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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    In Isan government schools a qualified Filipino teacher (B.Ed., if you believe the paperwork) gets about B20K per month, paid for 11 months. At the same school, a Native English Speaker TEFLer gets about B30K

    Jaysus!

    That was the going rate (albeit in Bangers) nearly two decades ago and life hasn't gotten cheaper since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan B View Post
    That was the going rate (albeit in Bangers) nearly two decades ago
    Actually, 25-30K was the going rate in government schools in 1990.

    This is a major reason why improving the standard of Thai staff is the only long-term way forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan B View Post
    Jaysus!

    That was the going rate (albeit in Bangers) nearly two decades ago and life hasn't gotten cheaper since then.
    Yes, I heard of TEFLers in Isan getting 40K a decade ago. Then the non-native English teachers such as the Filipinos and French Cameroonians changed the market.

    Last year a big government secondary school here hired 2 Indians. A source at the school told me they were paid B18K. A source outside the school told me that he couldn't understand them when they spoke to him in English. So this year the school has gone for teachers from a well-known agency. A total of 4 teachers at a rate to the school of about B50K per teacher per month.

    It seems the funds are there when someone wants them to be there. At other times those funds just wander off. When I look at the lifestyles of certain school directors (not all) I can speculate as to where those funds might be wandering.

    There are indeed many problems. They are all interwoven. It is difficult to see how they can all be fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    This is a major reason why improving the standard of Thai staff is the only long-term way forward.
    Agreed. I have met some newly qualified Thai teachers of English and I have to say that they have very good subject knowledge, teaching skills and attitudes. Their spoken English isn't perfect but it is light years ahead of those teachers at the top of the school. The problem is that those willing and able young teachers get task-loaded beyond reason and have no choice but to grin and bear it. We can only hope that they stick with it as the old ones retire.

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    Just to go back to the subject of the first post... today I paid the invoice for next year, the deadline is Monday to avoid a 3% per month charge...

    I was always going to of course, there's little choice in Korat and my daughter deserves an education good enough to allow her the option of living a useful life away from Thailand, if she so desires in the future.

    It was good to have a moan about it first for a while... and one thing my procrastination did achieve... the worst possible exchange rate on the transfer this month. Couldn't have been worse timing.

    WTF is happening to the pound now???

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    More like WTF is there to stop the pound weakening, really. Baht is also strengthening.

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    Look like we're back in school early June. Albeit part time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post

    WTF is happening to the pound now???
    Transferwise gave me 38.8 today. The GBP is on a slippery slope, I don't want to guess where the bottom is.

    Meanwhile, in recent weeks the THB has risen about 3%. That was after the IMF reported that Thailand had the worst economic outlook in the region. Go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    Meanwhile, in recent weeks the THB has risen about 3%. That was after the IMF reported that Thailand had the worst economic outlook in the region. Go figure.
    The articles are always behind. The end of January this year the baht was as high as 30.08-30.22 for a few weeks. But then it began to fall in early March going to 32.85, now it is correcting. Its going to be about 31.5 for a bit now I think.

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    some rich Thai guys is playing with the THB and force a crash so he and his friends can make a killing,

    just like in 1997,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    ...WTF is happening to the pound now???
    Aw, don't get SAss started!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    some rich Thai guys is playing with the THB and force a crash so he and his friends can make a killing,

    just like in 1997,
    Will be a book and then a hit movie, how to turn dirty baht into clean $.

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    Back (slightly on theme) I recently paid about 80K for my sons first Uni semester. 60K tuition and 20K university costs. As a result of the move to on line, I will get 10K of the Uni charge back.

    I really do feel for the boy. He was so stoked to be going to Uni, and it has been hard on him to be stuck at home on line learning. It sounds like the students are bonding - but it really, really is not the experince I was hoping he would have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    It sounds like the students are bonding - but it really, really is not the experince I was hoping he would have.
    Yeah but it won't (hopefully) be forever.

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    At least he's not leaving and looking for a job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    At least he's not leaving and looking for a job.
    Indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Back (slightly on theme) I recently paid about 80K for my sons first Uni semester. 60K tuition and 20K university costs. As a result of the move to on line, I will get 10K of the Uni charge back.

    I really do feel for the boy. He was so stoked to be going to Uni, and it has been hard on him to be stuck at home on line learning. It sounds like the students are bonding - but it really, really is not the experince I was hoping he would have.
    Uni is all about the social experience. I enjoyed it so much I did an extra year...

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    Our kids school have just announced a limited reopening from next week and an extended term.

    They sent out a survey to parents to gauge who would / wouldn't be sending their kids back (online teaching will still continue).

    The split looks to me to be about 60 / 40 in favor of not sending them back.

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    ^ and which side are you on?

    I'm happy for my daughter to be learning at home and me looking in and helping her, rather 5han her daydreaming through school, which she seems to like doing.

    I can imagine the flip side though, with families with 3 or 4 kids under the same roof, running fukkin riot all day. My mind would change then I reckon.

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    Or if you ever had to go to work, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    The split looks to me to be about 60 / 40 in favor of not sending them back.
    Problem is, schools can offer online learning or face to face learning, but not a combination.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    I can imagine the flip side though, with families with 3 or 4 kids running fukkin riot all day. My mind would change then I reckon.
    Those are the parents bitching. Blaming the schools for their family situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Problem is, schools can offer online learning or face to face learning, but not a combination.
    The latest update on the situation in Indonesia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    The latest update on the situation in Indonesia?
    Indonesia is a basket case of mismanagement and don't give a fuck attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger
    ^ and which side are you on?
    I'll be dropping them off on Wed, a public holiday, so they'll be first in line Thurs morning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger
    I'm happy for my daughter to be learning at home and me looking in and helping her, rather 5han her daydreaming through school, which she seems to like doing.
    Somewhat opposite for me I rather suspect that plenty of their study time on their laptops is spent gaming or messaging mates and they do better with structure.

    Bugs me a bit they spend so long staring at screens too, both studying and leisure combined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Or if you ever had to go to work, of course.
    Fair point, but for that, like most, I have a wife.

    Although I'd rather she went back to school than her Mom get involved with her online classes.

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