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    ^Thai's eat dogs, is that the humane way they take care of them, you speak of?

    Week after week the authorities arrest the same guy in Issan who collects dogs and cats for transport to Vietnam as edible products. When caught, he is officially fined 2,000 baht and told not to do it again.

    A couple weeks go by and he's back at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt View Post
    ^Thai's eat dogs, is that the humane way they take care of them, you speak of?
    Total nonsense. Most Thais don't eat dog meat.

    It's not because you've heard of one guy that it means the whole population. Math and logic have never been your strong points it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickThai View Post
    after 38 years of marriage to a Thai, a lot of Thai behavior has began to make sense to me.
    That sentence is possibly the most frightening I've ever read in a post by RickThai! I hope I never spout off some b/s nonsense like that.

    Christ you can't get two thais to agree on the reason they're brainwashed to do the mindless things they do. How is a foreigner gonna ever know it; if these people have no clue?

    Don't pawn off the reason these people act the way they do on their buddhist upbringing. I've never met more "selective buddhists" in my life, by that I means they're buddhist when it serves them, when it benefits them, etc. Then again, those are my personal observations so your mileage may vary, especially if your name happens to be "RickThai"..

    ON TOPIC:
    As far as "animal shelters" in this country. I'd rather club a dog dead with my cane, then send it to a shelter here. Every day they apprehend a truck bound for parts unknown which is stacked to the gunnels with dogs, most who have those tin cans wired around their mouths. Mysteriously the drivers always get away.. The dogs are sent to some under funded, poorly managed shelters in Nakhon Nowhere.

    I think it'd be better to let the smugglers take the dogs where ever it is they're taking them, rather than putting them in what passes for an animal shelter in this country. In the animal shelters here they drop dead like flies, they don't have adequate food, next to no medical treatment and worst thing is; these people under the guise of buddhism won't put them down. They just let them suffer until they die..

    Now conversely up in Sakhon Nakhon (known by every Thai in the country as the "dog eating province") there are remarkably few stray dogs wandering about.

    I spent some time up there and ate dog a few times. I think I had green curry dog, grilled dog, and a couple dishes with fried ground dog meat in it. Not bad really, the grilled dog was chewy, but other than that I'd eat it again.

    Wasn't there a news article a couple months ago that just outside a "meat ball" making plant in Ayutthaya they found 1000 dog skulls.. Nothing much came of the investigation I guess, but hey, there's a thousand dogs which aren't roamin' the Sois...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Thais love dogs, they just don't do 'responsibility'.

    What do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels
    Don't pawn off the reason these people act the way they do on their buddhist upbringing. I've never met more "selective buddhists" in my life, by that I means they're buddhist when it serves them, when it benefits them, etc. Then again, those are my personal observations so your mileage may vary, especially if your name happens to be "RickThai"..
    If RickThai actually had a clue, he'd quickly see that Thai religion has 3 distinct areas - Buddhism, Brahmanism and Animism. The choose whichever area suits their needs at a particular time.

    Although, in truth, it seems many worship at the alter of irresponsibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    If RickThai actually had a clue
    Ah, there's the rub right there . . . he hasn't

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    On the plus side.....canines can be quite tasty if prepared correctly.

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    There are a plethora of ownerless or disowned mangy dogs roaming the dirty dusty streets across the nation. Something should be done to deal with them. They'll get on any dog lovers nerves after a while. When the King took in that street dog TongDaeng, some Thais got the message that you don't have to buy a special breed to have a great dog. I'm sure that helped get a few mangies off the roads.


    Personally, I think Thailand will never be a great nation until it deals with its street dog issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro
    Personally, I think Thailand will never be a great nation until it deals with its street dog issues.
    Thailand a great nation?

    Soi dogs a hindrance to this?

    Hmm . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Retro
    Personally, I think Thailand will never be a great nation until it deals with its street dog issues.
    Thailand a great nation?

    Soi dogs a hindrance to this?

    Hmm . . .
    It's not very nice for the canine nation to call democrats and their yellow friends "soi dogs" but beside that Retro' has a point.

    Anyway just wanted to remind people that my op was about our 4 legs friends and not about whores, politic or regional food preference ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perota View Post
    Anyway just wanted to remind people that my op was about our 4 legs friends and not about whores, politic or regional food preference ...
    Hey, you started it:

    Quote Originally Posted by Perota View Post

    Me too. A bit like nursing homes in the west.

    When you see how people in "developed" countries get rid of their old folks, how family solidarity has almost disappeared, the way Thais take care of animals is not that bad.

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    mmmm maybe this will change some people's mind ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RickThai View Post
    after 38 years of marriage to a Thai, a lot of Thai behavior has began to make sense to me.
    That sentence is possibly the most frightening I've ever read in a post by RickThai! I hope I never spout off some b/s nonsense like that.
    And you are guy who figured out it is okay to mouth off to Thais. I told my wife about your foolish comments and she just shook her head, and said if you lived in Thailand long enough, that sooner or later you will learn something about the consequences of making a Thai "lose face."

    I hope you share that moment with TD.

    RickThai

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels
    Don't pawn off the reason these people act the way they do on their buddhist upbringing. I've never met more "selective buddhists" in my life, by that I means they're buddhist when it serves them, when it benefits them, etc. Then again, those are my personal observations so your mileage may vary, especially if your name happens to be "RickThai"..
    If RickThai actually had a clue, he'd quickly see that Thai religion has 3 distinct areas - Buddhism, Brahmanism and Animism. The choose whichever area suits their needs at a particular time.

    Although, in truth, it seems many worship at the alter of irresponsibility.
    Even the Pope manages to be "selective" about what parts of the dogma he follows, so why would Thais be any different?

    Marmie,

    The Thai flavor of Theravada Buddhism is no different than any religion, in that cultural elements of older religions creep in. That is pretty common knowledge, not some great insight that you think only you and a select few understand.

    Buddhism, as taught by the Lord Buddha himself, incorporated dogma from the prevalent beliefs of that era.

    Religious beliefs don't just instantly "hatch" as complete doctrine, they evolve and mutate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perota View Post
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    ^Thai's eat dogs, is that the humane way they take care of them, you speak of?
    Total nonsense. Most Thais don't eat dog meat.

    It's not because you've heard of one guy that it means the whole population. Math and logic have never been your strong points it seems.
    You are totally right. Eating dog meat is a Chinese tradition, not Thai.

    Anyone who has spent any reasonable amount of time actually talking to Thai people should realize that dogs were traditionally seen as dirty animals. Calling a Thai person a dog is very insulting.


    Years ago, it was fairly common to see a gang of Thais chase down a rabid dog and club it to death. As Buddhists they only killed the dogs when they felt it absolutely necessary.

    I myself, had to kill a soi dog back in the 1970s when I was living in Kilosip (near Sattahip) because it was rabid.

    RickThai

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    Jesus! Another thread headed for DH, no pun intended.

    And most of you have no clue about dogs, animal "shelters" or much else. Seriously, even from the start... A dog lived 25 years under a house in Thailand? Really? 25 years? When life expectancy for dogs in the West is 15 years ish depending on size? Guinness Book of Records Time - the old Thai lady might make some money...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post


    Anyone who claims they understand the Thai mindset is talking out their ass.

    I think to understand any race on this earth one must be fluent in the language and spend many years living amounst the race. Especially the Thais.

    One thing I have picked up over the years is that the Thais realize that there country is not perfect and accept this as the way life is. Another disaster looking around the next corner.

    In turn when the shit hits the fan regarding some drunk tosser on Ya-Ba offing a heap of people they accept this as part of the imperfect world they live in.

    When really stupid shit happens in Thailand I now accept it more easily.

    Regards the dogs, around where I live many are treated like children. Small dogs are dressed up and one lady I see pushes her's around in a pram.

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    Understanding the Thai Mindset???, Thailand is the Only Country in the World that really matters ,and all the others are of no real consequence according to most of them, for a Thai to "lose face" all you have to do is prove them wrong and then watch out! , its the same when there is a brawl between two Thai's ,the Loser will either bring a gun and shoot the winner or failing that bring a "team" to beat the guy senseless ,Thai's do not like to lose at anything full stop as they are the "Master race"! and have been brainwashed since infancy to think that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickThai View Post

    Anyone who has spent any reasonable amount of time actually talking to Thai people should realize that dogs were traditionally seen as dirty animals.

    They where seen as dirty animals simply because they where not looked after and where left to fend for themselves. Not much money around in the early days to be spent looking after a dog in the correct fashion including trips to the vets and inoculation.

    I first arrived in Bali 1979, the dog situation was diabolical, they would howl all night and rabies was rife. One would steer clear of any dog.

    Fast forward to present time. Government offed all the diseased dogs and today the Balinese love there dogs with many imported breeds getting around. More money around as well to care for them.

    Caring correctly for a dog is the key. I'm just pissed that Ive never been able to own one because of my life style and probably never will.

    Friggin love to have my own dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post

    Thai's do not like to lose at anything full stop as they are the "Master race"! and have been brainwashed since infancy to think that too.
    Actually I had a little laugh when I read you're post.

    I was thinking replace the word " Thai's " with " Americans " and we could start a whole new thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickThai View Post

    Marmie,

    The Thai flavor of Theravada Buddhism is no different than any religion .

    RickThai


    Hey Rick, Marmite don't like anyone except " The Midget ".

    He does help out " PeterPan" so that's good enough for me.

    Anyway Rick, you seem like a good guy but you can please do me a favor ?

    Stop putting " Santi " at the end of you're posts, it does my head in. I mean fok me mate.

    Its like me putting " Suck my cock " at the end off every post I make.

    Thanks mate,

    Cheers.

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    "Perota" is correct, MOST thais don't eat dog, however if you ask ANY thai what province eats dogs; to a person they'll say "Sakon Nakhon" (สกลนคร). It is known as the "dog eating province".

    Honestly as poorly as they care for the dogs they "rescue" from being smuggled across the border for the dog meat trade, I wish they'd either legalize it, export dogs, or just let it go on. It is truly amazing the lack of compassion, care they provide. The lip service they do pay doesn't make up for the appalling conditions, not one bit..

    OFF-TOPIC:
    In answer to RickThai's comment and his wifes observation about my "mouthing off" to thais. Believe me I don't spend my entire day "mouthing off". In fact most of my day is spent interacting peacefully with all the thais I'm compelled to interact with.

    However I do hold them accountable for what they say and what they do when they interact with me. I mean a bull shit answer is a bull shit answer in any language. I'm not thai, so don't feel compelled in the least to operate within the cultural restrictions thais do. I've found you can push a thai pretty far, but I'm not under any illusion that there's no line in the sand here. Push one over that line and they can become unpredictable. Plus because they're a herd, flock or pack culture when it comes to violence, I'm always well aware of how far I'm pushin' one.

    I've said time and again, I never dig a hole deeper than I can climb out of when interacting with strange thais, as in ones I've never met before. Should I get what you (and your wife) obviously feel is my comeuppance at the hands of a thai, I promise if I'm not dead, I'll most definitely share it.

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    The love for dogs appeared in the West also only recently, most breeds are less than a century old. The West poduced hundreds of them, the Thais one or two. Maybe didn't use them for herding and guarding. Strange people with strange animals, elephants and buffalos for workhorses and mounts. Never used horses either.

    I leave the door of my bedroom open for cool air, and have no issues if my Pit Bull jumps on the bed and snuggles up. She doesn't leave my side anyway. I suspect she understands English better than my GF, caught most of the commands after just a few repetitions while girlie still opens the light and closes the TV after 5 years with me. Her poodles sleep in her bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post

    Thai's do not like to lose at anything full stop as they are the "Master race"! and have been brainwashed since infancy to think that too.
    Actually I had a little laugh when I read you're post.

    I was thinking replace the word " Thai's " with " Americans " and we could start a whole new thread.
    Out of order pal.... This calls for a trip to On Nutt beer garden. The locals allow me to use a stage usually meant for a live band as an ass kicking ring.. And you're now invited.

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    Why is it that every thread that mentions dogs always brings out the dog killers? Here's a tip - if you do not like dogs a) you are in the wrong fricking country b) put your hands in your pockets and neuter every dog you see and the problem will be solved. I'm not a fan of screaming kids and I heard about a bloke once who had a stone thrown at him by a young kid. So therefore, by the dog killer mentality, every thread about kids I am perfectly OK to say "ahh well, best thing is to put them all in a home and if no one claims them after a week, kill the little kunts". Then, another enlightened poster can add "Yeah de-icer is the way forward - kills them good and quick" to be concluded with the usual "the only good kid is a dead kid".

    I feed strays twice a day. I am vastly out numbered by the Thais that do this also. I see a van going round, full of and paid for by Thais, that give them medical care and neuter them. I also see farangs who loves dogs but do not neuter their pets, exacerbating the problem regardless of their claims of "the puppies only go to good homes" which of course they can not know, and secondly how about when their beloveds escape and impregnate a 100 stray bitches? I see shit on Bahtsold like the french kunt putting an advert up looking for a home for his two dogs for half a year because he's off on holiday and does not want to just leave them on the street, which he will if no one comes forward. (his words)

    Are Thai's bad dog owners? No worse than farangs. I rarely see Thais walking about with big sticks to hit these dogs with for having the nerve to take umbridge at some fucka waltzing through their territory!

    Of all the Thais I know with dogs, all of them are good owners and responsible. The worst owners I know are farangs.

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