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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    Anyway carry on and enjoy the thread about what ever sport this is
    No problems mate.
    You can add your favorite Gridiron, Hockey or beer drinking side and for the benefit of our North American members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    Farrok Engineer,
    Farokh Engineer??...in an all time great west Indian team.... hmmmm..... he is a Parsi from Mumbai dude.....

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    From the top of my head, I'm sure I'd remember a name or two if I had a search

    1. Gordon Greenage
    2. Desmond Haynes.
    3. Sir Viv Richards
    4. Brian Lara
    5. Sir Garfield Sobers
    6. Clive Lloyd
    7. Jeff Dujon
    8. Malcolm Marshall
    9. Anderson Roberts
    10. Curtley Ambrose
    11. Michael Holding
    12. Lance Gibbs

    v

    1. Roy Fredricks
    2. Lawrence Rowe
    3. Everton Weekes
    4. Richie Richardson
    5. Alvin Kallicharran
    6. Shivnarine Chanderpaul
    7. Deryck Murray
    8. Joel Garner
    9. Ian Bishop
    10. Colin Croft
    11. Courtney Walsh
    12. Roger Harper

    Harper has to be 12 in one team because he was an extraordinarily gifted fielder up there with Colin Bland, Jonty Rhodes, Derek Randall....etc.

    Names I thought of but didn't pick

    Rohan Kanhai
    George Headley (possibly the greatest of them all but I just don't know, I'm not that old)
    Wayne Daniel
    Faoud Bacchus
    Frank Walcott
    Frank Worrell
    Winston Davis
    Chris Gayle
    Jimmy Adams
    Collis King
    Patrick Patterson
    Gus Logie
    Hilary (Larry) Gomes
    Conrad Hunte......

    I'll stop there, there are many more.

    Cricket needs a strong West Indies like Formula One needs a strong Ferrari.....

    I'd love to see them come back to prominence....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    Cricket needs a strong West Indies like Formula One needs a strong Ferrari.....

    I'd love to see them come back to prominence....
    Yep, those were pretty heady times with that team striking fear into everyone's hearts through the late 70's and 80's.

    I read that Kerry Packer signed up the whole team for his WSC series.

    He was bloody lucky they were around at the time.

    I also agree the demise of W.I cricket has left a huge gap particularly in test cricket which has been closed a bit by England's resurgence.

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    It was also helped by the return to test cricket of South Africa..... but lets be honest..... no team has ever excited like the West Indies at their peak.... even the great Australian team that followed didn't have the style of Lara, the swagger of Richards, the fear of Holding and the menace of Roberts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    even the great Australian team that followed didn't have the style of Lara, the swagger of Richards, the fear of Holding and the menace of Roberts
    Cannot argue with that point except for Warne who resurrected the leg spin technique bowling unplayable balls of the century and being a bit of a character/ cvnt whilst doing it.

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    Yep....Warne revolutionised the game and was a genius, a true all time greatest.....but.......

    I pay to watch the quicks and the great batsmen......

    That may just be me...... and as truly brilliant McGrath was (in the all time world XI) nothing got me going like the first time I saw Holding bowl live..... it was incredible, I was 12.... I wish I'd had a camera that day...... he came in from the boundary at Worcester, opening game of the 1976 tour, never seen anything as fast as he was on that 1976 tour.

    Ambrose was just as exciting as well on his day, I would love to have seen the game where Dean Jones made the mistake of complaining about his wrist bands at the WACA. It was meant to have been something special.....

    Batsmen are something different and not just limited to the west Indies, but again they play the game with so much power and flair..... Richards being the pick. The mans shoulders were massive for a cricketer. Wristy little Indians are nice but Richards was supreme. Hayden would come close as well for that swagger. Clive Lloyd was immensely powerful too. When I bowled in the nets at Glamorgan against opposition batsmen I held Clive Lloyd's bat. Not only was it far heavier than any bat I had ever come across, it had 4 rubbers on the handle. He told me a normal handle felt like a matchstick to him.

    No one apart from Robin Smith could square cut like Gordon Greenidge that I have ever seen.

    Actually talking of Robin Smith's square cut, did anyone hear Merv highes story about trying to sledge Robin Smith and his square cut?
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    ^ Nice memories Bob.

    Watch this clip of Viv destroying Australia and you may notice he rarely uses his feet. Purely power and timing.



    And Curtly Ambrose cleaning up the Aussies.


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    Whoever claims cricket is a poofs game have a look at this ball.



    And an honest Aussie.


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    I know squat about what your talking about so will only say that I agree with David44...

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    Great catches win matches. Have a look at these Bob.


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    LT, I have a feeling that that third final at the SCG was one of the games I was at.

    I can't see videos at work, you tube is blocked....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    LT, I have a feeling that that third final at the SCG was one of the games I was at.
    I think the Gilchrist walking incident was played in Hobart and it was the 3rd WC game.

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    Pitcher- Roger Clemens
    Catcher- Johnny Bench
    First Base- Keith Hernandez
    Second Base- Joe Morgan
    Shortstop- Ozzie Smith
    Third Base- Mike Schmidt
    Left Field- Carl Yastrzemski
    Center Field- Willie Mays
    Right Field- Babe Ruth

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    ^ Thanks for contributing Failsafe.

    Amazing that you have not included Barry Bonds or that bloke who married Marilyn Monroe. He must have been a decent player to get into her pants.

    C'Mon you other Yanks and Canucks............Lets see your best side ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    LT, I have a feeling that that third final at the SCG was one of the games I was at.
    I think the Gilchrist walking incident was played in Hobart and it was the 3rd WC game.
    The Richards innings.... you posted them....

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe View Post
    Pitcher- Roger Clemens
    Catcher- Johnny Bench
    First Base- Keith Hernandez
    Second Base- Joe Morgan
    Shortstop- Ozzie Smith
    Third Base- Mike Schmidt
    Left Field- Carl Yastrzemski
    Center Field- Willie Mays
    Right Field- Babe Ruth
    Bill Buckner at first base....5555

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe View Post
    Pitcher- Roger Clemens
    Catcher- Johnny Bench
    First Base- Keith Hernandez
    Second Base- Joe Morgan
    Shortstop- Ozzie Smith
    Third Base- Mike Schmidt
    Left Field- Carl Yastrzemski
    Center Field- Willie Mays
    Right Field- Babe Ruth
    Bill Buckner at first base....5555
    As a Mets fan, Bill Buckner will always hold a special place in my heart, but he won't be on my field.

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    Sad that such a good player gets remembered for one thing.....

    Have you seen the film Catching Hell that compares the scape goats Bill Buckner and Steve Bartman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock View Post
    Sad that such a good player gets remembered for one thing.....

    Have you seen the film Catching Hell that compares the scape goats Bill Buckner and Steve Bartman.
    I haven't seen it.

    I agree he was an excellent player, and if you watch the play from a low angle you can see the ball took a weird hop, but that's what he'll always be remembered for- if I live to be 100 I will never forget it- Game 6 was the greatest game ever- I almost picked Mookie Wilson for my team out of sentiment.
    There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
    HST

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    Babe Ruth, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Lou Gehrig and Joe DiMagio are all names I have heard whilst not being a baseball fan and because I grew up in Australia.

    I suppose that all these players were batsmen and made their name by hitting home runs?

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    They were excellent fielders as well, but the older guys were always more celebrated for what they could do at the plate- Ruth, Aaron, and Mays for home runs, DiMaggio for his 56-game hitting streak (still unequaled in over 70 years), and Gehrig for his streak of consecutive games played (and his untimely death).

    Mays was one of the best outfielders who ever lived.


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    Whereas many say Barry Bonds' career should have an asterisk next to it....

    Watch Ken Burns' Baseball, about a 20 hour documentary about baseball from the start to the modern day.... awesome stuff....

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    It's the same with Clemens (though he was too good not to pick- 7 Cy Youngs- come on), A-Rod, and several others- I think a lot of great players are gonna go down in the next year or two- and they still won't let Pete Rose in the Hall for gambling...

    I didn't pick Barry Bonds as I thought he'd be a disruptive clubhouse influence- he was a notorious pain-in-the-ass (though he could crush a baseball).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    LT, I have a feeling that that third final at the SCG was one of the games I was at.
    I think the Gilchrist walking incident was played in Hobart and it was the 3rd WC game.
    The Richards innings.... you posted them....
    Lots of booing going on there. Can't have been 'the best sportsmen in the world'™, so who was it?

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