Bringing my dog to UK without quarantine

[Ubermensch]

many dog fanciers are OTT and irrational in the defence of their best friends

You're absolutely right.

If I'm ever diagnosed with a terminal illness or facing life for something I fully intend to go all Raoul Moat on animal abusers.

[Stinky]

I think you're being a little harsh in your comparison Neil, but as many dog fanciers are OTT and irrational in the defence of their best friends I spose it's to be expected.

When you have met as many disgusting human beings as I have, dogs get to be superior beings.

Yes I've been to France too

[Stinky]

many dog fanciers are OTT and irrational in the defence of their best friends

You're absolutely right.

If I'm ever diagnosed with a terminal illness or facing life for something I fully intend to go all Raoul Moat on animal abusers.

Might I suggest going about it in the reverse order to him

[November Rain]

This in a way reinforce's the argument for a long quarentine period of animals coming into the UK, there's more diseases than rabies we need to keep under control and if the stats are still the same and these quarentined animals are dieing in vast numbers whilest confined in UK quarentine then it's as well they weren't allowed to roam amongst other animals spreading the diseases which they must've brought in with them and which killed them.

Take your point, but no, it doesn't really reinforce the quarantine argument. Dogs are kept singly or in pairs coming from the same owner, so how are they catching the diseases??? Poor infection control from the kennel owners & workers is the only way I can think of. Which, when you think about it, doesn't really fill you with confidence with how a rabid animal would be dealt with, does it?

As for keeping these diseases out of UK, they exist here already, but are easily preventable with one or more vaccines. These vaccines for parvo, distemper, lepto, and various other diseases aren't required by law in any country that I'm aware of, while rabies is. In fact, no vaccines are required to send a dog to UK quarantine, because they give a rabies one when the animal arrives (no others - just the rabies). The reason for no-one other than responsible owners being bothered about the other vaccines? Simple. The other diseases aren't communicable to humans.

[Stinky]

This in a way reinforce's the argument for a long quarentine period of animals coming into the UK, there's more diseases than rabies we need to keep under control and if the stats are still the same and these quarentined animals are dieing in vast numbers whilest confined in UK quarentine then it's as well they weren't allowed to roam amongst other animals spreading the diseases which they must've brought in with them and which killed them.

Take your point, but no, it doesn't really reinforce the quarantine argument. Dogs are kept singly or in pairs coming from the same owner, so how are they catching the diseases??? Poor infection control from the kennel owners & workers is the only way I can think of. Which, when you think about it, doesn't really fill you with confidence with how a rabid animal would be dealt with, does it?

I've never seen a quarantine kennels before but I had imagined (hoped) that they were first class places removing the animals from any chance of contact with other infected animals, I don't see the point of quarantine if they cant even do that?

As for keeping these diseases out of UK, they exist here already, but are easily preventable with one or more vaccines. These vaccines for parvo, distemper, lepto, and various other diseases aren't required by law in any country that I'm aware of, while rabies is. In fact, no vaccines are required to send a dog to UK quarantine, because they give a rabies one when the animal arrives (no others - just the rabies). The reason for no-one other than responsible owners being bothered about the other vaccines? Simple. The other diseases aren't communicable to humans.

Yes I know these diseases are already here but if we were to allow thousands of unchecked animals into the country the instances of transmission and infection would increase dramatically, hardly fair to the amnimals already here.

[November Rain]

I've never seen a quarantine kennels before but I had imagined (hoped) that they were first class places removing the animals from any chance of contact with other infected animals, I don't see the point of quarantine if they cant even do that?

That's my point. Their whole purpose is to do exactly that. And they don't manage it. To be fair, parvo & distemper viruses can be carried on boots, hands, infected mops etc. But that's the whole point of infection control - to make sure these viruses don't travel.

Yes I know these diseases are already here but if we were to allow thousands of unchecked animals into the country the instances of transmission and infection would increase dramatically, hardly fair to the amnimals already here.

In theory. Having said that, in the early 80's there was a huge parvo outbreak in pups in petshops in the UK. That's one of the reasons why petshops in UK don't carry pups or kits anymore - too much risk of communicable disease between the young animals. I wish it were the same in Thailand *sigh*. But, back to subject - that outbreak made many owners realise the risk & spend the money to vaccinate their dogs. Sadly, complacency is sliding back in...

And why should the diseases be unchecked? Just make sure the animals have been vaccinated against all common communicable diseases, instead of specifying only rabies.