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    This is my at home setup that I have connected to my PC. Tube amp with my DAC next to it. Tubes have been rolled to custom JJ 6V6S's and a the little one in the middle is a RCA Conn clear top 12AU7A that was made sometime in the 1960's it is known for one of the most desirable tubes. I then plug my Sennheiser HD650's into those and the sound is amazing.



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    ^ is that power overkill? I've had 20w guitar amps with less power than your setup, and I could still be heard half way down the street when I had the volume on a third... Do digital PC files justify that kinda amp? Do your speakers? Looks like overkill to me, but if it sounds good to you and floats your boat then fandabby double dozy...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    How many of the recommendations on this thread have you actually tried?

    It's just powdered milk
    Well, I have loved headphones for many years, owned many pairs and tried a lot, a LOT, in shops. I am also a very boring fellow... Just today, I was in a coffee shop testing out headphones (a couple of amps/DACs too) with a friend of mine; you will be happy to know that both my Samsung buds and Shure SE535s sounded good.

    In ear audio recommendations-20190731_141522-jpg

    BTW, the cheapest wired headphones ($50) sounded better than any of the bluetooth sets, and I find it very hard to imagine that any bluetooth headset can sound anywhere near as good as a pair of wired Shure SE215s - when I used a Shure Bluetooth band the siound quality dropped dramatically using the same source... Certainly, my mate's Sony WH1000 bluetooth headset sounds nowhere near as good as my SE535 wired buds.
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    ^^ Nice rig Snub

    ^ your taste in Tomcat-esque shirts marks you down as having no ear for bass and only fit for audio advice on Electro music and The Communards, and Marc Almonds greatest hits

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post

    Flash the cash Boo, you know you want to.

    https://www.amazon.com/FiiO-Balacned...gateway&sr=8-2
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Actually this is even better (and cheaper).

    https://www.amazon.com/PLENUE-Silver...gateway&sr=8-8


    Just ordered one for the hell of it.

    I have been tempted a few times. The Sony stuff is now crazy expensive at 1000 pounds+, so too much for what it is, and I had an audioquest Dragonfly DAC which was extremely underwhelming (may still have it in a draw somewhere or maybe I gave it away...). I would like a high quality music solution when I move back to the UK.


    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    batty being an EE should be able to tell you about ADC's and DAC's - but still you are arguing about digital representation of an analogue waveform and the bits of your converters is just a penis extension quibble

    the accuracy of the op-amps in the original input conversion and your output DAC and the engineering control of your transistors in your amplifier circuit which is driving your linear motors is what will decide on the accuracy of the sound you recieve

    and the upshot of the above is - just buy what sounds good to you and is cheap

    Digital sound is crap, t'is true. 30 years ago I had a Nakamichi casette deck which I recorded the top 40 from the radio then played back later - sounded much better than any of the digital solutions discussed.



    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    beyond the fappinations of the audiophiles whose acute hearing is the result of wanking more than the rest of us .....

    more important for wired earphones is which ones have the best anti tangle mechanism ?
    I like good sound, some folks don't worry too much; personally, I'm happy to spend money on decent sound. Playing headphones back to back you can certainly tell big differences, but many of the differences are preferences rather than better or worse sounds. Although, my Shure SE535s sounded a million miles better than Chinese $30 bluetooth in-ears or the $70 Chinese over-ear cans (which were pretty decent sounding for the money).

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    Boo you cheap bastard, buy a fucking coffee. You're worse than them teflers in Starbucks.

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    ^ it was a double table, on the other table was my grande latte and blueberry yogurt smoothy - total cost over $10, and I was only there about 3 hours!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    ^^ Nice rig Snub

    ^ your taste in Tomcat-esque shirts marks you down as having no ear for bass and only fit for audio advice on Electro music and The Communards, and Marc Almonds greatest hits
    My mate is a good bloke, an Aussie like Badders, so be nice to him; everyone knows Aussies have no dress sense.

    How did you Know? I love this song!





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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    many of the differences are preferences rather than better or worse sounds.
    There we have it, music, like food is subjective.

    And taking any kind of advice from someone who has spent 5000 dollars on an Apple product this year that he can't even take into Starbucks is to be avoided at all costs imho


    I'm no audiophile but for me those TRN are a a million times better than the shitty AKGs that come bundled with Samsung phones and pound for pound are easily the best bang for your buck around,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    I'm no audiophile but for me those TRN are a a million times better than the shitty AKGs that come bundled with Samsung phones and pound for pound are easily the best bang for your buck around,
    Watch this:



    Give those silly Chinese things to the kids and get yeeself some Galaxy buds!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Give those silly Chinese things to the kids and get yeeself some Galaxy buds!
    You are a thick one eh...

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    ^ there's no telling some people

    . The one substantial weakness to the sound is a detectable shortage of bass that makes music sound like a puddle: splashy and shallow. It’s not in any way an offensive sound signature, but it’s far from the thick, satisfying rumble of something like the Jabra Elite 65t or the Audio-Technica SPORT7TW. I’d say Samsung’s sound is acceptable, pushing at the upper limits of average.
    https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/8/18...specs-features

    Samsung and their shitty AKG freebies again

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    I have no real idea what that is, even with the explanation,,,,,But I want one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    there's no telling some people


    Quote Originally Posted by Jack meoff View Post
    I have no real idea what that is, even with the explanation,,,,,But I want one.
    That is a tube headphone amplifier. The tubes work magic on the sound and add warmth, sound stage, and a analog edge to the music. Different types and brands of tubes do different things to the sound. So the hobby of "tube rolling" where you collect new and vintage tubes and swap them in and out of your amps is pretty popular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    You are a thick one eh...
    Snubby, I understand you like these TRN things, but they are just good value at the price point, nothing more...

    I've read many reviews on them and everyone considers the similarly priced Tin Audio T2s a lot better... I listened to the Tin Audio T2s the other day (see the pic above), and they are nice, nowhere near the level of the Shure SE215s; not in the same ball park. The TRN bluetooth versions are obviously a further sonic step down.

    To compare, the bluetooth TRNs do not sound as good as the wired TRNs which are not as good as the wired Tin Audio T2s which did not sound as good as the bluetooth Samsung Buds. Comparing the Tin Audio wired T2s (which are better than the TRNs in all departments...) to my wired Shure SE535s was laughable (yes, even on poorish quality mp3s). The really noticeable elements are dynamics, sonic balance and soundstaging.

    If you are happy with your sub $50 TRNs that's great, but it's ignorance to claim they are in the same league as products costing far more money. For some folk with poor hearing, they maybe can't hear much difference. &, for some folks, while at the gym, they just want some ok sounding music then the TRNs make sense. The TRNs no doubt have good sound for the price, but can't compete with $100 headphones or the best $50 headphones.

    You have been told.

    the Tin Audio T2 are in a completely different class: their neutral-leaning signature makes them sound completely unlike the V80. Bass is of course less extended and pronounced, but midrange is more in the “hot spot” and is therefore better heard, while treble is slightly more extended and detailed. Technically speaking, the T2 have the upper hand in almost every respect – be it detail retrieval, soundstage width and depth, imaging or sound separation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack meoff View Post


    I have no real idea what that is, even with the explanation,,,,,But I want one.
    When it hits 88 miles an hour, you go back in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    The TRNs no doubt have good sound for the price, but can't compete with $100 headphones or the best $50 headphones.
    They are 25 dollar earphones you tedious fuck that sound far far superior to standard earphones that come with phones.
    A lot of people will tell you they are better than the TINs
    And they will be better than your gay Samsung wireless buds too

    But until you have tried them you will never know you absolute cockwomble

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    nowhere near the level of the Shure SE215s; not in the same ball park.
    I have listened to those and found the sound to be lacking so I disagree. I listened to the TIN's when I made my decision and I think both sound better than the SE215's. I think at this point you are just trying to validate your purchase and nothing else. SE215 are nothing special and are overpriced for what they are. You are clearly a fan boy of the name brands having dropped names like beats, shure etc. Beats are complete trash and a scam. Until you get over $400 Shure is not really that great either the ChiFi stuff is very popular amongst audiophiles. So frankly since you claim to be an one I was surprised when you had no idea what it was. Do you ever read headfi.org? You should because you have a lot to learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    You are clearly a fan boy of the name brands having dropped names like beats, shure etc
    .... And Starbucks, Apple, Samsung, AKG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    .... And Starbucks, Apple, Samsung, AKG
    Take no prisoners Dill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Do you ever read headfi.org?

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    ^ those pink Beats are nice, where can I get meself some of those???


    Now, you dumb as fuk snarffers... I sat down a couple of day's ago at Cafe Pascucci, and went through me mate's Chi-fi, 3 songs, on all headphones which were Chi-Fi from $50 to $270, through the little DACs and 'analog' amplifier, my Samsung Note, his LG V whatever with decent onboard DAC. Three hours of fun, fun, fun...

    &, our agreed results (the fella is a professional musician, so knows his music, has good ears, etc...), all the stuff we had sounded good, but different. As you went up the price ranges there were noticeable improvements in sound. The $50 Chi-fi sounded good, but not as good as the $100 Chi-fi which sounded good, but not as good as the $150 Chi-fi which sounded good, but not as good as the $270 Chi-fi which sounded good, but not quite as good as the Shure SE 535s (which to me are nice sounding, but not $450 sounding - well, it's hard to say a value, but they didn't sound that much better than the $270 Chi-fi set).

    Also, there's a difference in sound between bluetooth and wired; wired have more frequencies, well more everything - the bluetooth protocol is very limited and does not produce great sound, full-stop. Having said that, the 2 Chi-fi bluetooth sets ($50 in-ear bluetooth and $70 over-ear wired) sounded nice for the money; neither were as nice as Beats X or Beats Power Pro (since Beats joined Apple they have changed their sound signature a lot, and are not at all comparable to the old Beats which were Dr Dre stuff - they are still expensive though).

    Next, drivers, we had various different driver numbers and types, but you can't say that 2 drivers are better than 3 or 3 drivers are better than 2 - the complete sound comes together, some lower driver sounds were better than higher driver sounds; depends how they were engineered and integrated, so many parametres. For example, I thought the Tin Audio set with 2 drivers (only $50) sounded more complete across the sound spectrum than the 3 driver, more expensive, Tin audio buds.

    The cheapest sets, under $70, including the Tins, were noticeable less good sounding than any pair at a higher pricepoint - the difference was large. At the other end of the scale, the $270 Chi-fi set were pretty close to my Shure SE535s; I wouldn't buy the Shure's again at that pricepoint because even though they are better than others I've heard, it's a pretty small improvement for something a few hundred dollars more.

    Sitting down, swapping between headphones on the same songs' two people's honest opinions, gives a good appraisal, so I'll stick with my comments/conclusions - it was a decent and fair test.

    So, are TRNs good for $30-50 - yes they are. Are the TRNs as good as $100-150 headphones - most certainly not in the ballpark, not even close. Are the TRNs as good sounding as the Samsung Buds or Shure SE215s - no. Are the TRNs better value for money than the Samsung Buds - depends what you want, so not for me because the added $100 is a few beers on a night out, but to others that feel differently and/or have different needs then maybe.

    If Dilly is happy then it's good for him. If Snubby is happy (ignoring his wild and incorrect claims) then good for him. I'll keep going to Starbucks (with my over-priced, but cute, MacBook), using my over-priced 33,000 baht Note 9 (which I don't particularly like...), drinking Grande Lattes and using my lovely little Samsung Buds. So, you fellas can suk my old, ugly, battle scarred and puss ridden cock, but please don't forget to give a little attention to my balls too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    So, are TRNs good for $30-50 - yes they are
    Nearly there.... but I guess that's the best I'm gonna get from you

    but the real answer is- they are fucking brilliant and punch much much higher than their weight.
    Quad drivers, aluminium casings, removable cable and great bassy sound in iems for 25 bucks.
    What's not to love?


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    ^ for $25, not a lot not to love.

    Now, I'm off to your healthy eating thread to post a picture of a double whopper with extra bacon and cheese!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Are the TRNs as good as $100-150 headphones - most certainly not in the ballpark, not even close.
    Maybe not headphones but IEM's they most definitely are and there are countless people on Headfi that would disagree with you. Like I said you are just trying to justify the fact that you have thrown money down the toilet on a bunch of name brand trash.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    for $25, not a lot not to love.
    Maybe you should find a new hobby.

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    Please stop, I'm trying to watch the cricket - haven't you got some rounders to watch?

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