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    Quote Originally Posted by Namdocmai View Post

    These days hotels in Thailand cost about the same as the ones in western country's but don't deliver the same quality and services.
    Not even close.

    Compared to Australia, most hotels in Thailand offer better service, a cleaner hotel, the same or better facilities for between 1/5 and 1/2 of the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
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    The resort is probably recognisable from the image and so has effectively been named. If my understanding of the relevant Thai law is correct, the author could be sued for defamation. I'm not sure what the law says about public forums that publish it.
    The article is not in thailand.
    Yes it is you dopey tit.
    The hotel is in Thailand.
    Here is a story about a hotel I stayed in last week. I write this in Thailand where I am shooting a new show. As part of the schedule, we went to Koh Chang, one of the most beautiful and relatively undiscovered parts of the country. The production company booked us all into a resort run by a leading Thai chain.
    And the article is on the internet.
    (Is that in Thailand)
    I think what he meant was the article wasn't written by a Thai publication and isn't hosted in Thailand, therefore Thailand's defamation laws don't apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantilley View Post
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    The resort is probably recognisable from the image and so has effectively been named. If my understanding of the relevant Thai law is correct, the author could be sued for defamation. I'm not sure what the law says about public forums that publish it.
    The article is not in thailand.
    Yes it is you dopey tit.
    The hotel is in Thailand.
    Here is a story about a hotel I stayed in last week. I write this in Thailand where I am shooting a new show. As part of the schedule, we went to Koh Chang, one of the most beautiful and relatively undiscovered parts of the country. The production company booked us all into a resort run by a leading Thai chain.
    And the article is on the internet.
    (Is that in Thailand)
    I think what he meant was the article wasn't written by a Thai publication and isn't hosted in Thailand, therefore Thailand's defamation laws don't apply.
    But it's an hotel in Thailand and the article is now published on a Thai forum website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morden View Post
    But it's an hotel in Thailand and the article is now published on a Thai forum website.
    True, not sure how the law applies in this kind of case. Although the fact that the hotel isn't named or the name isn't even hinted at probably means it's a moot point anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantilley View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Morden View Post
    But it's an hotel in Thailand and the article is now published on a Thai forum website.
    True, not sure how the law applies in this kind of case. Although the fact that the hotel isn't named or the name isn't even hinted at probably means it's a moot point anyway.
    TD is about Thailand, it is not hosted there.
    Judging by some of the pap posted here, they could give a fuck about libel laws in Thailand.
    LM laws are enforced to stop the site being blacklisted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard of Oz View Post
    After being a hotel manager for about 30 years I can truly state that Indians are by far the worst guests. Over demanding, discount seeking lot they are. I could write numerous stories about Indians in hotels.
    I had the misfortune to sit next to one on a night flight to London. I normally choose an aisle seat so I can get in and out easily, and normally expect to get some sleep.

    However the wobbly next to me decided he wanted absolutely everything that every other passenger requested (except the duty free, obviously, because that involved spending money). On about the eighth attempt at him trying to grab something from a stewardess, this time a kids colouring book and pens, I basically turned to him and growled "SHUT THE FUCK UP I'M TRYING TO SLEEP".

    At which point he hid under a blanket and remained well behaved for the rest of the flight.

    A mate of mine is flying Jet Airways to BKK via Delhi this week. I think I might have a couple of valium waiting for him when he arrives in Pattaya.


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    I ordered my meal. I got even more uneasy when I noticed that he was refusing to write anything down. “Oh, don’t worry, I remember,” he assured me.
    When I opened my first little hotel at Phuket Airport around 2005, I hadn't got a clue....

    Some of our first guests were 20 aged female cyclists from Holland.

    At their first breakfast, my new Thai staff tried to take all the orders without writing it down. There was every combination of fried egg, soft-poached egg, hard-boiled egg, lightly-toasted bread, crispy bacon, not-crispy bacon etc.

    Of course, we totally fcuked it all up and forgot the order details - so just gave them all the same type of omelette.

    They never complained..... nice people the Dutch.

    As for Indian customers, they are generally a hassle. I've learnt to charge out extra pillows because they always demand an extra half-dozen. I have to hide the free tea and coffee supplies because they will grab the lot.

    Best hotel customers? Swedes, Norwegians, Dutch and Ozzies are always easy-going.

    The best customers are definitely Americans...

    The worst customers are definitely Americans, especially loud, obese women from New York.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon43 View Post

    Best hotel customers? Swedes, Norwegians, Dutch and Ozzies are always easy-going.

    The best customers are definitely Americans...

    The worst customers are definitely Americans, especially loud, obese women from New York.....

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    Nothing to say on the British Simon? Oh hang on maybe that's just as well....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon43
    I hadn't got a clue....
    Fook all has changed then!

    Simon, I'm sorry but, I've read all your posts and there must be something not quite right in your head!

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    Never had any real problems with places I've stayed at. Before paying I check the room out with a quick look-over to see if it's worth the price.

    I've stayed at resorts, guest-houses, overnight in short-time motels and all ranges of hotels (up to 1200b) and as long as I can get a good nights sleep and have got somewhere safe to park my bike then I'm basically a happy bunny.

    Sure, some motels don't have a porno channel or two, or some do but nobody has realised that the pornos have finished and it's time to put in a new one.
    In some hotels you can look through the air vents while showering and see other stayers walking passed your room. Like wise, whilst walking down the corridor I can look into other people's bathrooms while they're showering too. Some bathroom doors in hotels don't close properly leaving a gap to peer through at someone showering if someone had voyeuristic tendencies.

    I've forgotten the amount of times there's been faulty showerheads that leaked more water than it sprayed or, only 5-6 nozzles were working as the rest were blocked up. One Chinese run hotel didn't even have a mirror anywhere in the room but luckily I've got a good memory for faces. Then there's the high end hotel in Aranyaprathet that thinks they can get 15 cups of tea out of one Liptons teabag floating in a hot water jar.

    Some border area hotels have so many tv channels that by the time you've flicked through them all, the channel that seemed the most interesting has already finished by the time you get back to it. Another place in Aran has Cambodian staff who always seems to give me Sprite whenever I ask for Coke.

    Then there's the beach-view rooms that requires you to stand on the air-con unit to enable you only a glimpse of a small patch of sea water or, in the case of a room with a balcony, you can lean over the low balcony rails precariously to get an unobstructed view of the beach whilst trying desperately not to raise the Pattayanese suicide statistics because the hotel, and it's beach-view rooms, are actually facing the hotel next door.

    All in all, just a few little issues that makes staying somewhere a little bit more memorable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    Well written story.
    Sorry, Tel - can't agree with that. The writer comes across as an utter prick, imo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard of Oz
    Indians are by far the worst guests
    Lots of Indians here in Oman. I'm sorry to say that my impression of the fellas I work with is not good. I've always had good experiences in the UK, never worked with Indians educated in India before...
    Cycling should be banned!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeMock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Namdocmai View Post

    These days hotels in Thailand cost about the same as the ones in western country's but don't deliver the same quality and services.
    Not even close.

    Compared to Australia, most hotels in Thailand offer better service, a cleaner hotel, the same or better facilities for between 1/5 and 1/2 of the price.
    Yeah right, check the websites for good hotels in Phuket on A-locations and you will not find a good one under 10000 baht a nite outside the wetseason.

    Personell barely speaks english, nightguards sleeping behind the desk, showerhead to low and jammed, tv channels not programmed, aircon makes noise, very hard matresses, green pools, nails coming out of the deck at the pools etc etc.

    When i pay prices like 200 pound a nite or more everything should be perfect.

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    Thailand has no world class hotels.

    The top end offerings where I've stayed, paying from 7-50k a night, like the Oriental, Peninsula, Sukhothai, Amanpuri, Banyan Tree, Sheraton et al are generally very good five star properties with lots of smiling, wai-ing staff who add a certain finesse, but rarely genuine hospitality or much else beyond the superficial.

    When things go wrong, as they can do anywhere, what separates an excellent hotel from the mediocre is the way in which it is dealt with. With the sole exception of the Peninsula in Bkk, where they had a world class GM a few years back (Ian Couglan), Thai hotels fall short, IME

    The other hotel across the river is nothing more than a pose joint for hiso Thai weddings with big face and naive once in a lifetime trippers.

    That said, the massage therapist at the London Dorchester never offered me a BJ for an extra 60 quid, as has happened in one lovely hotel on Sathorn.

    On that alone, Thailand still has a USP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
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    But it's an hotel in Thailand and the article is now published on a Thai forum website.
    True, not sure how the law applies in this kind of case. Although the fact that the hotel isn't named or the name isn't even hinted at probably means it's a moot point anyway.
    TD is about Thailand, it is not hosted there.
    Judging by some of the pap posted here, they could give a fuck about libel laws in Thailand.
    LM laws are enforced to stop the site being blacklisted.
    A bit of a tricky point for some people to process, it seems... just like the somchai, this website about Thailand, must belong Thai, say bad thing then we ca block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morden View Post
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    Thank you! I hoped someone would pick up on that. Have you noticed how some posters don't read posts properly before replying - or engage the thinking part of their brains, come to that?


    TD is not hosted in Thailand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
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    Thank you! I hoped someone would pick up on that. Have you noticed how some posters don't read posts properly before replying - or engage the thinking part of their brains, come to that?


    TD is not hosted in Thailand.
    Oh, thats ok then.
    So they won't prosecute anyone in thailand for posting LM on TD then because TD is hosted outside Thailand.
    It doesn't matter where it's hosted. If the posters of LM or owners of the site displaying LM are in Thailand they can be prosecuted.
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    It's not LM either.

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    If yr posting from Thailand it could be awkward.

    My lady in Chiangmai told me not to post any political stuff there, too many spies around.

    If you do, change computers, locations etc and use proxies, never give away who you are.

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    All you people spend time slagging off the Thai's and Thailand......If you don't like it why don't you f**k of and find somewhere else to live. Or are you too frightened to go elsewhere ???.

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    Geoff not all slag off just the idiots, that not even stay here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geoff
    All you people spend time slagging off the Thai's and Thailand......If you don't like it why don't you f**k of and find somewhere else to live. Or are you too frightened to go elsewhere ???.
    Thanks for that Geoff.

    Folks who live in America, Americans or other, should they fuk off out of the country if they mention that taxes are rising, the school system is inadequate or the local community offices are closed at inconvenient times? The same for Europe, Aussieland, anywhere else?

    Out of interest, why would posters be frightened to live somewhere else? Please advise as I don't understand your comment.

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