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    Quote Originally Posted by benbaaa
    poke a small hole in your router with a sharp obect like a nail, and a hammer.
    A #3 masonry drill will do as well

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    but it is a good idea to unplug it first

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    I'm downloading a movie called 'the descent' at the moment as well as the third series of shameless that I will be lucky to get before the end of January.

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    Butterfly

    I am using WinXP the firewall exceptions are

    u Torrent
    azureus
    UPnP Framework

    Amongst others.

    ?????

    E. G.

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    Using u Torrent
    just figred out how to check the stats:

    size 99.9 MB
    27% done
    seeds 5(5)
    Peers 2 (3)
    down speed 0.4/5 kB/s
    up speed 0.0
    ETA 23 +hrs
    Uploaded 2.78 MB
    Ratio 0.102
    Avail 5.33

    Guess its working ???? but slow

    E.G.
    "If you can't stand the answer --
    Don't ask the question!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon View Post
    Thanks a lot.

    I suppose I ought to green you.
    Well it's now stopped.97.1% I want to hurt the person responsible for this.

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    Love the guy.
    the acting is outstanding top to bottom.

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    back on track now 2 hours to go....

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    goodo.
    only about 4 days left for me.
    uploading bloody quickly though.

    I'm in the process of watching "the descent".... I'm pretty scared and felt the need to check in on the forum.

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    veeeeeeeeeeery slow

    U Torrent

    I've obviously got something really flocked.

    I suspect its the Firewall connection in WinXP
    but haven't a clue on how to fix.

    E. G.

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    Jeez! These old people aren't very patient, are they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gibbon
    I suspect its the Firewall connection in WinXP but haven't a clue on how to fix.
    Disable your WinXP firewall for half an hour, to find out if it is the cause of the problem.
    My Computer -> Control Panel -> Windows Firewall

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    CMN, I am still waiting for your files on my ftp server, did you download filezilla at least ?

    Some guys in the US and in Sweden are downloading at 1,650 kbytes/sec those 4 Gb torrents. It must take them like 1 hour to download it all. In Paris, uTorrent was going at 120kb/sec and it would take 24hours to download one 4GB torrent.

    Here back to the usual 5kb/sec with ETA 3w2d1h (3 weeks 2 days 1 hour)

    fuck !!!
    Last edited by Butterfly; 17-01-2007 at 03:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gibbon
    I've obviously got something really flocked.
    no, it's normal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    Here back to the usual 5kb/sec with ETA 3w2d1h (3 weeks 2 days 1 hour)
    Well, if you download umpteen torrents parallelly then usually each torrent gets bandwidth/umpteen
    I can probably do that torrent in 2 days , running circles around most of the downloaders.
    Here, from Thailand..

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    ^ I find this hard to believe, 2 days, I call bullshit

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    Well, do your math.
    Yesterday I downloaded a single file 903Mb in exactly 9 hours.
    I could have done it faster but would then have come out with a very bad share ratio forcing me to seed it for a longer time. I had 0.63:1 when it finalised. 512/256 TT&T connection.

    Bittorrent is tit-for-tat. If you don't give tit you wont get tat.
    It is not more difficult than that.

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    Correction, if you don't give tit you'll have to pick up what's falling down from the rich mans table. You are on the lowest level of the foodchain and should rightfully be there

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    Bittorrent is tit-for-tat. If you don't give tit you wont get tat.
    Is that right? I should be ok then, I've been leaving my d/l's for a period - just finished Battlestar Galactica (seasons 1&2) which was a 11GB d/l but I noticed I'd uploaded about 14GB

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    Correction, if you don't give tit you'll have to pick up what's falling down from the rich mans table. You are on the lowest level of the foodchain and should rightfully be there
    well are you using Register only trackers ? if yes that could explain why, but I don't see how not sharing through public trackers, above all with a changing IP could be effectively tracked ? I don't think uTorrent will broadcast your Share ratio during download and I am sure you could block it.

    So I still call Bullshit or share your secret

    (specifics not story telling)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    or share your secret
    I have already done that, but I can repeat and type slowly this time:

    The example I gave you was a file from PirateBay.
    I run single files , giving all my attention to one torrent.
    I assign 80% of my bandwidth to Azureus with 4 upload slots, and I normally don't seed any other torrents during my downloads.

    By doing this, I am considered by other nodes to be an interesting share partner, so I am part of the tit-for-tat game.
    Due to my location compared to other nodes (round-trip time) and the lousy internet in Thailand, I am usually not able to establish a 1:1 share ratio during downloading. Somewhere between 0.5 - 0.8 is normal so I have to seed the torrent for a couple of hours before starting another one.

    This is the whole secret of how I can catch up with European and US nodes which are already halfways through the torrent, run circles around them, and finally feed them when they are at 80% and I am at 100
    Yes, this is true for some 80% of a swarm, I can of course not compete with nodes on a fat European pipe using the same technique.

    I should add that tit-for-tat is a major decisison maker for the leeching algoritm. Leechers reaching 100% and becoming seeders will upload to the node who can swallow most. That's the pieces from the rich mans table..
    So when I see people saying that a lot of seeders is what is needed, then I know what kid of node they are. The kind of node that I usually click "kick and ban" on in Azurues. The type of node that gives me 437bytes/sec while downloading from me with 5Kb/sec..

    Running a lot of consequtive downloads creates an evil circle.
    Not only do you split your upload capacity risking to be excluded from the tit-for-tat game. In that case you will also be totally dependant on seeders.
    You'll also be sitting with a lot of seeding torrents taking upload capacity. They will take forever to complete ( 1:1) or at least until there are no better seeders available.
    Leechers are looking for nodes who can give them most, and the small amount you are able to give is of low priority for them.


    Try it, you´ll like it !!

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    ok let me translate what your are saying because you are still using a lot of words for accomplishing really simple tasks

    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    I run single files , giving all my attention to one torrent.
    I also run one torrent, but as you know there could be multiple single files in it, are you saying that I should download each file seperately using the same torrent ?


    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    I assign 80% of my bandwidth to Azureus with 4 upload slots, and I normally don't seed any other torrents during my downloads.
    So you are saying that 80% of your 512Kb connection is reserved for upload, that would be putting a limit of 3k/sec for each of your 4 upload slots, correct ? do you really need only 20% of your upload stream for download overhead ?

    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    run circles around them, and finally feed them when they are at 80% and I am at 100
    Yes, this is true for some 80% of a swarm
    What do you mean "run circles" ? explain this above, not clear

    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    The type of node that gives me 437bytes/sec while downloading from me with 5Kb/sec..
    Ok so part of the secret is to ban leechers, what parameters do you look at to recognize a leecher, his peer-to-peer ratios, his download speed (too high), his upload speed (too low) ?

    and finally the trick question: each torrent has a different span of nodes. What makes you think those nodes and trackers will remember you when you switch torrents ? different torrents, different players, and your IP is DHCP so it will expire quickly and then you are back to the beginning, so your "upload rep" doesn't accomplish anything at the end. or Am i missing something ?

    btw, do you know a good command line Linux version for a torrent client ?

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    ol fudkers

    Yeah, I'm an old flocker.... with no patience...


    So what to do... I went without the firewall and basically no difference. Maybe I'll just have to be PATIENT.


    I hate that lol..

    E. G.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon View Post
    Love the guy.
    the acting is outstanding top to bottom.



    Has to be the very,very best TV show that I have seen.Got to hand it to the poms!!Series II is every bit as good as the first one.CMn,how is III coming along?

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