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    Bum nuts and chickens in pyjamas: the words Australians use for food

    Bum nuts and chickens in pyjamas: the words Australians use for food | Amanda Laugesen | The Guardian

    Do you like to go out for a halal snack pack? Do you enjoy your sausage sizzle at Bunnings? Or perhaps you prefer to indulge in eating a snot block or a slice of pav? The Australian English lexicon is full of food words and as chief editor of The Australian National Dictionary: Australian Words and Their Origins, it’s my job to collect them and put them in the dictionary.

    The dictionary (first edition 1988, second edition 2016) records the words that are unique to Australia, are first used here, or have special significance in Australia. Our team researches the origins of the word and tells its story, in the style of the Oxford English Dictionary, through a collection of quotations. The dictionary – which will be launched online later in 2023 – is a record of Australia’s past and present captured in the words we use.
    [A] feature of the Australian English lexicon is our tendency to abbreviate words and add an ‘o’ or ‘ie/y’ ending to them

    Every year we put out an appeal for words related to a particular theme and last year we collected food words . While we had plenty of food words already in the dictionary, we were certain that there were more out there. And sure enough we received from the public many colourful and fun terms to add to our database, affirming that Australians can be pretty creative when it comes to talking about their food.

    One of the terms we had already collected – but not yet put into the dictionary – was “bum nut” for an egg. We have “goog” in the dictionary (first recorded in 1919) but “bum nut” is looking like a potential contender to be added – so far we have managed to record it back to 1986. Our appeal confirmed Australians’ familiarity with the term, along with a few lesser-known variations on the theme such as “butt nugget”, “fart cartridge” and “pre-nugget”.

    Slang terms abound in our vocabulary and food has not been spared the kind of humour whereby some of us call a vanilla slice a “snot block” and a pie a “rat coffin” or “maggot bag”. The appeal gave us some new ones: “dandruff cake” for lamington, “bachelor’s breakfast” for meat pie, “dead fly pie” and “blowfly slice” for a fruit mince pie and “fart fodder” for baked beans.

    Rhyming slang, a renowned feature of Australian English and an important subset of slang, also featured prominently in the contributions we received. While we were already familiar with terms like “dog’s eye” (meat pie) and “dead horse” (sauce), new rhyming slang contributions included “black horse” for Worcestershire sauce, “Harold Holt” for salt, “Greg Chappell” for apple, “dad and mum” for rum, and “dark and nasty” for pasty. Plays on pronunciation also featured, such as “horse’s doover” for hors d’oeuvre, “chicken in pyjamas” for chicken parmigiana and “sparrow’s guts” for asparagus.

    Yet another feature of the Australian English lexicon is our tendency to abbreviate words and add an “o” or “ie/y” ending to them. One of our notable contributions on this front was “scrambo” for scrambled eggs. Regional terms are an example of where we see these endings and abbreviations used – such as parma v parmie v parmo. While we weren’t alerted to any new variants of these regional debates – in which much emotional energy is invested – I was reminded of how much people expect a lexicographer to settle the debate once and for all. (The answer from a historical lexicographer is, of course, that all forms are equally legitimate, as long as there is real evidence that they exist.)

    Other contributions to our appeal included “bush doughnut” for a type of doughnut made while camping, “poor man’s pizza” for a slice of toast with tomato sauce put into the sandwich maker and “tucker trap” for a restaurant.
    How many of these words that we’ve collected will make it into the dictionary? All the contributions we receive are recorded in our database and then we do the hard work of researching them to determine whether they are, in fact, Australian and whether we can find good evidence of their usage. If we find that a word is indeed Australian and we have evidence of its use across a period of time, it can make it into the dictionary.

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    First time I was in Australia I was confused by talk of chook for dinner. My friends kids screamed with laughter when I asked what a chook was.

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    On this side of the ditch we also have the sausage sizzle, not only from Bunnings, but also Mitre 10 and of course the Warehouse AKA The Big Red Shed. We're all familiar with a slice of pav. The rest? As said, "ya learn something new each day."

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    A Parmo - consisting of a breaded cutlet of chicken or pork topped with a white béchamel sauce and cheese, usually cheddar cheese with salad and chips - is probably the most popular take away item up in Teesside

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    ^ and contributor to rife obesity at about 1500 Kcals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy As Larry View Post
    A Parmo
    parmie

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    I was once offered a spider to drink outside of a Bunnings in Perth. I said that I don't normally drink spiders but apparently it was a coke with a dollop of icecream (if I remember correctly).

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    parmie

    Parma


    fookin heathens

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    I was once offered a spider to drink outside of a Bunnings in Perth. I said that I don't normally drink spiders but apparently it was a coke with a dollop of icecream (if I remember correctly).

    You remember well. A favourite treat!

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    i never heard of half of these terms.
    and i is dinkum.

    these journo's sprout pork pies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    Parma
    fookin heathens
    Parmo, it came from Middlesbrough

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    ^Parmi or Parmy is the typical Aussie slang for them, and unless there's a Middlesbrough in America you're wrong about that part too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    parmie
    It may be a parmie down your way but in teesside it is a parmo

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    ^ you tell him, it was the Romans that brought it to Middlesbrough

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    Even in the North Eastern State of Thailand they're called a Parmi

    Bum nuts and chickens in pyjamas: the words Australians use for food-20230121_145622-jpg

    The bloke that posted that is an Aussie BTW.

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    ^ Thatchers on tap! Where is this place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    ^ Thatchers on tap! Where is this place?
    When i was in Bangkok recently, I saw a few British ciders for sale in the bars including Thatchers.

    250 - 350 fucking baht!

    How often do you do those passport runs?

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    ^^Soi LK Metro, in Pattaya.

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    Parma in the Food & Arts Capital of the country!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    Parma in the Food & Arts Capital of the country!
    Middlesbrough?

    Parmo - Wikipedia

    Nutritional information[edit]

    In 2007, North Yorkshire Trading Standards conducted a survey of 25 fast food dishes. A large parmo with chips and salad they tested contained about 2,600 calories and 150g of fat.[7]

    Actually, reading that, it must be American. Only those fat fuckers could create this amount of junk in one meal.

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    Reading the OP though, the "best" Australian food (Australian cuisine ) is basically what we more refined Brits would consider some of the worst of British food, isn't it?

    Think Chitty as head chef with Pattaya Plies as the sous chef for your average Australian meal.

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    ^Says someone who can't understand how anyone could prefer a steak over whatever Bangla's are putting in front of him

    Stick to being an expert on soccer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx View Post
    ^Says someone who can't understand how anyone could prefer a steak over whatever Bangla's are putting in front of him

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    Funnily enough, I'm just finishing off an Ahmed-inspired masterpiece at the moment. Photos to come on the dinner thread tomorrow.

    Beware though, this is a beef dish with flavour, so maybe not one for you steak bores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx View Post
    ^Says someone who can't understand how anyone could prefer a steak over whatever Bangla's are putting in front of him

    Stick to being an expert on soccer.

    Can you see the obvious problem here?

    Expert? football? a Brittle?


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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    parmie
    Although being an honorary cane toad I refuse to lose my mexican "accent."
    It's a Parma not parmy, a Mell not a Mall, and a potato cake, not a potato scallop (Cockroach ville, cane toad ville and sandgroper land) or potato fritter, (croweater land).

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