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    Can I afford a kid in Thailand?

    Can I post a financial/life situation here without getting berated? I need some advice on what to do.

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    I don't know how much do thai kids sell for.

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    Yes. The normal way for a Thai lady to behave, once capturing a farang, is to go up the social scale. She becomes hi-so. A hi-so won't be seen to use a government hospital to give birth even though there's no charge unless you pay for a private room which is about 1,000 Baht per night.
    Then she'll want the child to have all the extra vaccinations, that really aren't necessary, above those which are free.
    All in all if you can get your missus to not go getting above her station you can afford to have a 'kid' in Thailand. I have 3.

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    Can you afford to have a kid in Thailand? That depends. How much do you earn? What kind of future do you expect your child to have? etc. etc.

    Schooling is obviously generally shit, although there are OK government schools dotted around the place. If you're in Bangkok and you have some money/influence you can get your kids into state schools like Satit Chula and Triam Udom Suksa, which are fine. Failing that, a decent private school will run to between 500,000 and 1,000,000 a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Passing Through
    a decent private school will run to between 500,000 and 1,000,000 a year.
    Move. It's a damn sight cheaper out of BKK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Yes. The normal way for a Thai lady to behave, once capturing a farang, is to go up the social scale. She becomes hi-so. A hi-so won't be seen to use a government hospital to give birth even though there's no charge unless you pay for a private room which is about 1,000 Baht per night.
    Then she'll want the child to have all the extra vaccinations, that really aren't necessary, above those which are free.
    All in all if you can get your missus to not go getting above her station you can afford to have a 'kid' in Thailand. I have 3.
    Generalizations.....
    Always acceptable.

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    Move. It's a damn sight cheaper out of BKK.
    There are certainly cheaper private schools in Thailand (in and out of Bangkok) but by and large you get what you pay for.

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    Throwing money at something doesn't necessary mean you get better results. Many kids out here in the sticks get rewarded with free scholarships if they show potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme
    Generalizations..... Always acceptable.
    Being the cryptic poster you are. Does that mean I'm right or wrong in my post.

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    ^^ Yes, paying more doesn't guarantee anything. But the more expensive private schools in Thailand tend to produce more intelligent, better educated people than do their cheaper counterparts. Having met a reasonable number of people who went through both sides, that's been my experience. It's much like in Britain. Unfair as it is, public school provides, on average, a better education than the state system. As I said, there are also perfectly good state schools in Bangkok, though getting your kids into them is not necessarily the easiest thing in the world. The other advantage of having your children go to one of the well-known schools is that they will be plugged into an extremely valuable network for the rest of their life; going to some noname school in the provinces may get them through their exams OK but it's unlikely to have much of a pay-off later in life.
    Last edited by Passing Through; 31-03-2017 at 10:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YourDaddy View Post
    Can I post a financial/life situation here without getting berated? I need some advice on what to do.
    Sure ... blast away.

    So, when you say 'afford', are you contemplating becoming a Dad (fathering a child), or picking up the tab on your Partner's rugrat?

    Here is my Thread on the costs of an average Thai Private Hospital ... https://teakdoor.com/the-family-room/...periences.html (Thailand - Childbirth - Private Hospital - our experiences)


    Or, are we talking about a sneaky Mia Noi?


    Or ...
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    Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by YourDaddy View Post
    Can I post a financial/life situation here without getting berated? I need some advice on what to do.
    Ask away. Several members (including myself) have kids in Thailand. Just be aware it is a bit like asking how long is a piece of string. Answers will vary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg
    Answers will vary.
    And people are dicks, unfortunately, so I would be prepared for that too

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    Many millions of people have grown up in Thailand in recent decades so it's clearly affordable.

    The only variables are how much your income and child or childless expenditure are likely to be over two decades. Nobody but you knows.

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    Well, what do you want for your child? Those top tier internationals come with a premium price tag for a good reason imo. My biggest concern about bringing up a child in Thailand would be education. Consider the curriculum the school uses- it will make studying abroad a whole lot easier if it is accredited such as IGCSE or IB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy
    Well, what do you want for your child? Those top tier internationals come with a premium price tag for a good reason imo. My biggest concern about bringing up a child in Thailand would be education. Consider the curriculum the school uses- it will make studying abroad a whole lot easier if it is accredited such as IGCSE or IB.
    Beat me to it.

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    ^^ There must be good non-premium schools around. If you wouldn't send your child to an expensive top private school in your own country, then why do so here? Is it safe to assume that the cheaper international schools are on a par with government schools back home?

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    Why do you want a child?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immigrunt View Post
    If you wouldn't send your child to an expensive top private school in your own country, then why do so here?
    Because the systems are entirely different.

    Quote Originally Posted by Immigrunt View Post
    Is it safe to assume that the cheaper international schools are on a par with government schools back home?
    No. Not at all. Some of them are fucking dreadful. Besides, 'government schools back home' encompass a vast range of levels from 'world class' to 'not fit for training circus fleas' so it's not really a meaningful comparison.

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    From your descriptions it sounds like they are very similar. I'd be all for spending some time finding a good cheaper international school than going for the default expensive one, like buying a Toyota instead of a Mercedes.

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    I don't know where you're from so 'back come' could be anywhere but in Britain, unless you live in a real shithole (not impossible, I guess, amongst expats in Thailand) your children are going to be able to get into a state school which is significantly better than the average budget Thai private school. And I don't think even the most starry eyed is going to describe any cheap provincial Thai private school as 'world class'.

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    The average state school in the country I come from costs less than 200,000 baht per child to run. As many things in Thailand are cheaper it should be possible to find a good enough school in Thailand for less than that.

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    Thailand actually spends a surprisingly large portion of its national budget on education so it's not primarily a question of money, it's a cultural deficit.

    it should be possible to find a good enough school in Thailand for less than that
    Good enough for what? Getting the kid into Cambridge? Or getting the kid into the local Rajabhat? Like all the things, it all depends on the answers to a thousand questions.
    Last edited by Passing Through; 31-03-2017 at 12:41 PM.

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    Also because its national budget is relatively tiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YourDaddy
    Can I afford a kid in Thailand?
    We seem to be stuck in education and as far we know he hasn't done the business yet. Can the OP define 'afford'?

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