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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    My new bestest friend on TD


    Oi, you started it . . . Hmm, also not the best thing . . .


    Pre-pesca diet I loved pies with wild boar. My mother's side of the family is French from the area around Reims, lots of good hunting places I'm told - not interested in it myself. These people know how to eat, drink and have a good time.

    Ok, my sugestion: Wild Boar Pies.

    Oh. That's haram/not kosher as well . . . won't do for Chef's new rello








    Mix chopped prawns with a good hearty fish, add fennel . . . and/or possibly coriander. A thick, creamy sauce - perhaps leaning toward béchamel style.
    Sounds like a plan, im not too keen on cold bechamel myself but at least it will look like i made some effort....

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Mix chopped prawns with a good hearty fish, add fennel . . . and/or possibly coriander. A thick, creamy sauce - perhaps leaning toward béchamel style.
    On toast or crackers maybe, but not in a pork pie case please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    I´m left wanting when game is involved, Switch.

    Always a bit of a let down.

    Pork pie all day long.
    Game pie is an acquired taste, but on the whole I think we can agree.

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    having lived in yorkshire 70's pork pies are real.
    here in thailand it is difficult to get the proper,lard and mace.
    as for the filling this past 6months i have been buying the minced bacon blocks [TGM] most supermarkets.
    white peppercorns.
    nutmeg.
    smoked paprika.
    mince the bacon blocks with mash potato ond onion add some salt.
    roll the filling into golf ball sizes to fill the pie leaving gaps so the jelly fills around the pie.
    now for the pastry,i use frozen ready made puff or all purpose from mackro.
    when the pies are cooked put in the fridge overnight so morning time pour in the jelly.apple sauce,chicken stock add geletine,when the jelly is set put in the fridge again if you dont the heat will melt the jelly.i will tempt mendip to come and try one with a can of thatchers cider.then post a photo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    On toast or crackers maybe, but not in a pork pie case please.
    Oh, now we are such gastronomical hoi-polois that we talk about pie 'cases' pairings . . . pffft.

    Grumble grumble

    Pies . . .


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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    My new bestest friend on TD


    Oi, you started it . . . Hmm, also not the best thing . . .


    Pre-pesca diet I loved pies with wild boar. My mother's side of the family is French from the area around Reims, lots of good hunting places I'm told - not interested in it myself. These people know how to eat, drink and have a good time.

    Ok, my sugestion: Wild Boar Pies.

    Oh. That's haram/not kosher as well . . . won't do for Chef's new rello








    Mix chopped prawns with a good hearty fish, add fennel . . . and/or possibly coriander. A thick, creamy sauce - perhaps leaning toward béchamel style.
    Quote Originally Posted by headhunter View Post
    having lived in yorkshire 70's pork pies are real.
    here in thailand it is difficult to get the proper,lard and mace.
    as for the filling this past 6months i have been buying the minced bacon blocks [TGM] most supermarkets.
    white peppercorns.
    nutmeg.
    smoked paprika.
    mince the bacon blocks with mash potato ond onion add some salt.
    roll the filling into golf ball sizes to fill the pie leaving gaps so the jelly fills around the pie.
    now for the pastry,i use frozen ready made puff or all purpose from mackro.
    when the pies are cooked put in the fridge overnight so morning time pour in the jelly.apple sauce,chicken stock add geletine,when the jelly is set put in the fridge again if you dont the heat will melt the jelly.i will tempt mendip to come and try one with a can of thatchers cider.then post a photo.
    Oh well now you have started a whole new question.
    Jelly in a pork pie.
    Personally, Jelly adds nothing to the enjoyment of a pie for me. It used to be that it would help keep the meat from going off and also keep it moist but with modern refrigeration and cooking methods i say lose the jelly, add more meat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef Basics with Baz View Post
    So i made a tutorial for a English classic but honestly I rarely actually put pork in mine, i generally do a curried goat filling or minted lamb.
    What would you suggest as something to try?
    I love a good pork pie. It's been a while, you have provoked an urge to find a good one.

    I would have thought lamb might be a bit fatty? Goat sounds like a leaner option.

    If it needs to be halal, how about turkey, or ostrich? Maybe too lean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    I love a good pork pie. It's been a while, you have provoked an urge to find a good one.

    I would have thought lamb might be a bit fatty? Goat sounds like a leaner option.

    If it needs to be halal, how about turkey, or ostrich? Maybe too lean?
    Good thinking but as you say, lean meats dont tend to do well with the long cook time.

    The lamb filling i use is usually braised shanks or neck so its cooked and fat rendered before its minted and pressed into the pastry. Its pretty good if I do say so myself, just make sure to taste the filling before using to prevent toothpaste pies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef Basics with Baz View Post
    Jelly
    Sorry, but that stuff is simply


    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    If it needs to be halal,
    . . . or kosher, let's not be too hasty . . .

    But yes - also, if they are kosher or halal the meat has to be as well, based on how it has been killed and then the whole imam/rabbi thing, transportation, preparation, utensils etc... has to come into it

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Sorry, but that stuff is simply



    . . . or kosher, let's not be too hasty . . .

    But yes - also, if they are kosher or halal the meat has to be as well, based on how it has been killed and then the whole imam/rabbi thing, transportation, preparation, utensils etc... has to come into it
    This is to be a halal pie, the person in question is not mega strict, he is happy to have alcohol and he smokes but will not touch pork. I dont get it myself as i am not religious in any way and am not one for getting involved with peoples beliefs as i rarely find it enlightening.

    I tend to find the kosher diet more troublesome as you have stated, strict Jews are incredibly difficult to cater for as you pretty much just cant. Unless of course you happen to be a Rabbi. I am not a Rabbi.

    Is it unchristmas-like to tell guests that if they have dietary requirements to just bring their own food? That sure would solve a lot of problems!

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    ...and SPAM.
    Last edited by HuangLao; 22-11-2020 at 10:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    To please Mendip you can add peas and carrot.
    I love pork pies and as you seem to know, I love my peas.

    But peas and carrots in a pork pie would just be weird!

    Quote Originally Posted by headhunter View Post
    i will tempt mendip to come and try one with a can of thatchers cider.then post a photo.
    Get cooking HH... I'll supply the Thatchers.

    Just make sure you put a long 'use by' date on them... it could take me a while to get there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef Basics with Baz View Post
    Jelly in a pork pie.
    Personally, Jelly adds nothing to the enjoyment of a pie for me.
    Aspic jelly surrounding the meat is all part of the pork pie experience and should never be left out.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Hat
    Sorry, but that stuff is simply
    Clearly, there's a foreigner amongst us....

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Sorry, but that stuff is simply it

    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Aspic jelly surrounding the meat is all part of the pork pie experience and should never be left out.
    I love the jelly in a pork pie, but a lot of places dont do it anymore. It was only at the local butchers recently where I could get my pork pie jelly fix!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    I love the jelly in a pork pie, but a lot of places dont do it anymore. It was only at the local butchers recently where I could get my pork pie jelly fix!
    I have noticed the same thing, i supposed that they are changing the recipe to suite the taste of the modern generation of porkers. Again, i can take it or leave it, although as far as aspic versus a chicken stock jelly, i will take the flavoured jelly over aspic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    I love the jelly in a pork pie
    I feel sorry for you....


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    Mmmmmm....jelly.....baked beans...baked beans AND jelly.

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    A pork pie, or variation thereof, must have aspic or equivalent- otherwise it is dry and unpleasant.

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    The Tartelet
    As with the Sandwich, contents are best out in the open

    Hen in asparagus
    or shrimps in asparagus


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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    The Tartelet
    As with the Sandwich, contents are best out in the open

    Hen in asparagus
    or shrimps in asparagus

    Sorry, you have lost me here. What are you saying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    I feel sorry for you....

    Clearly another foreigner amongst us...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef Basics with Baz View Post
    Sorry, you have lost me here. What are you saying?
    I think he's trying to tell you that pork pie haters are tarts...

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    ^

    ^^

    Don't ruin my poor jokes

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    one for the yorkie's,best pork pies,kingsly dog track club housenormanton high st.butchers,pie shop next to pontefact bus station.pontypridd indoor market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    A pork pie, or variation thereof, must have aspic or equivalent- otherwise it is dry and unpleasant.
    By the way, sabang, this is impossible. There is no such thing as an unpleasant pork pie. Similar to curries, some just aren't as good as others.

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