I've never said it. He's the one who claims he's ignoring me. I'll continue to take the piss out of him as much as I like, thanks.Quote:
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I've never said it. He's the one who claims he's ignoring me. I'll continue to take the piss out of him as much as I like, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveCM
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerbil
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Originally Posted by Gerbil
^ Correct. Ok, once (I'd forgotten that) - Hardly multiple times as you claim though. Now I retract it and I *can* be arsed to confront his constant stream of shit. Happy?
Unlike most twats here, I'm quite happy to be proven wrong on occasion and I admit it. Noone's fucking perfect.
More power to your elbow for that. :fing02: Let's hope the habit catches on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerbil
^ Oh the irony :rofl:
You appear somewhat confused mate....try reading my previous piece again....the event maybe unprecedented, the act of taking responsibility and displaying integrity is not. Other democracies manage it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Bangkok Post : Abhisit slams govt for 'mishandling' floodPrime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra must do a better job of managing the flood situation and improve her communication skills if she wants the confidence of the Thai people and the global community, Opposition Leader Abhisit Vejjajiva said Friday.
- Published: 11/11/2011 at 04:33 PM
- Online news: News
Mr Abihsit was responding to reports that critics were demanding Ms Yingluck step down as prime minister, or call a snap election.
"We should wait until the flood situation eases, any more political uncertainty would not be in the best interests of the country."
https://teakdoor.com/images/smilies1/You_Rock_Emoticon.gif Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra and Opposition Leader Abhisit Vejjajiva discuss the flood situation at Don Mueang airport on Oct 2011. (File Photo)
Issues of responsibility and the suitability of the prime minister for the job could be discussed after the situation improves, he said.
The former prime minister said he was disappointed that Ms Yingluck, as prime minister, did not apear to listen to or respond to the opposition's suggestions during the House budget debate.
On Chulalongkorn University economist Narong Phetprasert's plan to sue the government for allegedly causing the crisis, Mr Abhisit said many people believed the flood was not just a natural disaster and that mismanagement might also have played a role.
"Many people have suffered and the cost of damage is much more than the government can compensate for. Therefore, legal action can be taken," he said.
The opposition leader said the government should stop politicising the flood situation.
"The government should not pass the problem to the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration, but they should work together to help the people. This is not the time for conflict. Don't let politics become an obstacle in solving the problem," Mr Abhisit said.
He said that if the government wanted to win people's confidence it must be transparent and open to inspection, instead of arguing and giving people false information.
Deputy Prime Minister and Interior Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit praised Mr Abhisit for coordinating with the government in getting help to people in flooded areas.
"Mr Abhisit is a good man because he doesn't just think he's from the opposition party. When he saw problems, he would immediately call me to deliver assistance to flood-hit people.
"This is a good sign because when we're in hard times we should not hurt or criticise one another," Mr Yongyuth said.
The Pheu Thai leader said he believed the House meeting today would discuss ways to mitigate the flood situation.
"The flood situation is improving, despite the high tides yesterday," he added.
https://teakdoor.com/images/smilies1/You_Rock_Emoticon.gif People are trying to adapt to the on-going flood situation in Bangkok. (Photo by Tawatchai Kemgumnerd)
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Flood-Fighting Trucks Belong to Thaksin Supporters - Voice TV
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Flood-Fighting Trucks Belong to Thaksin Supporters
Some trucks laden with subsistency bags for delivery to flood victims did not belong to any government agency but to ordinary supporters of Thaksin Shinawatra, said a Puea Thai MP.
During a joint House/Senate debate on the deluge crisis at parliament on Friday, Worachai Hema (Puea Thai, Samut Prakarn) said the trucks which delivered relief items in the subsistency bags to the flood victims were owned by ''those who maintained their faith in Thaksin.''
He was responding to allegations launched by Rangsima Rodrasamee (Democrat, Samut Songkram) billboards with enlarged pictures of the deposed premier were installed on the vehicles owned by a government unit.
The Democrat MP charged embezzlement of the taxpayer's money had occurred in the procurement by the government's flood control center of the food and other relief items handed out to the flood-stricken villagers in the central provinces and Bangkok's suburbs.
Rangsima alleged the subsistency bags containing food and other items cost too much than the ordinary market prices and the bags, worth about 800 baht in supplies, were handed out to those who had voted the Puea Thai Party, compared to the 300-baht bags given to those who had not voted for the ruling party.
''Before they handed out the subsistency bags, they asked who among the flood victims voted the Puea Thai Party so they would be given the 800-baht bags. And those who did not vote the Puea Thai were given the 300-baht bags,'' said the woman lawmaker.
She said the names of persons associated with the ruling party, including former electoral candidates and aides to Puea Thai MPs, were shown upon parcels of relief items, donated by the people and private firms for delivery to the flood victims.
Puea Thai MP Jatuporn Prompand categorically dismissed the allegations, saying the Puea Thai-led government had never discriminated the flood victims by their political standpoints. Neither had the government perpetrated corruption with the money or supplies donated for the flood-stricken people by others, he said.
He commented Yingluck could not be put to blame for the ''tragedies'' caused by the severe flooding because, he said, she began to head the Puea Thai-led government after the deluges had begun to wreak havoc on the country.
''Yingluck was named prime minister under a Royal Decree on Aug 8, delivered a policy statement on Aug 23 and 24 and began to work on Aug 25,'' he said.
He said the woman leader had been ''set up'' by her political foes with the flood crisis, however. Too much water which overflew and flooded the low terrains of the central region and the capital had been contained at major dams during the time of a previous Abhisit government several months earlier, according to the Puea Thai lawmaker.
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by Surasak Tumcharoen
^Lest anyone forgets....Voice TV is owned by Thaksin's son and daughter...
An attack in disguise by the bias media trying to bring the electo.......Quote:
Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
Oh, wait
^^^ Well..... unless someone now wants to suggest that Voice TV's account has fabricated parliamentary proceedings in its reporting, it's good to see what hasn't AFAIK made it into the coverage provided by the other English-language media - whoever it is that owns/controls them.
First House-Senate session turns into blame game - The Nation
First House-Senate session turns into blame game
Pravit Rojanaphruk
The Nation November 11, 2011 9:09 am
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The first joint House-Senate debate on flood control Friday saw politicians indulging in slinging matches, though some provided suggestions as to how the impact of the ongoing floods could be mitigated and similar occurrences prevented.
In the debate, the opposition criticised the government and its Flood Relief Operation Centre (FROC) for failing to properly manage the crisis, while a Pheu Thai MP shot back by blaming Bangkok Governor MR Sukhumbhand Paribatra. Many senators, meanwhile, came up with some constructive suggestions.
The suggestions include adopting an integrated approach in water management, building of flood ways or another major river and adopting strict urban-planning rules that strictly separate agricultural, industrial, residential and water-catchment areas. A number of senators also encouraged the authorities to take water-management lessons from countries like the Netherlands as well as bring the internal political battles to an end.
Democrat MP Suthep Thuagsubhan led the attack against the government by pointing out its failure in explaining the severity of the situation to the public.
"They listen to [FROC] and they don't understand. There's no clear answer as to how many days the floods will remain. Nobody knows but you will have to talk with them," he said.
Suthep also criticised the government's slowness in setting up mobile kitchens to help flood-affected Bangkokians and warned that the food provided should meet certain standards. "The food must be of good quality. Bangkok people are picky about what they eat, they are not beggars."
He also urged the government to provide counselling, because Bangkokians "have limited patience".
Thepthai Senapong, another Democrat MP, said FROC had been put in the hands of the wrong people and the government favoured red-shirt politicians seeking relief goods.
However, the most controversial speaker was Jirayu Huangsab, Pheu Thai MP for Klong Sam Wa district. He accused the Bangkok governor for failing to take care of those affected in the outlying areas of the capital. Calling him a "shadow Bangkok governor", Jirayu said Sukhumbhand and the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) did not care for people in far-flung areas like Klong Sam Wa, where people had to eventually take to the streets to force the opening of the sluice gate.
"The area has been flooded since October 2. Did BMA warn them that it is a water-catchment area so they would not buy houses there?" Jirayu said, adding that the governor should have visited the area much earlier. These attacks against the governor, who is a member of the Democrat Party, led to protests from the opposition, who pointed out that it was against House regulations to criticise someone who cannot defend himself in person.
Jirayu, who was attacked by Klong Sam Wa residents earlier for not caring for them, defended himself by saying that he only had two pick-up trucks and five staff members at his disposal.
Some senators, tired of the blame game between ruling-party MPs and the opposition, urged members of the House of Representatives to stop and concentrate on the task at hand. "I don't think today is the day to seek the wrongdoers," one senator said.
"Society will not benefit if the debate is based on political interests," Nakhon Si Thammarat senator Siriwat Kraisin warned, adding that Thailand is perhaps the only country in the world where canals and waterways can be filled up without any restrictions.
Some of the senators asked the government how prepared it was for possible flooding next year or the upcoming drought, while another asked if the authorities had any plans to deal with the polluted flood waters.
I'm not in the least confused. You said "it is not uncommon for democratically elected leaders to call elections or resign when they have screwed up." I just wonder who these leaders/governments are who have called elections when they've screwed up? If it's not uncommon, it should be simply enough for you to answer with a few decent examples.Quote:
Originally Posted by StrontiumDogYou appear somewhat confused mate....try reading my previous piece again....the event maybe unprecedented, the act of taking responsibility and displaying integrity is not. Other democracies manage it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
"Prime Minister resigns" gives...
About 85,700,000 results
"Prime Minister calls early election" gives...
About 91,300,000 results
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Originally Posted by "The Nation
Big photo feature and more quotes than anyone else of the esteemed Mr. Suthep in this article about the give-and-take in a parliamentary debate......obviously The Nation's favorite son.Quote:
Democrat MP Suthep Thuagsubhan led the attack against the government by...........
Lovely.
The top story on Thai Rath The PM Thanks Mark for Continuing his Support. Happy to Join Hands to Solve the National Crisis.
Unless I've misunderstood badly, it's quite a difference to the tone of the stuff you see in the Nation and the Bangkok Post. It's worth remembering that these two have a combined circulation of about an eighth of Thai Rath and an actual readership that is really only a tiny fraction of Thai Rath's. Thank God.
I thought you probably couldn't think of any. Thanks for confirming this.Quote:
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I edited my post....check again.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanI thought you probably couldn't think of any. Thanks for confirming this.Quote:
Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
Really, if you are so completely unaware of what happens in the rest of the world, I don't believe it is my job to educate you. Find out for yourself. The Japanese are rather famous for their PM's resigning.....odd that you are so utterly unaware of the world around you....
And may I add, it is hardly surprising you are obviously a Pheu Thai/Thaksin fan....
The 2 usually go together.
Time to put on the boots and I don't mean the rubber ones. I mean the h--d kicking ones for those so inclined.
PADite talk of Ms. Y resignation is the epitome of wishful thinking.
They are so far off-base makes one wonder where they have been since 2006.
The theft of another Govt. by this Amart will not happen again.
That party is over.
And so is this one
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What would your world look like, if it was not clouded by hate for Thaksin?Quote:
Originally Posted by StrontiumDogI edited my post....check again.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanI thought you probably couldn't think of any. Thanks for confirming this.Quote:
Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
Really, if you are so completely unaware of what happens in the rest of the world, I don't believe it is my job to educate you. Find out for yourself. The Japanese are rather famous for their PM's resigning.....odd that you are so utterly unaware of the world around you....
And may I add, it is hardly surprising you are obviously a Pheu Thai/Thaksin fan....
The 2 usually go together.
You mean like this....posted earlier in this thread.....?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Or this....?Quote:
Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
Govt commends Abhisit for relief efforts - The Nation
Govt commends Abhisit for relief efforts
November 11, 2011 10:15 am
Deputy Prime Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit Friday praised Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva for cooperating in the drainage and relief efforts.
"Abhisit has called to alert the government for flood-related problems he encountered on his inspection trips," he said, commending Abhisit for acting as a good citizen rather than the opposition leader.
The Nation
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I don't hate himQuote:
Originally Posted by nostromoWhat would your world look like, if it was not clouded by hate for Thaksin?Quote:
Originally Posted by StrontiumDogI edited my post....check again.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanI thought you probably couldn't think of any. Thanks for confirming this.Quote:
Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
Really, if you are so completely unaware of what happens in the rest of the world, I don't believe it is my job to educate you. Find out for yourself. The Japanese are rather famous for their PM's resigning.....odd that you are so utterly unaware of the world around you....
And may I add, it is hardly surprising you are obviously a Pheu Thai/Thaksin fan....
The 2 usually go together.
I'm just not fond of sociopathic, corrupt, megalomaniacs.
Odd that you are....
Anyone's head in particular Tom?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
Am I? No, that is just your excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by StrontiumDogI don't hate himQuote:
Originally Posted by nostromoWhat would your world look like, if it was not clouded by hate for Thaksin?Quote:
Originally Posted by StrontiumDogI edited my post....check again.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanI thought you probably couldn't think of any. Thanks for confirming this.Quote:
Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
Really, if you are so completely unaware of what happens in the rest of the world, I don't believe it is my job to educate you. Find out for yourself. The Japanese are rather famous for their PM's resigning.....odd that you are so utterly unaware of the world around you....
And may I add, it is hardly surprising you are obviously a Pheu Thai/Thaksin fan....
The 2 usually go together.
I'm just not fond of sociopathic, corrupt, megalomaniacs.
Odd that you are....
If what you said is anywhere correct, you should be not fond of many Thai governments, say over 30 year period. You seem to direct your hate to Thaksin government - my experience of that time is about everything got better.