Thread: Fuhrer furore! Thai student Nazi dress-up day causes outrage

The only reason I don't like stuff like this is that it gives the Blue Suede Shoes another excuse to bored us shitless with their fucking faux indignation.

Originally Posted by DrAndy

I am sure no political intent was intended, but where do they get the information on the uniforms and regalia?

In particular the drum majorette's baton - which Hitler frequently carried.

And the pink satin pantaloons

Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog

And the pink satin pantaloons

aren't they great ? I bet you could picture yourself in them, and I think you would look fantastic in them for a night out on Silom

^ I have some. But not pink. Its that two tone green/red silk. I had them tailor made in Soi Pradipat.

Trouble is I am too fat to fit in them.

Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog

Trouble is I am too fat to fit in them.

don't let that stop you, will make you twice as popular in the gay clubs,

alternatively, you could wear them on your head

Originally Posted by SteveCM

Not sure if your "second thoughts" also included the point that the Japanese occupation (I suspect most Thai would regard it more as a "presence" - if they know of it at all) just doesn't have the same resonance for (most of) them as it does for Westerners and Chinese/Koreans.

Up in Mae Hong Son at Khun Yuam (Imperial Japanese Army's base for the campaign against British Burma), there's a museum dedicated to the period. For 10 baht you can tour the place; aside from all the abandoned hardware and other military paraphernalia on display, there are eye-opening photographs and a video presentation that reveal just how "ordinary" the occupation/presence was - Japanese soldiers helping with the harvest and generally mixing happily with the local population. The whole impression is radically different from all the images that we're used to - whether Nanking, the Philippines or, of course, the abuse of Allied prisoners (as well as more numerous Malays and Indians) on the Death Railway and other forced labour projects.

A few links:

“Skeleton Road�
Japanese War Museum
Chiangmai Mail - Vol. IV No. 21 - Saturday May 21 - May 27, 2005 [at]&nbsp Features
Chiangmai Mail - Vol. V No. 8 - Saturday February 18 - February 24, 2006 [at]&nbsp News

Interpreting history can be tricky and reliance on primary sources is not necessarily a reliable prism.
Photographs are a case in point. The Japanese were keen to promote the notion of peaceful co - existence among Asian states and was often pedalled as a precursor to invasion. The Thai really had little choice in the matter and were occupied in areas which best suited their overall strategy. Photographs of Japanese merrily getting in the harvest for themselves and locals alike were just propaganda. For many Thai starvation and brutal treatment were the reality. Indeed, a significant proportion of Thai assisted the allies but this was quite overshadowed by the condominium govt entered into voluntarily by the Thai with the Japanese. Mountbatten wanted to annex the Southern states in reparation but this didn't suit the American policy. What a pity, eh? Wouldn't have the problems now if Mountbatten had had his way.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog

Trouble is I am too fat to fit in them.

don't let that stop you, will make you twice as popular in the gay clubs,

alternatively, you could wear them on your head

I bought a military helmet from the museum in Kanchanaburi. I wear that on my head.

Does the name Chamberlain and the word appeasement mean anything anymore?

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by aging one

Not quite willy,

The swastika has an extensive history. It
was used at least 5,000 years before Adolf Hitler designed the Nazi flag. The word swastika comes from the Sanskrit svastika, which means “good fortune” or “well-being." The motif (a hooked cross) appears to have first been used in Neolithic Eurasia, perhaps representing the movement of the sun through the sky. To this day it is a sacred symbol in Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, and Odinism. It is a common sight on temples or houses in India or Indonesia. Swastikas also have an ancient history in Europe, appearing on artifacts from pre-Christian European cultures.

it's the sign of life, and also used by "ancient aliens" worshipers like that odd cult from Canada

Hitler himself believe in a "pure" race coming from "ancient aliens" descendants and use extensively symbols from primitive asian religious culture where "alien civilization" were central. This why those symbols were used, they mean Life as intended by the "creators", that is superior life.

When you see this symbol on ancient monuments and artefacts are they not in the negative ?

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Butterfly

I could do her Nazi little ass,

Attracted to schoolchildren, are you?

Must be a Muslim.

I have an interest in WW2 history, and have often asked Thais about that period of time, with the same result usually. If they had heard anything about it, the facts were severely lacking.

The Thai education system is a joke, I have met Thais who are quite switched on who have told me that they didn't believe dinosaurs ever existed, and why was this?

It was because it was drummed into them at school!

Originally Posted by thegent

Mountbatten wanted to annex the Southern states in reparation but this didn't suit the American policy. What a pity, eh? Wouldn't have the problems now if Mountbatten had had his way.

probably be worse, judging from other British annexations and divisions

Originally Posted by SteveCM

Just because the pics are in black and white doesn't mean the thinking has to be likewise.

very cute!

Does anybody remember the furore when a prize was awarded for a hitler costume at an Israeli school?

I can't find a reference for it but am quite sure it was even discussed here on TeakDoor.

Originally Posted by meow

The Thai education system is a joke

that is a whole other thread! totally agree, my wife is uni educated and knew very little about the outside world

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Does anybody remember the furore when a prize was awarded for a hitler costume at an Israeli school?

what was the prize, a side of bacon?

^Neo this is the British Press. It doesn't actually care about the xenophobic undercurrents. They just want pix of girls in jackboots.

The Daily Mail does at least one Adolph story per day. Not long ago they found a semi-detached house that looked like the Fuhrer.

Of course, famously, the Daily Mail endorsed Hitler in the thirties. If you try reminding them of that in their feedback section, they...er...won't publish your comment though.

Seriously though, if Hitler and the Nazis have been reduced to comic fancy dress, then job done, no?

Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog

Not long ago they found a semi-detached house that looked like the Fuhrer.

How so?

Did the house have a funny moustache?

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Does anybody remember the furore when a prize was awarded for a hitler costume at an Israeli school? I can't find a reference for it but am quite sure it was even discussed here on TeakDoor.

It was an Australian school. School apologizes over Hitler costume - JPost - International

^^Ah, I see...
Bit far-fetched, must have been a quiet news day.

I'm very surprised top hear about that. I thought Thailand supported the Nazi's during WW2. Thai, Japan and Germany against the Allies.

I'm even sure that the Germans were mentioned in the WW2 museum in Kanchanaburi. Surely there must be someone who knows this stuff.

Originally Posted by superman

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Does anybody remember the furore when a prize was awarded for a hitler costume at an Israeli school? I can't find a reference for it but am quite sure it was even discussed here on TeakDoor.

It was an Australian school. School apologizes over Hitler costume - JPost - International

Furore.... from the Jerusalem Post?

This is the first I've heard of it.