Mae Rim is under water too
Mae Rim is under water too
Sorry to be vague, but most bridges will be open and some/most (probably the latter) bus services will be running. Best he gets someone at the hotel to call the bus station for up to date info on the score between CM & KK; I suspect train services will be very iffy for a few days yet. Most of the flooding (in town, anyway) while widespread is only about half-wheel-deep - there's just a lot of it.
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Ping River water level falling this afternoon but expected to increase again at noon tomorrow,which may cause further flooding in Chiang Mai
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Looking at the water level chart, the water is rising again now in Sansei. Looks like more water soon for Muang Chiang Mai.
Water was released from Mae Ngat at noon and will be released again at five, so I have been told.
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I'm on Chiang Klan road, one of the worst affected areas. Water is thigh to waist high in the middle of the road all round here. There's also a very strong current. Lots of debris in the water. There are quite a few boats around, a couple of scorpion tails have just chugged past. The nearest dry land is over at Khampaeng Din. From the rooftop here I can see water in every direction, it's like being on a lighthouse. Downstairs there's an underground car park, that's full to the top. Quite a few drowned cars in there. No pictures, sorry, I left my camera in my other place and can't get there. Thankfully I've got plenty of food and Chiang Mai tap water is drinkable
I went out in one of the boats earlier, there's an awful lot of destruction - there's a lot of very poor people around here who basically live in shanties and all those houses are full of water. I've seen some soldiers and local government types around but they seem to mostly helping out on Chiang Klang itself, although we seem, looking out the window, to be getting a fresh delivery of sandbags right now.
Subjectively, the water appears to have dropped about 5 cm since last night. Still pretty much impossible to get very far though. Officials say the water level here is 60cm.
Just had a look round outside, there's an emergency food kitchen nearby and apparently some people are being evacuated to emergency accomodation. MCOT news says that the cost of flood damage in CM is now over 1 billion Baht.
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I hear they are still talking about releasing water from dams upstream, I suppose they're working on the basis "might as well get it all over in one go".
Actually quite logical for a Thai.
Hello,
I live in San Sai (noi?), until now we still dry. It is two days already I am hearing about this "Thai Logic"...
Now I wonder... Shall I put the Blxxdy sand bags in front of my gate or what? It costed me already 2,000 baht to have 80 of them...
Can any experienced BM, please, give me a wise advise?
Thank You.
^I live in Sansei also but usually doesn't flood in this area.
How close to the river are you?
It's on the basis that a burst dam will kill thousands of people. Controlled releases, which cause flooding but avoid megadeaths, are quite logical for anybody. Anyway, so far about 90% these releases have been nothing more than rumours, all planned water releases are published on the Hydrological boards website. Website here http://www.hydro-1.com/index.php?id=0 and current water levels are here http://hydro-1.com/index.php?id=61&rivercode=0602
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Hello misskit,
the river...? I think I am pretty far from it (Mae Nam Ping), but there is a stream near by.
To give you an orientation, I live near Rimping Supermarket, very close to the Chinese Temple.
We have been flooded already at the beginning of August (about half meter water stayed in the Moo Ban for 4 days), that is why I have sand bags already.
Thank you.
Hello Steve, (because as you said I am not able yet to reply your message; I do it here).
Thank you very much for your prompt and helpful sugestions.
Even if I am new to this board, I am living in Chiang Mai (San Sai) since 2002, so I was here during the 2005 flood. That time we got not problems at all.
Nowdays I am wondering: A) because of TV (allarmistic) news B) because we got flooded at the beginning of August, as you said about half meter water, stayed in the Moo Ban for 4 days and C) because I am monitoring what the neighbours are doing, but it is cumfusing because some one put the sand bags on already but some one don't. That is why I was looking for wise advise...
Thank you.
^That was local flooding in your area in August, not from the river flooding. Some people I know in the area don't seem to be too worried about being flooded from the river this time.
I get nervous myself when so much rain and water is around.
[quote=misskit;1890558]^That was local flooding in your area in August, not from the river flooding. Some people I know in the area don't seem to be too worried about being flooded from the river this time.
I get nervous myself when so much rain and water is around.[/quot
Hello misskit,
thank you so much, this really is a relieving piece of news.
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River Spill Floods Chiang Mai City
UPDATE : 29 September 2011
The flood situation in Chiang Mai remains critical as the water from the Ping River has overflown into many economic areas of Muang District.
Despite the falling water level of the Ping River flowing through the municipal area of Chiang Mai, it is still more than a meter higher than the critical mark of 3.7 meters.
As a result, water from the river has overflown and flooded both sides of the river banks.
The water has also flown into the inner economic areas of Muang District, flooding the Night Bazaar, Chang Klan Road and Ton Lamyai and Warorot markets.
The water at the Lamphun-Chiang Mai Highway has been measured at more than a meter high.
The Chiang Mai Tourism Association has estimated approximately 100 million baht in financial damage from the flood, especially in economic areas where many businesses which have set up their window displays for the upcoming high season were caught off guard.
Hotels along the Night Bazaar, which have a total of about 30,000 rooms or about ten percent of the total rooms in the province, have also been affected.
However, most hotel operators believe that the floods will only bring some short-term effects because other tourist attractions have not been damaged.
The provincial administration has set up a flood center at the Haiya Cemetery to distribute aid, such as drinking water and sandbags.
The Hydrology and Water Management Center for the Upper Northern Region has issued a warning to those living along the Kuang River in Chiang Mai and Lamphun to prepare for a possible overflow as the the reservoir upstream has nearly reached its full capacity.
The water level of the Ping River has been falling gradually and is expected to drop even faster this afternoon.
However, residents are strongly urged to keep a close eye on the situation as a large volume of water from Chiang Dao District will flow into the river and reach the city area by noon tomorrow.
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PM: full efforts for Chiang Mai residents affected by floods : National News Bureau of Thailand
PM: full efforts for Chiang Mai residents affected by floods
CHIANG MAI, 29 September 2011 (NNT)-Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra is urging every sector to help Chiang Mai residents cope with rising flood levels. Knock-down houses are expected to be built to provide temporary shelters and survival kits will be distributed to help residents get through the ordeal.
According to Ms. Yingluck, the situations in Chiang Mai, Chaiyaphum, Khon Kaen and Maha Sarakham remain worrisome. San Sai, Mae Taeng and Fang districts in Chiang Mai have been worst affected after the overflow from the Ping River flooded numerous areas including a business zone of Night Bazaar where the flood level now reached 60 centimeters.
Chiang Mai Governor and the Minister of Natural Resources and Environment reported that the flood had increased to 4.92 meters from originally 3.7 meters except at Varoros market where barriers made of sandbags had been erected. Over 1,700 homes have been affected so far in the event of flood. Survival kits and flat bottomed boats were given to those in need.
However, the flood level is expected to recede to lower than 4 meters if it does not rain again tonight. The Prime Minister ordered related agencies to find new waterways to drain the inundation from the city of Chiang Mai.
Relevant ministers were told to spend the night in the province to monitor the situation and help flood victims whichever way they could. More rescue efforts from the army have been requested as the situation has been severe in several areas.
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Another massive runoff expected in Chiang Mai tonight : National News Bureau of Thailand
Another massive runoff expected in Chiang Mai tonight
CHIANG MAI, 29 September 2011 (NNT)-Chiang Mai Governor M.L Panadda Disakul expected another round of massive runoff tonight which could increase the level of flood to that of last night.
The Governor said after visiting affected homes and distributing food and other necessities that the situation had not improved. He added that the Hydrology and Water Management Center warned of the water runoff from the Ping River which was expected to reach the city of Chiang Mai at 03.00 hrs.
The flood level in the city could once again reach 4.90 meters like last night. Residents have been under mandatory evacuation if the situation exacerbates. 5 knockdown houses have been provided to food victims in Fang district.
M.L Panadda is reportedly going to propose to the Cabinet a budget allocation of 240 million THB to cover the damage occurred in Fang, Mae Ai and Mae Taeng districts.
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Floods to cost Chiang Mai Bt3 bn: banker
Floods to cost Chiang Mai Bt3 bn: banker
The Nation
September 30, 2011 10:12 am
Chiang Mai city was hit hard by flooding yesterday, with more than 20,000 residents struggling to cope and businesses suffering huge damages.
Praphan Sujaritpanich, a senior deputy manager at Bangkok Bank's head office, estimated that Chiang Mai operators would lose at least Bt3 billion worth of business opportunities to the floods.
The city's Night Bazaar, many shopping centres, hotels, restaurants and bank branches on key roads like Chang Klan, Charoen Muang and Charoen Prathet were flooded, said Sarawut sae Tiao, president of the Chiang Mai Tourism Association.
The Ping River broke its banks and has been flowing into the central business district since Wednesday.
Floods have affected more than 20,000 residents, said Prajon Prachsakun, chief of the Chiang Mai disasterpreventionandmitigation office. At some of the worsthit spots, the water was almost one metre deep.
The Hydrology and Water Management Centre for the Upper Northern Region said runoff water was descending on Chiang Mai.
Officials were rushing to deliver essential assistance to affected people. Food and water were handed out, while the elderly and children were evacuated.
Jatuporn Photiteng, 52, was hoping to find a vehicle to move her 77yearold father out of their flooded house.
"He's ill. He can't wade through floodwater; I'm so worried about him," she said.
Waves caused by passing buses in town shattered windows and broke the doors of many shops.
Locals who waded through floodwaters to get food complained about stepping on broken glass.
Chiang Mai is one of the 12 flooded provinces that Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra is closely monitoring. Yesterday, she ordered her Cabinet members to facilitate floodrelief operations in these 12 provinces.
Assigned to Chiang Mai were Natural Resources and Environment Minister Preecha Rengsomboonsuk and Deputy Finance Minister Boonsong Teriyaphirom.
Many other parts of Chiang Mai were also inundated. In Saraphi district, residents were found waiting for help on the roofs of their partially submerged houses, as soldiers moved in to pass out relief kits.
Apparently the fishing has improved magnificently, cant wait for all that water to reach Bangkok!
According to a Thai friend under normal circumstances High water usually arrives in Bangkok approximately seven to ten days after the floods in the North.Originally Posted by spark
That is of course under "normal"l conditions and these are certainly not "normall".
The middle of October is supposed to be the time when Bangkok experiences their highest levels of flood water from the North, this year is far from normal so lets wait and see what "if" anything happens?
Five metres of water in Chiang Mai certainly isn't the norm.
passed through nakon sawan a few days back, the south of the chaou prayha - the houses were covered up to the roofing tiles. must have been hundreds of homes out of order. 2 days later - and no rain the water had hardly subsided. water table must be ram jammed here.
moral of the story - let the ground floor be stilts only, it will flood once a year. alternatively head for higher ground.
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A couple of pics from Al Jazeera reporter Wayne Hay today, upped 30 minutes ago.
The Ping River overflowing in Chiang Mai yfrog.com/kkvy0ksj
Chiang Mai yfrog.com/nzl2hgj
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