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    Today's Rugby

    14:35 AB's v Boks
    17:05 Wallabies v Pumas

    Live coverage on Setanta (True sports Extra, Ch 107)

    Kiwis v Saffas
    Well, with the AB's on a roll, largely injury free and playing at home can anyone see a reason to not assume the Boks are going to cop a hiding here?
    I can't. I'll still watch as it gives me a reason to open a beer a bit earlier than normal.

    Wobblies V Argies

    With Genia lost to injury in last weeks game, that puts 15 otherwise 1st string Wallabies on the sick list. Surely the conditioning coaches should be questioning their usefulness about now. Barnes has been kept despite apparently not following orders not to kick the fucking ball away every time it's in his hand for the last 3 games. He is also being played at a totally untested 15....
    For that reason this should be a corking game and while I'm hoping for a home win, I wouldn't be surprised if the Pumas pull off their first win of the series. Their consistently strong forward pack and hyper aggressiveness at the rucks is sure to trouble the Wallabies strongly inconsistent 8. If the aussie forwards and centers don't find a way to get the ball to our much vaunted but little seen runners with some space, we could be in for a shock loss.

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    Genia was virtually marked out of the games against the All Blacks and Barnes has been horrible this series.

    Now it seems we have a pack of forwards that can at least scrummage but our backs are shite.

    It would not surprise me at all to see the Pumas win today.

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    It's not the backs that are crap, they can't do anything unless they are given the ball and room to run it. Forwards who wont push the line and centres like McCabe who won't or can't pass or offload. And Barnes kicking away all the offensive ball...The scrum though does seem to have improved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99
    Barnes kicking away all the offensive ball
    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99
    and centres like McCabe who won't or can't pass or offload
    You have pretty much confirmed my shite rating mate.

    Players playing out of position, Barnes kicking the ball straight down opposition throats allowing counter attacks...............Bloody terrible apart from their defence.

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    Good effort from the Boks so far.
    nil all 15 min in.
    Not sure about you,but I'm a bit jack of the Haka.
    If they want to do their silly dance all well an good, but why is the other team forced to participate by being the unmoving target of it?

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    5-3 to the ABs at the break.
    surprisingly, the Boks have had the better of it so far, and if either Steyn was firing, or the game wasn't in this kicking cursed stadium, the Boks would be 15 in front on penalties.

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    Steyn lost that game as much as the AB's won it... And I do not mean just with his errant goal kicking.. His out of hand kicking was atrocious too. Just kept on handing the ball back to a more than willing AB back three.

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    The Boks should have won.They are just pig shit dumb.

    Somebody should teach them how to run the ball.Christ, they have the size and the heart, just no brains.

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    ^ Yes, theirs to lose and they did.

    Now the Wallabies. Lots of trying, seem to have been camped out in the Argie 20 for half an hour but not much to show for it.
    barnes, kept for his kicking is 1/3...

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    Phipps is impressing , lots of quick ball. The backs and broken play has boon good, over the line twice for no reward.
    Shipperly lost with bone sticking out of his finger...

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    3-6 to Argies at the break.

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    While it would be easy to pencil that one in as a lucky escape, I think it's more a case of things going well, but not quite clicking.
    Lots of dropped ball from players not quite gelled with each other attempting a loose running game with plenty of passing and offloads. An improvement in intent if not execution.
    Phipps did well, better than Genia of late I think, except for the momentary brain explosion of the quick tap followed by out on the full kick..
    The other new guys were also impressive in their work rate.

    For Barnes, (another head knock and off with cramps again!) I think that has to be his last game. If a back isn't fit for 80 minutes he really shouldn't be in the side.

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    Nice to see the Puma's being competitive though, I had been concerned that they may be easy beats. Bu so far that has not been the case.

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    Tonights matches

    10:00 PM bkk time
    Boks v Wallabies at Loftus.

    6:10 AM
    Pumas v AB's

    Crunch time for the Wallabies, a win on the high veldt at Loftus is a tough ask at the best of times. The Wallabies go into this match with Beale playing an unfamiliar 10, Higgenbotham most likely ruled out with a training injury and Stephen Moore sent home injured leaving PolataNui in charge of our lineouts.
    If all this wasn't enough, we have the slow motion derailment of the Quade Train taking place back in Oz (my thoughts on this and the ARU here) which surely must be having a distracting effect on an already weakened 22.
    If we can pull this one off it will be a miracle.
    The match though isn't do or die for second place, the Boks still to play the AB's at home next week. In theory a Wallaby loss here could be ofset by a win in Argentina.

    Big chance for the Pumas to add to their reputation if not their points tally playing the AB's at home. Helped by the conditions which hampered both the kicking and running game of the AB's when they met in NZ, the Pumas put in a very respectable effort until the weather calmed and the AB's ran away with it. Home ground advantage and what should be a mammoth partizan crowd may give them a chance tonight.

    Both games live on True Sports Extra, channel 107 on your true box.

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    The whole Cooper episode may just spur the Wallabies on. But they have yet to win at Loftus and I doubt very much that is going to change today..
    Young Goosen is a great talent and if he is given a bit of freedom to play his natural game he should take the Boks away from the boring style and in to a more complete game.. That is if the coach lets him..

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    Comfortable Bok win as the Wallaby injury crisis grows... Are there any class players left standing in Australia?
    I do feel for Deans, he is fighting for his job and is not being helped by the injury crisis...

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    Late night,many beers, up early, hungover.
    Thats how the Wallabies seemed in what turned into a shambolic rout at Loftus.
    Several players impressed for the Wallabies, noticably Beale who seems to have lost half a pig and found some form in the last few weeks. AAC oustanding as usual until he knocked himself out in yet another try saving tackle. (news is he is ok). Phipps again was quick with the ball but looked lost when running. Samo put in some truely ground shaking tackles but is justnot a 80 minute player and was looking lost at times without smart runners around him. The lack of combinations and more terrible kicking from Barnes made this match look like a Juniors match.

    ^ Pete, I feel for Deans like I feel for the Captain of the Titanic ordering on more speed in the ice. Farcical use of the bench, a issue that will become a defining feature of Deans tenure as Wallabies coach. Gentle Benn was taken off at the 30 min mark for no reason other than to give the unfit teletubby a rest. This later led to a situation that would be comical if not so tragic, with the bench used up due to subs and yet more injuries to Digby, Samo, Barnes and AAC a final injury forced TPN from the field. Deans attempted to send on Saiia Fienga as a replacement only to be told his bench was done. (Here's a tip Robbie the Innumerate, SEVEN players on the bench means SEVEN Subs allowed!) Being told they would have to play on with only 14 men TPN bravely tried to retake the field but was ruled medically unfit. Uncontested scrums for the rest of the seemingly endless game. But for a few missed tries and lots of missed kicks it would have been a cricket score.

    The overall result was a loss of epic proportions making a young bok side and an old Brian Habbana look like maestos. The Saffa commentators actually said they felt sorry for the Wallbies left out there, the ultimate ignomiy.

    The end of this season can't come too soon, the impending Lions tour can't be far enough away...
    Deans must go. Now. Jon O'Niell can split the cab fare to the airport with him.

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    Embarrassment.

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    I thought the end result would have been a lot worse and the Wallabies did hold the Boks 14 to 3 well into the second half.

    There is a bloody good side sitting in Oz at the moment. All they have to do is get fit.

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    The problem as I see it is twofold.
    For the immeadiate term, each injury to a first choice squad member puts pressure on a recovering one to return early (see Drew Mitchell).
    This is a chain reaction process as an unfit player on the field leads other to injury in covering and inevitably a reinjury. No other professional team has had as many injuries as the Wallabies. Why?
    We are in this situation due to a lack of depth, the greedy short term thinking of the ARU is to blame for this.
    He may be a dopey selfish twat, but Cooper was right. Something is rotten in the state of Australian rugby.

    Time for some hair of the dog.

    ps. The Ab's win comfortably.

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    Clinical All Blacks dispatch Pumas

    By Daniel Richardson
    1:54 PM Sunday Sep 30, 2012
    Aaron Smith of the All Blacks dives over for the first try during the Rugby Championship match between Argentina and the New Zealand All Blacks at Estadio
    All Blacks 54
    Argentina 15

    They'd spoken about it happening for a while and the All Blacks finally clicked in to gear with a clinical display as they racked up seven tries on the way to a 54-15 victory over Argentina in La Plata today.

    After a handful of scratchy performances in the Rugby Championship, where although they were unbeaten they failed to flatter, the world champions said a big day out was coming.

    It came in beautiful fashion in South America as the Steve Hansen-coached side functioned like a well-oiled machine with Dan Carter back in the saddle at first-five after he had missed the past two tests with a calf injury.

    Argentina, who play with a passion that was pumped up by a buoyant home crowd, got on the board first when nippy halfback Martin Landajo finished off a scintillating break by 26-year-old fullback Lucas Gonzalez Amorosino.

    The try gave the Pumas self-belief after they had previously run Australia close and drew with South Africa in the inaugural Rugby Championship.

    But the All Blacks worked their way in to the game and as their passes stuck they became more dangerous on attack as big wing Julian Savea grabbed a double, Aaron Smith found the line and Cory Jane also scored a five-pointer and the All Blacks went in to the half-time break with a 32-8 lead.

    The Pumas scored early in the second spell through right wing Gonzalo Camacho before New Zealand resumed control of the contest and went about giving the scoreboard a decent workout.

    Richie McCaw, who came in to the game with a slight leg injury, was immense in defence and was spelled after a 58-minute shift to give young gun Sam Cane a chance to stretch his legs in his third test appearance.

    McCaw was one of four players subbed at once as Hansen cleared his bench and took the opportunity to pull Carter, who looked sharp in his return, while Owen Franks and Smith were removed to give the reserves a run.

    Manawatu pivot Aaron Cruden, who replaced Carter, didn't miss a beat as he made a break with one of his first touches of the ball to set Ma'a Nonu away, which capped a great outing from the dreadlocked second-five who also laid on Smith's first-half try.

    Jane, who also scored in the 50th minute, finished the rout with a late try on full-time to complete his hat-trick, which also brought up the half century for the Kiwis.

    The romp wrapped up the Rugby Championship trophy for the All Blacks, who head to South Africa during the week to meet the Springboks in Johannesburg next weekend.

    New Zealand 54 (Cory Jane 3, Julian Savea 2, Aaron Smith, Ma'a Nonu tries; Dan Carter 3 con, 2 pen, Aaron Cruden 2 con, pen) Argentina 15 (Martin Landajo, Gonzalo Camacho tries; Juan Martin Hernandez pen, con) HT: 32-8

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    I am sure that next Saturdays game will be the last with Deans at the helm, win or lose.
    But I do think that the problem lies deeper than just with him.. The whole idea of a filth Australian Super Rugby franchise was supposed to allow more talent to be unearthed.. That does not seem to be happening???

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    The problem is that Super XV has no depth. Few of the players in XV can cut it at test level.
    Spreading limited talent over 5 teams means that when the stars combine in the Wallabies there are no established combinations.
    The lack of a 3 tier competition is the biggest problem, players are expected to go from a weekend subbie with a day job to playing in the hardest club comp in the world. The solution was the ARC, Flower set it up, O'Niell killed it almost the day he got in.

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    ^^^ Agreed. New Zealand and South Africa at least have their provincial championships to use as a base to identify and nurture talent.
    And I do think that Australia were better off with just there teams in the S12 Days..

    ARC, flower set up? That only lasted a season or two didn't it? I remember seeing a few games being televised here.
    Do you think that Australia could benefit from playing overseas based players as the Boks are at the moment? For my money Francois Louw was the best Bok forward on the park yesterday and he is based in Bath....

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    As much as I dislike Deans, hasn't he got 14 first choice players injured?

    No team with an injury list like that could perform....none!

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