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22-09-2017, 07:44 AM
PAG

Last night started watching a BBC2 offering, "The Detectives: Murder on the streets". For the first few minutes I thought I was watching a fictional series, but no, it's actually a fly on the wall documentary following a team of real detectives in Manchester's police. This was the first of what will be a 4 part series. Some very good night time filming adds to the atmosphere.

Download here:

https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/186...ERNAL.XviD-AFG

Or watch the full episode via YouTube:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=rASmH_XMNsY
22-09-2017, 03:24 PM
SKkin

Anyone been watching the Ken Burns/Lynn Novick Vietnam doco from PBS? I've watched some of it...but it just pisses me off and makes me sick at the same time.

The Vietnam War: A film by Ken Burns & Lynn Novick

sponsored by Bank of America. :rolleyes::spin: "All wars are banker's wars."

Part 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWeQM8rRI7s
22-09-2017, 03:39 PM
Davis Knowlton

[QUOTE=SKkin;3633433]Anyone been watching the Ken Burns/Lynn Novick Vietnam doco from PBS? I've watched some of it...but it just pisses me off and makes me sick at the same time.

Nope. Passed. Knew it would piss me off.
22-09-2017, 03:48 PM
hick

At the risk of pissing you both off...what's the crux of the matter?

Is it that wars don't have a financial base, or something deeper?
22-09-2017, 03:54 PM
SKkin

Quote:

Originally Posted by hick

what's the crux of the matter?

For me, looking back, it was the lies from the top that got us there. It was all such a goddamned waste of lives(not just the dead) on all sides. For what?

Not to mention, it seems to me, nothing was learned from the Vietnam War.
22-09-2017, 03:54 PM
Davis Knowlton

Quote:

Originally Posted by hick

At the risk of pissing you both off...what's the crux of the matter?

Is it that wars don't have a financial base, or something deeper?

Apologies, but I don't understand your question.
22-09-2017, 04:02 PM
hick

Well,....what was it about the docu's premise that would potentially piss you off.

If I remember correctly (Davis) - you're a war veteran.

(can't view link above - on phone now)
22-09-2017, 04:18 PM
Davis Knowlton

Quote:

Originally Posted by hick

Well,....what was it about the docu's premise that would potentially piss you off.

If I remember correctly (Davis) - you're a war veteran.

I was a grunt in the 101st Airborne LRRP teams during the bloodiest year (68-69) of the war - we fought in six major campaigns during that year. I lost a lot of friends killed, wounded, or simply damaged - including a number of good friends from High School. I don't watch documentaries because I normally hate the way grunts are portrayed - by people who weren't there. I was 19, as were my friends. We didn't start the war, we just went, and then tried our best to stay alive, and keep each other alive. I don't need a history lesson. Fine for others if they please, just not for me.
22-09-2017, 04:20 PM
hick

Roger that, Davis.
22-09-2017, 04:43 PM
SKkin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

I was 19, as were my friends. We didn't start the war, we just went, and then tried our best to stay alive, and keep each other alive.

I understand that...what pisses me off was that it was all pointless. Except for the select few who profited from the miseries you and others went through. You and others like you should have never been put into that situation to begin with.

Can I ask...did you and others at the time believe the reasons given for being sent to Vietnam? Or did you know deep down that it was all BS?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

or simply damaged

Yes I'm too young to have been there, but I witnessed many of the damaged back home. Several of them were co-workers of my Dad...and then later on as I grew older co-workers of mine. Just about all of them refused to talk about it. But it fucked up their lives. Again...for what?
22-09-2017, 04:58 PM
hick

Davis, I was going to post further but was called away for a moment:

Thank you for your service. I know it's a little dated, but I assure you that the gratitude is sincere.
22-09-2017, 04:59 PM
Davis Knowlton

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKkin

Can I ask...did you and others at the time believe the reasons given for being sent to Vietnam? Or did you know deep down that it was all BS?

Honestly, I don't recall anyone ever giving us reasons. "Line up and board the aircraft" was about it. Once there, I don't recall any deep philosophical/intellectual conversations about the war. Conversations were about weapons, food, cars, pussy and booze. Most of us were fairly fatalistic. I was more terrified during my last 30 days - simply because I never thought I'd get that close to actually making it.
22-09-2017, 07:53 PM
SKkin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

I don't watch documentaries because I normally hate the way grunts are portrayed - by people who weren't there.

I was going to say earlier that from the parts of Burn's Doco I've watched, I actually thought the "grunts" POV was being presented pretty sympathetically. You may have a different opinion though. That however is not what pissed me off about it. Listening to "officialdom" from back then did that.
23-09-2017, 04:35 AM
DJ Pat

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAG

Last night started watching a BBC2 offering, "The Detectives: Murder on the streets". For the first few minutes I thought I was watching a fictional series, but no, it's actually a fly on the wall documentary following a team of real detectives in Manchester's police. This was the first of what will be a 4 part series. Some very good night time filming adds to the atmosphere.

Thanks for that. Waiting for Ep2. Keep us posted.

Brighton Police is the same fly on the wall show, but set in Brighton.

https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2017/09/400.jpg

Waiting for Ep3 to appear, but here are the first two:

Ep 2: ''Attack from Prison''

https://pirateproxy.cam/torrent/1846...UB.WEBRIP.MPup

Ep 1: ''Armed robbery''

https://pirateproxy.cam/torrent/18410803/The_Brighton_Police.s01e01.EN.SUB.MPEG4.x264.WEBRI P.[MPup]
23-09-2017, 04:45 AM
Jimmy McNulty

Enjoying Netflix new crime documentary series the Confession Tapes. First two episodes focused on a single story. Third episode is the beginning of a new one so I assume it'll be a number of different cases covered over a season.
23-09-2017, 04:54 AM
DJ Pat

^I've just found a few episodes of that, thanks for the tip off, I'll watch a few later.

https://pirateproxy.cam/search/the%2...20tapes/0/99/0
29-09-2017, 11:35 AM
PAG

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ Pat

Thanks for that. Waiting for Ep2. Keep us posted.

Second one up now: https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/186...elistContainer
29-09-2017, 12:26 PM
DJ Pat

I've watched the first 5 now. Brilliant and thought/anger provoking stuff.

And it ain't for binge watching. One episode per night is more than enough.
29-09-2017, 03:16 PM
Thai3

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKkin

For me, looking back, it was the lies from the top that got us there. It was all such a goddamned waste of lives(not just the dead) on all sides. For what?

Not to mention, it seems to me, nothing was learned from the Vietnam War.

Surely we learned that the war escalated mostly due to LBJ rescinding JFK's order to start withdraw troops within days of becoming president. That LBJ bastard was the biggest crook, liar and murderer ever to hold that office.
29-09-2017, 05:29 PM
Davis Knowlton

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAG

Last night started watching a BBC2 offering, "The Detectives: Murder on the streets". For the first few minutes I thought I was watching a fictional series, but no, it's actually a fly on the wall documentary following a team of real detectives in Manchester's police. This was the first of what will be a 4 part series. Some very good night time filming adds to the atmosphere.

Download here:

https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/186...ERNAL.XviD-AFG

Or watch the full episode via YouTube:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=rASmH_XMNsY

I'm struggling through it. I almost never have a problem with accents, but these folks sound like they have a mouthful of shit.
29-09-2017, 06:32 PM
harrybarracuda

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thai3

Surely we learned that the war escalated mostly due to LBJ rescinding JFK's order to start withdraw troops within days of becoming president. That LBJ bastard was the biggest crook, liar and murderer ever to hold that office.

And we also learned that Nixon committed treason to get elected (as did Reagan), and Johnson covered it up.
29-09-2017, 06:34 PM
harrybarracuda

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

I'm struggling through it. I almost never have a problem with accents, but these folks sound like they have a mouthful of shit.

You can struggle through episode 2 now. It's up on EZTV. That's how they talk up there, they're funny.
29-09-2017, 06:52 PM
Davis Knowlton

^Just finishing EP2. Not only do they talk funny, but they're all fat and butt-ugly.
29-09-2017, 10:17 PM
harrybarracuda

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

^Just finishing EP2. Not only do they talk funny, but they're all fat and butt-ugly.

Yep, once you get north of Watford, they go rapidly downhill.

Go a bit further and you hit Scotland.
29-09-2017, 11:10 PM
DJ Pat

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAG

Last night started watching a BBC2 offering, "The Detectives: Murder on the streets". For the first few minutes I thought I was watching a fictional series, but no, it's actually a fly on the wall documentary following a team of real detectives in Manchester's police. This was the first of what will be a 4 part series. Some very good night time filming adds to the atmosphere.

Part two appeared yesterday

https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/186...01E02.XviD-AFG

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