo horizontal on the floor, with the ref waving the fight off.
    Then hopefully border patrol will arrive, arrest and deport him back to Nigeria -charge:
    Being an ungrateful 2'nd generation immigrant and willfully biting the hand that feeds you.


    good un-hyped Dominic Ingle breakdown here

    I am not convinced, as many people seem to be, that Anthony Joshua will blast through ...

    But I keep wondering whether too much has been made of Klitschko’s defeat by Tyson Fury. Yes, he looked awful that night: slow and flat-footed and desperately trigger-shy.
    The question is: how much of that was down to age and how much to Fury bamboozling him?
    Because, make no mistake, the Gypsy King fought an exceptionally smart tactical fight, which was very different to what everyone expected.


    Watch it again and you’ll see that when Fury attacked he boxed orthodox, with his left hand leading, but when Klitschko came forward he immediately switched to southpaw, fending him off with a right-handed jab.

    Not only did that confuse his opponent but – crucially – it increased the distance between Klitschko’s right hand and Fury’s chin, making it harder for Wladimir to land with the heavy artillery.

    Another factor in Fury’s favour was that he was the bigger man with the longer reach – which meant Klitschko could not get his powerful left jab off, from which everything else he does

    Winning the battle of the jabs will be key. Yes, Joshua is tremendously fast and powerful, but Klitschko’s jab is more technically sound and accurate. And although he doesn’t look it, because he stands a bit upright, the Ukrainian is also very hard to hit.

    Joshua has never been the distance. One of the worst things for a fighter is when they go into a bout knowing they may have to go 12 rounds for the first time. No matter how well they prepare physically, it gets in their head.

    Klitschko will also want to find out how Joshua responds if he is put under sustained pressure. Because it is a different story when you have been beating up opponents and then somebody stands up to you, as Dillian Whyte did briefly to Joshua. That’s when some chinks in the armour appeared.

    And, at the back of my mind, I wonder whether Klitschko might just be able to use all his nous to nullify Joshua’s tremendous physical talents, like Muhammad Ali did when he rope-a-doped the unstoppable George Foreman back in 1974, and shock us all – either with a points victory or late stoppage.

    Dominic Ingle trains the IBF world welterweight champion Kell Brook
    full article here
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...-dominic-ingle

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Being an ungrateful 2'nd generation immigrant and willfully biting the hand that feeds you
    Did he knob your girlfriend as well then?

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    Trainer Dominic Ingle

    Klitschko will also want to find out how Joshua responds if he is put under sustained pressure.
    Because it is a different story when you have been beating up opponents and then somebody stands up to you, as Dillian Whyte did briefly to Joshua.
    That’s when some chinks in the armour appeared.
    Here: and whyte is just a standard heavyweight
    Joshua in red




    that's after joshua showed poor discipline hitting after the 1s't round bell, then got sucked into the street fight mistake above



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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    But doesn't klitscho look in better shape than his previous fight? lighter even? Has the humiliation of losing after 10 years to nutcase Fury spurred him on.
    Yes, I agree Blue. I think he looks invigorated after the Fury humiliation. It must have driven his obsession into overdrive. I would put money on him beating Fury 95% sure he would have beaten Fury in a rematch...

    No shame if he loses, he's 41, definitely past him prime. Can he put on a final masterclass? I didn't like Klit as a boxer (found him boring and staid) but there is no denying his skills and achievements.

    AJ is a decent lad (aside from his recent monetary obsession)..

    Fuck it, I'll be cheering for Clit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    I think you are underestimating the effect of him being 41.
    Bernard Hopkins...
    He ain't no Bernard Hopkins.

    He's just a large, average boxer who's beaten a succession of chumps.

    Did you watch his "fight" against Fury?
    Bernard he is not, however he is a very good boxer. He didn't win all his fights just because he is big.

    Styles make fights.Fury fucked him up, no doubt. That doesn't make him any less a boxer though.

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    For fucks sake don't encourage me
    I haven't been down the Bookies yet, and don't want to be eating bread and water all week.

    Just watching a 2004 fight klitcho lost
    His body looks in better shape today than then.
    Some people are unkindly suggesting he may be a drug cheat.

    I don't care I'll take a 'roid win!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    I think you are underestimating the effect of him being 41.
    Bernard Hopkins...
    He ain't no Bernard Hopkins.

    He's just a large, average boxer who's beaten a succession of chumps.

    Did you watch his "fight" against Fury?
    Bernard he is not, however he is a very good boxer. He didn't win all his fights just because he is big.
    No, there was also the factor that his opponents were either washed up or just plain crap.

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    Looks like we have another Frank Bruno on our hands....






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    Terrific comeback, he was out on his feet in the sixth, and dazed for the next two, but stayed out of trouble, got his second wind and beat the crap out of the Ukrainian.

    It seems 18 fights taught him something after all.
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    Dick was right then ey? I told you not to underestimate the old dog.... even Harry got to admit Clit did more than alright for an aging heavyweight...
    nearly had the young lion for brexit.

    Credit where it's due, very proud of Clit's performance. In fact, both guys showed grit an determination. Not quite powerful enough to beat Josh, but I am positive with that performance, he would have beaten e Fury like a cheap drum.

    On ya Clit, ya fought like a Scotsman! a fooking warrior poet!

    Mad respect to both gents, was exactly the fight boxing needed.


    *Now, where do I collect my smart ass "I told you so", award?
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    My admiration for Clit has gone up after this fight... both men were respectful towards each other...

    "There were no losers tonight" Clit said. I agree, great night for boxing.
    AJ needs to tighten his defense, he's shown to be vulnerable.

    My boy Parker has only a puncher's chance against the big boys (sorry to say)... with his 76" reach vs 82" + reach of the big 'uns...

    He will never get inside with his t-rex arms, he lacks the head movement of a Tyson (real Tyson, not that twat e furry)...
    At least I'm being honest and practical about it... *hope I'm wrong..

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    Why on earth would the performance of a Ukrainian boxer make you proud?


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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille
    Why on earth would the performance of a Ukrainian boxer make you proud?
    ^ Because he's a fellow human being... never mind if he's Ukrainian, Lao, or a midget alien crossbred with DJ...

    His performance (given his age) was incredible, he almost pulled off an upset, over a much (much) younger fighter.

    Have you watched the fight, Cyrille? watch their post fight press conference, then tell me if you still disagree with me..

    Both fighters showed class... Anthony Joshua is a humble ass dude, it's hard not to like him as well.

    I was one of only a few, who believed Clit would give the 'young lion' a run for his money... most others said he was too old and would get steamrolled... that didn't happen.

    2017 has been a great year for boxing IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NZdick1983 View Post
    "There were no losers tonight" Clit said.
    Perhaps he doesn't understand the scoring system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Perhaps he doesn't understand the scoring system.
    Come on Harry, you are missing the point.

    They put on a great show, both evenly matched (aside from the multi-generational divide ).. although Clit came up short, he gave an exemplary performance no?

    Would you fail to be impressed, if a 41 year old Ivan Lendl, came close to beating an in prime 27 year old Andre Agassi?

    Tough crowd.

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    Easterners do not like Mussies Richard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZdick1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Perhaps he doesn't understand the scoring system.
    Come on Harry, you are missing the point.
    Don't be dumb, he can't say there were no losers when he fucking lost.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NZdick1983 View Post
    Would you fail to be impressed, if a 41 year old Ivan Lendl, came close to beating an in prime 27 year old Andre Agassi?
    Umm...Can we make it Henman coming close to beating Murray?

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    Murray is from district 11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    See Blue
    Blue won't be in today, losing all that money brings back bad memories of all those black men shagging his girlfriends.

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    and hedging on Elton's past by sell date.

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