Experiences with your luk khreung child

**astasinim** · 19-03-2011, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by astasinim

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Something, it's just occurred to me, that those of us with Loog Khreung children need to think seriously about.

Ive often wondered if my lad will have any issues when he`s older, but, haven't yet found any reason as to why he would. What could be the possible reasons for these conflicting feelings?

That's something that deserves a thread in itself and something I need to think about before writing any kind of detailed response. I'll admit its been worrying me lately, for various reasons.

Very, very, basically, it comes down to a Loog khreung being a farang in Thailand and an Asian in the West

The above quote has prompted me to start this thread.

Ive seen documentaries on the subject before, but, they were mainly focused on kids from a black and white background. Like Bob said above, these kids felt they were viewed as black in the UK, and White in the Caribbean (for example).

My lad starts school this year, and has been at pre school for almost two. So far, I have seen no evidence of other kids treating him any different to the others.

We live in a semi rural community where most people with any history here know one another. To date, we haven't encountered anything negative with regards our sons duel heritage. If anything, its been very positive. When we've visited Thailand, we have had similar experiences. Ok, we sometimes get mucky looks whilst in Bangkok, but, thats aimed more at Me and the Mrs, than the young un. Whilst up country, the locals seem to accept him just the same way as they do in the UK.

What worries me most is, will he still have the same acceptance once he becomes a teenager, or will peoples prejudices begin to show by then. Im rather optimistic, and dont think he`ll have any more problems growing up than any other teenager.

What are other peoples experiences/thoughts on the subject?

**slimboyfat** · 19-03-2011, 09:28 PM

DJ Pat seems to have turned out a very pleasant and balanced individual

**astasinim** · 19-03-2011, 09:33 PM

It would be very interesting to hear his first hand experiences.

**somtamslap** · 19-03-2011, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by astasinim

What worries me most is, will he still have the same acceptance once he becomes a teenager

Having taught countless luk khrueng here in Thailand in secondary schools I'd say it's a huge advantage both socially and interlectually..

As far as the UK goes I'm unable to comment..but I'd hazard a guess that it isn't half as beneficial..unfortunately.

**chitown** · 19-03-2011, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by somtamslap

I'd say it's a huge advantage both socially and interlectually..

Can you elaborate?

From what I see, Thais love Luek Khreungs. In the US, it seems White / Asian girls are accepted a lot more than boys. I am not sure why, but I have heard it and seen it many times.

One thing that is sad in the US is that many people think it is fine for a white guy to marry and Asian or Hispanic girl, but criticize a white girl if she marries an Asian or Hispanic man.

**Thetyim** · 19-03-2011, 09:59 PM

I had the same worries as you and watched carefully for any signs of problems.
My daughter is now 22 and my son 18, no problems as far as I can see.

**astasinim** · 19-03-2011, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by somtamslap

Having taught countless luk khrueng here in Thailand in secondary schools I'd say it's a huge advantage both socially and interlectually..

I`d also be interested in hearing what the advantages are.

Originally Posted by somtamslap

As far as the UK goes I'm unable to comment..but I'd hazard a guess that it isn't half as beneficial..unfortunately.

Just so long as he isnt singled out because of his mixed race, then i`ll be happy.

Originally Posted by Thetyim

I had the same worries as you and watched carefully for any signs of problems.
My daughter is now 22 and my son 18, no problems as far as I can see.

Great to hear, and I hope we`re just as fortunate.

**daveboy** · 19-03-2011, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by astasinim

What are other peoples experiences/thoughts on the subject?

My sons 8 now had no problems here in the Uk so far his developing very well, His just recently become aware that his different from other children and if any thing sees it as a bit of cudos.
On the other side of the coin I've seen alot of Thai kids who end up in the Uk struggle badily mainly those that come over in there teens. The younger ones tend to do better.

**Takeovers** · 19-03-2011, 10:48 PM

We never experienced problems for our children here in Germany.

I remember one time when the father of another child approached me, asking if they are really mine or adopted as they look so exotic. He was very careful not to offend me, he was just curious. No problem with curiosity.

Of course he was wrong with the looks, they look at least as much european to Asians or the trained farang eye as they look asian to the average European.

My daughter is a little concerned as she has to give Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, as her birth place. She thinks in combination with her looks possible employers may believe she is of arab origin.

But her exceptional beauty will sure make up for that problem.

**Marmite the Dog** · 20-03-2011, 01:59 AM

The main problem I have is that the Thais want to maul him all the time, then they get the hump when I tell them not to touch him.

**Carrabow** · 20-03-2011, 02:27 AM

I live in a very rural area my son is 15 now and he is well accepted in school and has select friends. When he was younger he was razzed about the obvious and stereotyped as being rich. This has caused him to become skeptical of who his friends are and I am quite happy that growing up it was not easy for him. I say this because it has made him a very determined individual and thick skinned.

He is no longer in the village and attends a private school in the city. I talk to him all the time about the scammers in life and I hope it has sunk in. As with any parent I worry to death about him but as with my father was with me, I feel I have prepared him well enough to handle the next chapter in life. Hopefully he does not run into the pitfalls I have found.

As with any parent I hope he exceeds my expectations, only time and persistence will tell.

**Bob63** · 04-08-2011, 02:44 PM

^Carrabow, is this like a boarding school in the city ? What might such cost, please ?

**Pol the Pot** · 04-08-2011, 03:51 PM

Don't worry too much. Give them as good an education as you can afford, teach them to have an open mind and let them go when they want to go.

They're just like all other children, I know

**Rigger** · 04-08-2011, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

The main problem I have is that the Thais want to maul him all the time, then they get the hump when I tell them not to touch him.

Do you still do the party trick where you pick him up by his head

**Stinky** · 04-08-2011, 05:16 PM

My little man is quite a handful when it comes to other kids taunting him so I've no worries there. My biggest concern is his attention span and how this will affect his schooling when he starts this year. A thai pharmacist friend did warn me that the mix made for a fiery mischievous kid but I didn't believe her, guess I was wrong.

**Rigger** · 04-08-2011, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by Stinky

My little man is quite a handful

Yeh my little fellar thinks he is the boss, struts around telling people what to do and hogs the remote and TV, takes what he wants when he wants and quick to use his fists. Cheeky to strangers and breaks every thing in the house, must take after my wife.
My daughter is completely different very shy quite, sugar wouldn’t melt in her mouth, looks after things she is given and likes her room tidy

**Marmite the Dog** · 04-08-2011, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by Rigger

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

The main problem I have is that the Thais want to maul him all the time, then they get the hump when I tell them not to touch him.

Do you still do the party trick where you pick him up by his head

Yes, but as he's got heavier his neck has started making a few cracking noises.

**Stinky** · 04-08-2011, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Rigger

Originally Posted by Stinky

My little man is quite a handful

Yeh my little fellar thinks he is the boss, struts around telling people what to do and hogs the remote and TV, takes what he wants when he wants and quick to use his fists. Cheeky to strangers and breaks every thing in the house, must take after my wife.
My daughter is completely different very shy quite, sugar wouldn’t melt in her mouth, looks after things she is given and likes her room tidy

It sounds like the lads could be related

So where were you that week I was away

I don't evey you a daughter, great to look after when they're young but far too much to worry about in years to come.

**Bangyai** · 04-08-2011, 05:53 PM

As I remember from my school days the following types of kids got picked on :

Ginger ones ........ carrot top
Fat ones .............. fatty
With glasses ......... four eyes
Good students ....... nurds , geeks , teachers pets.
Man Utd supporters ....... red wankers
tall ones .......... lanky bastards
short ones ................ shortarse
Asean friends .............. wogs
Unhygenic ............... stinky

In fact , if you were not singled out for something , you were doing bloody well !!

When my Thai stepdaughter went to school in the U.K. there were so many of the above misfits that she experienced no problems. However her Thai name did cause some problems. Her name is Sodsuay . This was too much for the other kids so she was given the following nicknames :

Sausage
Soy sauce
Chowmein ( from my surname )

There were others but it didn't last too long as she re invented herself as
' Nicole ' ....... and there ended the problems.

You can't wrap your kids in cotten wool and there are some times that they'll have to find there own way and muddle through like the rest of us. Thats life.
The main thing is to be there for them when they need you and never short change them on love ....... its free after all.

**Marmite the Dog** · 04-08-2011, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Bangyai

You can't wrap your kids in cotten wool and there are some times that they'll have to find there own way and muddle through like the rest of us.

True, but it's very upsetting having your child spend most of his day with retarded kids with retarded parents all chaperoned by retarded teachers.

**superman** · 04-08-2011, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by Bangyai

As I remember from my school days the following types of kids got picked on : Ginger ones ........ carrot top Fat ones .............. fatty With glasses ......... four eyes Good students ....... nurds , geeks , teachers pets. Man Utd supporters ....... red wankers tall ones .......... lanky bastards

What a bummer if you have all six.

**astasinim** · 05-08-2011, 03:46 AM

Originally Posted by Stinky

A thai pharmacist friend did warn me that the mix made for a fiery mischievous kid but I didn't believe her, guess I was wrong.

Sounds like she knows what she`s talking about.

Originally Posted by Stinky

Originally Posted by Rigger

Originally Posted by Stinky

My little man is quite a handful

Yeh my little fellar thinks he is the boss, struts around telling people what to do and hogs the remote and TV, takes what he wants when he wants and quick to use his fists. Cheeky to strangers and breaks every thing in the house, must take after my wife.
My daughter is completely different very shy quite, sugar wouldn’t melt in her mouth, looks after things she is given and likes her room tidy

It sounds like the lads could be related

So where were you that week I was away

I don't evey you a daughter, great to look after when they're young but far too much to worry about in years to come.

Sound like your describing my little fella. It must be the Thai half that makes them like that.

I dont how I would go on if I had a daughter. All I know is, I would constantly remember how I was when I was younger.

The thought alone is enough to turn me to Lao kow.

**CaptainNemo** · 05-08-2011, 05:51 AM

Originally Posted by chitown

Originally Posted by somtamslap

I'd say it's a huge advantage both socially and interlectually..

Can you elaborate?

From what I see, Thais love Luek Khreungs. In the US, it seems White / Asian girls are accepted a lot more than boys. I am not sure why, but I have heard it and seen it many times.

One thing that is sad in the US is that many people think it is fine for a white guy to marry and Asian or Hispanic girl, but criticize a white girl if she marries an Asian or Hispanic man.

The great unspoken but pretty self-evident is that there is an ethnic hierarchy; just like there's a beauty hierarchy.

Just from the adverts, pop music and tv/films you can see that fairer skin and European-ness is preferred all over the world, and it goes hand in hand with every other symbol the forms the brand of globalised modern-ness.

For a blue-eyed blonde to opt for a tinted gentleman is perceived as a downgrade, unless he's a bit european and quite successful (e.g. footballers).

I've always felt that women go for status, and non-euros have to be twice as good to get a look in.

Maybe there's something deep and Freudian based on the physicality of the invasion of "white womanhood" by the dusky savage equating to an invasion and negrification of european territory that brings out the collective angst... as we know you put even a drop of chocolate into a milkshake, and it becomes a chocolate milkshake; but you add milk to a chocolate milkshake, and it's still a chocolate milkshake.

European men have got this thing for "Asian babes", perhaps because feminism has turned a lot of European women into horrible noisy blobs?
So many European men can look to some part of the developing world, particularly the far east, and easily pick up a usually much nicer and nicer-looking bird (whose diet and ethnicity often leads a pleasingly smaller frame).
For the yellow girls, they get to "whiten up", and have white babies with brownish hair and funny coloured eyes (they hope) etc... if they don't find an affluent/well-connected yellow boy.

Maybe it's just that oriental men are generally perceived as less of a physical threat by european men than african or latino men, which makes them less worried about having a go on "their women".

I just like brown nipples, and probably bought into the food and perfect domestic environment thing (plus, let's face it Asian babes are quite easy), but it's boring, and I'd rather try a Brazilian now, or some more golden virginia or russet gusset. =P

None of mine look like either of us, but plenty of local married Korean ladies seemed to like the output at the factory gates, and kept intimating to me that they'd like a portion, but then would giggle and scuttle away when I got my planner out to pencil them in.

Everyone seemed to think they were girls when they were born, all of them seem to be quite tall/big for their ages: my eldest is quite a pretty boy, doesn't look very Thai, and seems a bit studious and gentle; the second is a bit funny looking, but not in an ugly way, seems like more of a John Belushi in the making; and the youngest just a source of constant noise, and looks like Iggy Pop.

I doubt there'd be much problem for them in the UK, because they don't really look or act very "different" from most kids there; but in rural Thailand, I have this paranoia about kidnappers... after hearing stories about kids being nabbed and having their arms and legs mutilated to spend a lifetime as a sort of begger being wheel around the provinces.

**Stinky** · 05-08-2011, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by astasinim

I dont how I would go on if I had a daughter. All I know is, I would constantly remember how I was when I was younger. The thought alone is enough to turn me to Lao kow.

Tell me about it, just watching what my mate has to go through is enough for me to give thanks I've got a boy, he has two girl and a boy, all Luk khreung and his missus just buggered off as the going was getting tough and the eldest girl, who isn't his, is just starting to show an interest in boys, takes after her mother too so should be knocked up before shes old enough to drive. The poor man is struggling.

**astasinim** · 06-08-2011, 01:40 AM

Bugger. 3 kids on his own, thats a tough one.

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