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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
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    According to reliable sources, some people were paid 300 Baht to vote in yesterday's election in Samut Prakan.
    who was paying ? PT again ?
    Thats a bit too pricey for PT. More likely the Dems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    RichardBarrow: According to reliable sources, some people were paid 300 Baht to vote in yesterday's election in Samut Prakan.
    Convicted thug (1 year suspended for assaulting a police officer who tried to breathalyse him) Chonsawat Asavahame has won the election for PAO president in Samut Prakan. His father is Vatana Asavahame, former chairman of the Puea Paendin party. Vatana fled the country after receiving a 10 year sentence on corruption charges related to Klong Dan wastewater plant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    The vote in Bangkok will determine the future of Thailand, Democrat leader and caretaker Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva said on Monday
    He is drinking his own bath water. He sure can't afford to lose any but getting them all will not determine the election.

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    The Nation's longer version translating more excerpts of the Matichon interview with Thaksin:


    Yingluck not PM's choice: Thaksin


    23 May 2011

    INTERVIEW

    Yingluck not PM's choice: Thaksin

    Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra has said that his sister, Yingluck Shinawatra, would not become the next prime minister even if the Pheu Thai Party wins the election.

    In an exclusive interview with Matichon, Thaksin said he feared that Yingluck would be attacked and destroyed by the Democrat if she became the government leader.

    Thaksin said he was considering several PM choices, including Mingkwan Saengsuwan, Pracha Promnok and Yongyuth Wichaidit as well as a few other outsiders.

    Following are excerpts from his interview given to Matichon:

    Yingluck is Pheu Thai's No-1 party-list candidate. So, you have decided to make her the next prime minister?

    I am thinking about it. The prime minister does not need to be No-1 party-list candidate. I am thinking about it back and forth. First of all, Thai politicians are bent on destroying rivals. Anyone who becomes the government leader will be destroyed. Both true and untrue stories will be cited to try to destroy the government leader. So, I feel sorry for my sister and she is a woman. She is good at administration and she used to run AIS and run a firm with Bt200 billion worth of assets. But running a firm is different from running a government.

    I believe when she becomes the prime minister, she will definitely be destroyed by the Democrat. So, I am worried whether she will be able to tolerate it. … I am confident she can be a very capable prime minister because she has more administration experience more than Abhisit [Vejjajiva, the Democrat leader].

    … I am now reviewing as to whether she should become Thailand's first woman prime minister or not.

    If not Yingluck, whom will you select as the next prime minister?

    There are several choices in the party. I am pondering the choices of Mingkwan [Saengsuwan], Prach [Promnok], Yongyuth [Wichaidit] and some outsiders. I have approached a few outsiders for the task.

    Do you think this election will really change Thailand?

    There are a few issues that should be pondered. First of all, I believe Thailand will change a lot if the one, who interferes in the system, stops the interference and lets the system to proceed by itself. Now, we have the rules and real reconciliation should be allowed to take place. Thailand is like other countries in the world that we are having fast-track progress. We are ready to jump ahead with the world, but we are pulled back internal problems and mistrust. So, our country has stopped. If the election is allowed to unfold in line with the system to be a free and fair election, our country will change for the better.

    Will there be a real change or just temporary solution for the impasse?

    It will depend on the attitude of the one who interferes the system. Will he keep on interfering in the system or will he realise that the country has suffered enough damages from the interference and stop it and allow the system to go on its own course? We should stop mistrusting each other and let the normality return. Actually, damages have occured because of mistrust. When we do not trust each other, the system's mechanisms have been forced to become distorted.

    Why are you still keep on fighting in politics although several sides say the problem will be over if you step aside and live peacefully?

    You need to be in my place to understand it. I devoted myself to work hard for the country with sacrifice and devotion. I respect the monarchy and I love the country and the people. They should have considered my good points in comparison with weak points but they have never considered my good points. They attacked me only on the bad side, which is not true. So, no one could accept that. I cannot accept it. It's not the matter of winning or losing but it is the matter of being right or wrong. It's not a big deal to lose and we can get over it. But I have to disprove the unrighteousness and to defend myself against persecution and untrue allegations.

    But the verdict stated clearly what wrongs you have done?

    By the justice principle, they should have considered the intention. They should have considered whether I intended to do it or not and should have considered my past good deeds. They should have considered whether I did it as a mistake or an intention to do so. They should have considered whether I had malicious intention or not. But to find fault with me, they said only that I am bad and they always came up with reasons to prove that I am bad. If it goes on like this, the country will be divided and lack unity.

    So, if you can return home after the election, the first thing you will do is to create reconciliation?

    Yes. This is very important. I will drop by to meet those who are angry at me and hate me. I'll ask they why they hate me. We are Thais who speak the same language so why won't we talk to each other?

    Will you visit the Privy Council president as well?

    If he allows me to visit him, I'll talk to him. It's simple like that. I am a Thai and I have respect for senior people who have qualifications and age. With his qualification and age, I can respect him.

    Someone said this election is your last battle. If you do not win, you may not have a chance to return home again?

    A person like me will keep on perusing for justice until the justice is done … I would like to say it here that the Democrat should not cry foul again if it loses the election. If it loses, it must hold itself to blame because it has been given a chance to run the country. Its government was set up in a military camp but it still loses so it should not cry foul.

    But now it is believed that even the Pheu Thai wins, it will not be allowed to set up a government.

    I used to talk to taxi drivers and motorcyclists. They asked me whether I think Thailand has democracy. I told them that if democracy is like a man wearing necktie and suit, Thailand is also wearing suit but it is putting on sandals, not proper shoes. If foreigners look at Thailand from the bird-eye view, they will think that we have democracy but when they look at our feet, they know that it is not so. They kept on asking me what I would say if the Pheu Thai wins 250 MPs but cannot form a government. I replied that it would be a democracy without even trousers. The country will wear jacket and necktie but there will be no trousers. It will be like that we stand naked in front of foreigners. It'll be fine if we want to stand naked in front of the world.

    You seem confident that the Pheu Thai will sweep most House seats. In that case, will the Pheu Thai become the single-party government?

    I regarded that we made a mistake after the 2005 election. We won up to 377 MPs but we had no coalition partners. A vase full with beautiful flowers will be less beautiful without ferns.

    So, the Pheu Thai won't form a single-party government?

    No. We will work with coalition partners. If we run the country as a single-party government, some groups will be jealous. I believe we can work with two or three parties.

    Will you return to Thailand right away after the election or wait for awhile to assess the situation first?

    It will take me some time. There must be a proper process first. I must say that I am now used to living abroad. I studied abroad. I used to carry trays in my work during study. Now, I live much more comfortably than when I was studying. I could stand it when I was studying, so I should be able to stand it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveCM
    I am thinking about it. The prime minister does not need to be No-1 party-list candidate. I am thinking about it back and forth.
    and people this is democracy at work according to Thaksin and friends

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    Just in passing..... "wherefore" actually means "why" - not "where".

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveCM
    Why are you still keep on fighting in politics although several sides say the problem will be over if you step aside and live peacefully?

    You need to be in my place to understand it. I devoted myself to work hard for the country with sacrifice and devotion.
    Translation: I want my fucking money back !!!

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    Bangkok Post : Suthep accused of smearing Yingluck

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    The Pheu Thai Party will on Wednesday file a complaint with the Election Commission against Democrat Party secretary-general Suthep Thaugsuban, accusing him of smearing the reputation of Yingluck Shinawatra in violation of the election law, party spokesman Prompong Nopparit said.

    Mr Prompong said Ms Yingluck, Pheu Thai's candidate for the prime ministership, had signed the request that he complain to the EC after a meeting of the party's legal team.

    He said Mr Suthep said in an interview on Monday morning that Ms Yingluck was following in the footsteps of her brother and former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, whose main interest in entering politics was for business gain.

    Mr Suthep said Ms Yingluck had not said clearly how she would help the country and the people, but made it clear that she would clear Thaksin of all wrongdoing.

    What Mr Suthep had smeared Ms Yingluck and Thaksin, Mr Prompong said.

    "Mr Suthep's remarks can be taken as false accusations intended to ruin Pheu Thai's and Ms Yingluck's popularity in the coming election. The Democrat Party must be held responsible for what Mr Suthep has saidf" he added.

    Earlier today, Natthawut Saikua, a Pheu Thai party list candidate, said the party had assigned Mr Prompong to file a complaint against Mr Suthep on Wednesdy for accusing him and two other red-shirt party list candidates of being terrorists.

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    From Twitter today:

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    Govt Lottery Office to impose strict security measures in printing of ballots for election; 12-member panel to monitor vehicle departures

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    ..... and, hopefully, somebody reliable will be monitoring what happens to the blank ballots after that? Never mind just extra ballots being "stuffed", it's not unknown for selected polling venues to receive too few ballots.....

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    Bangkok Post : Politically biased officials warned

    The Public Sector Anti-Corruption Commission (PACC) will scrutinise state officials who do not remain politically impartial during the run-up to the general election.

    The Anti-Money Laundering Office (Amlo) and the Election Commission (EC) will also exmine any suspicious financial transactions.

    PACC secretary-general Ampol Wongsiri said the PACC will work with civic group networks and provincial justice networks around the country in monitoring state officers’ conduct.

    If they receive a complaint from people in any area that state officials in any constituency were not acting impartially, or that their conduct suggested they were being partial, a special team would examine their conduct.

    For this reason, during the election campaign, the PACC advises all state officials to remain politically impartial. They should not do anything beyond what the law allows them to do, said Mr Ampol.

    However, the PACC has no authority to take action against vote buying, he said. That is the responsibility of the police.

    The PACC will look into any allegations that state officers have done anything to benefit from or to undermine any political party. He asked everyone to help ensure transparency during the general election.

    Amlo secretary-general Pol Col Seehanat Prayoonrat said his deputy, Annop Likhitjittha, would work closely with the EC in monitoring the interesting fact that a lot of people have lately opened new bank accounts at several commercial banks.

    If the EC suspected any account could be related to poll fraud, the EC could ask Amlo to trace the financial transactions of that bank account, Pol Col Seehanat said.

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    The PACC will look into any allegations that state officers have done anything to benefit from or to undermine any political party. He asked everyone to help ensure transparency during the general election.
    Phew - that's a relief. Everything fair and above board then.....

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    From the blog world.....


    Suan Dusit Poll shows Puea Thai in the lead | Asian Correspondent


    By Bangkok Pundit
    May 23, 2011


    UPDATE: The chart in Q4 appeared in “preview” when wrote the post, but for some reason was not appearing in the “post”. It seems to be ok now…


    On Sunday, Suan Dusit released a poll that surveyed 3,584 voters nationwide. The survey was conducted between May 19-22, 2011. An html version of the survey is here and PDF is here. This poll was conducted after Yingluck was chosen as No. 1 and after we knew who was on the party list of each party.

    Q1. Which party will you vote for the party vote (ประชาชนจะ​เลือก ส.ส.ระบบบัญชีรายชื่อ​หรือปาร์ตี้ลิสต์ พรรค​ใด?)



    NOTE: Rak Prathet Thai is Chuwit’s new party

    However, as the “Vote No” will not be counted when deciding how to divide up seats. Hence, if you remove the “Vote No” category, you get Puea Thai 42.40%, Democrats 37.93%, Bhum Jai Thai 3.99%, Chat Thai Pattana 3.29%, Rak Prathet Thai 1.64%, and Others 4.07%. This would lead to a distribution, out of the 125 party list seats, of Puea Thai winning 53, Democrats 47, Bhum Jai Thai 5, Chat Thai Pattana 4, Rak Prathet Thai 2, and Others with 5. This leaves 9 seats unaccounted for/up for grabs with the undecided.

    NOTE: Has anyone seen any details post-amendment of the Constitution and the Organic Acts of the election threshold for the party vote? BP has seen mention of 250,000 votes, but this could be simply a calculation as opposed to an actual threshold. What BP is asking, is there a number or percentage threshold?

    Alternatively, if you remove the “Vote No” and the “Undecided” and you get the below chart:



    BP
    : In this scenario, out of the 125 party list seats, Puea Thai wins 57, Democrats 50, Bhum Jai Thai 5, Chat Thai Pattana 4, Rak Prathet Thai 2, and Others with 5. This leaves 2 seats unaccounted for/up for grabs depending on the threshold requirement/calculation of how to allocate party list seats.

    1.1 Again, this poll only refers to the party vote which only accounts for 125 out of the 500 seats. People can vote for the candidate of one party for their constituency vote and then vote for another party for their party vote. For example, for the 2007 General Election the Democrats and PPP (the precursor to Puea Thai) received around 40% each for their party vote, but PPP received 37% of the constituency vote whereas the Democrats received 30%.

    1.2. Puea Thai seems to be much better in the North than some recent polls suggest. Does having Yingluck going there and campaigning and speaking the Northern dialect help? Will this translate the same for the constituency vote? BP raises this as the Democrats have stated they will pick up seats in the lower-north. Then again from the same article the Democrats were expecting to lose seats in the Central Region. It doesn’t state which seats, but BP imagines in Chonburi Province where the Sonthaya Khunpluem faction has left Bhum Jai Thai and formed Palangchon. The Democrats did very well in Chonburi in 2007 and this seemed to signify the end of the Khunpluem faction, but since then the Khunpleum faction have won local races. It is hard to know locally how the constituency vote for Palangchon will end, but they are not making any dent for the party vote. Can the Democrats do well in Chonburi again?

    1.3 Bhum Jai Thai have stated they will win 1 seat in Bangkok, 1 in the Deep South, and another 12 outside of the Northeast for the constituency vote. They are going to need a dramatic increase in their constituency vote in the Central Region to be able achieve this. Chuwit’s party, which is just Chuwit and for which we has only recently launched, has 10 times the number of people who will vote for the party in the Central Region compared with Bhum Jai Thai.

    1.4 The sample applies for the other third parties outside of Chat Thai Pattana, how strong is their support base? They are not going to be picking up many party vote seats…


    Q2: Do you know which lottery numbers the parties received? ( ประชาชนรู้​หรือ​ไม่ ? ว่า​การ​เลือก ส.ส.ระบบบัญชีรายชื่อ​หรือปาร์ตี้ลิสต์ ​เลือก​โดยดูหมาย​เลข ของพรรคนั้นๆที่จับสลาก​ได้
    )



    Note: Puea Thai got No. 1; Democrats No. 10; Bhum Jai Thai No. 16, Chat Thai Pattana 21, and Rak Prathet Thai 5. BP understands this is the order of how parties will appear on the ballot paper.

    BP: Benefit of being No. 1? Relevancy is that voters must find the party on the ballot and being No. 1 helps although the Democrats have a nice round number in 10. Bhum Jai Thai and Chat Thai Pattana less so….


    Q3: Does it matter/have an impact on how you vote whether a party in regards to the party vote has a single digit number or a two digit number? หมาย​เลขของ​ผู้สมัครส.ส.ระบบบัญชีรายชื่อ​หรือปาร์ต ี้ลิสต์ ที่​ได้อันดับต้นๆ (​เลข 1หลัก) ​และอันดับท้ายๆ (​เลข 2 หลัก) มีผลต่อ​การตัดสิน​ใจ​เลือกของประชาชน​หรือ​ไม่ ?




    BP
    : What can one say? Numbers matter? Justifying choice? The North seems particularly relevant and given that Puea Thai are doing well there.

    Note: This is not all up being superstitious as the reasons why it matters are listed are ‘easier to remember, not familiar with multiple digits, easier to vote, easier to see, if you don’t know who you will vote then will look at the numbers at the beginning (​เลขจำง่าย ​ไม่คุ้นกับ​เลขหลายตัว ​เลขต้นๆสะดวก​ใน​การ​เลือก ฯลฯ…มอง​เห็น​ได้ก่อน ถ้า​ไม่รู้จะ​เลือกพรรค​ไหนจะดู​เลขอันดับต้นๆ ฯลฯ). In case you think it is an unusual quirk, there is statistical evidence that candidates (one assumes the same applies to parties) who ranked more highly on the ballot paper receive a greater number of votes. See here and to a lesser extent here (really only the 20s-60s in Ireland, but one assumes this is related to education and so on this basis it could apply to Thailand). This is more for uncommitted voters, voters unsure, voters are making up their mind at the last minute…

    BP thinks this may also matter given how confusing some of the party names are, like Chat Thai Pattana (who are No. 21) and Chat Pattana Puea Paendin (who are No. 2). If you want to vote for Chat Thai Pattana, will you get confused with No 2?


    Q4: When you choose MPs on the party vote, what are you basing your vote on? (2. ประชาชนจะ​เลือก ส.ส.ระบบบัญชีรายชื่อ​หรือปาร์ตี้ลิสต์ ​โดยดูจากอะ​ไร ?)



    BP: On this, policy doesn’t have a major impact although BP wonders how many Puea Thai voters like Puea Thai because of the Thaksin-era policies….
    Last edited by SteveCM; 23-05-2011 at 08:30 PM. Reason: Missing Q4 chart now added to original

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    From Nirmal Ghosh's * Facebook page:


    On campaign trail with Yingluck Shinawatra

    by Nirmal Ghosh on Sunday, 22 May 2011 at 18:05

    Yingluck Shinawatra kicked off her campaign this weekend. I caught up with her at Phayao. Am still in Chiang Rai; just filed my story (interviewed her on the way here).

    Thai political divide reality check : I just got a call from a Thai friend, asking what I was doing this Sunday afternoon. When I said I'm in Chiang Rai covering Yingluck's campaign she said ''So, you support her.''

    Likewise on Twitter, after I Tweeted that I was at the Phayao rally (the first of the day) someone responded saying ''Why do you advertise this party?''

    All this would be amusing if it wasn't so starkly illustrative of the political divide which has so bitterly polarised Thailand. Many fail to distinguish between the messenger and the message, and fail to see that it is the job of a journalist to cover the news, whoever is making it. My covering something or somebody does not mean an endorsement of the subject or the point of view.

    It's been this way in Thailand since about 2008. The middle ground of objective reporting and analysis has been squeezed until it is a very, very narrow space indeed.


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    thank god it's a system based on the number of seats, not overall majority

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    Given that these are two of the senior/most active editors at The Notion discussing possible election outcomes, it's worth watching. That said, it's difficult to take it 100% seriously when you hear Tulsathit referring to the Dems losing the 2007 election - "but not by much". 165 seats versus PPP's 233 is "not by much"? Hmmmm......

    Listen closely to the bit starting at about 5':40" - it seems (IMO anyway) to give a clue as to their real thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveCM
    I replied that it would be a democracy without even trousers. The country will wear jacket and necktie but there will be no trousers. It will be like that we stand naked in front of foreigners. It'll be fine if we want to stand naked in front of the world.
    What was Tacky smoking during that interview?

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    Yingluck has cried a couple of times already. Thaksin is probably worried she'll crack up while he's ridding the country of drugs again. Maybe Charlem will get the job?

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    Pheu Thai proposes new income distribution method

    23 May 2011


    By The Nation



    Bottom-up income distribution is the ultimate goal behind Pheu Thai Party's proposed farmer credit card scheme and related policies for farmers, said its chief economic strategist Olarn Chaipravat.

    "Economists' general aim economic growth, but Pheu Thai's stragy will push growth from the bottom. We'll create opportunities, jobs and income of the grassroots people," he said in an interview to Krungthep Turakij. "If they can sell rice at Bt15,000 per tonne or earn Bt300 per day, they can afford spending. The economic growth will be fairly distributed."

    The party sets the guaranteed price of paddy white rice at least Bt15,000 per tonne, jasmine rice at Bt20,000, and sticky rice at Bt18,000. With credit cards, farmers can buy fertilisers, pesticides and fuel in advance at fair price.

    Olarn said the policies are necessary given higher fuel prices which would push up production cost in the next 10-20 years. Moreover, climate change is leading to food shortages. This will benefit Thai farmers, but the farmers now are in grave financial constraints.

    He noted that policies in the past 40 years succeeded in building up infrastructure, but farmers are left in poverty, with intermediaries like rice millers and exporters benefiting from huge profits. Though a 5kg bagged rice costs Bt200, farmers could not earn as much as Bt20,000 per tonne for their rice due to the monopoly in rice trade by fewer than 10 private companies.

    The credit card scheme will be materialised in 600-700 districts, where farmers must register to set up 50:50 joint rice banks with the Bank for Agriculture and Agricultural Cooperatives. Each rice bank will start with average capital of Bt20 million, including Bt15,000 investment from each farmer who can borrow from the Village Fund for this purpose.

    The rice bank will determine the credit amount each farmer is entitled to. The maximum is 70 per cent of potential income from their rice, based on the Bt15,000 per tonne target. With this amount, they can use to buy raw materials in advance.

    The debt can be suspended in the event of natural disasters. Supporting this plan would be the crop insurance scheme, shouldered by the government. The rice could be pledged with the rice banks if farmers expect market prices to exceed the minimum level of Bt15,000 per tonne. At the end, their debts will be deducted from the income.

    "City dwellers may ask if the rice price would then climb up? From data, we produce 30 million tonnes of paddy rice per year, or 20 million tonnes of polished rice. Thais consume 10 million tonnes and the rest is exported. We will have a mechanism in place to ensure that domestic price is not too expensive while exports are carried out in a thorough way," he said.

    The mechanism requires the Public Warehouse Organisation to sell 5kg bagged rice at Bt110, and it could gain more from the sale of rice husk and other byproducts. This in turn requires a professional leader at the organisation. Olarn personally believes that the chief should earn no less than what PTT or Thai Airways International chiefs are earning.

    On exports, Thailand needs to forge a pact with Vietnam, a major rice producer, and formulate cooperation with neighbouring countries like the Philippines and Indonesia which are buying rice from Thailand.

    He said the scheme should entail loans of no more than Bt250 billion per annum, but on January 1 every year, the loans would be deducted from farmers' accounts at the rice banks. Well-managed rice banks could turn into private enterprises and seek listing on the Market for Alternative Investment.

    "The scheme barely needs no money and it also eradicates corruption," he said, adding that from rice, other commodities like tapioca, sugar cane, oil palm, corn, pork, eggs and shrimps could be managed in the same way.

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    From Twitter today:


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    Thaksin responds on Twitter to today's Matichon interview where he said Yingluck might not become PM after all (nationmultimedia.com/2011/05/23/nat…)
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    Saksith Saksith Saiyasombut

    Thaksin: "Matichon has published the interview today which I gave on May 14 ... thus if the PM would be voted directly I'd chose Yingluck!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    #799 ^ if he did say this (which would seem insanity...) then that's a grave error...
    Agreed - a very stupid thing to do. Is there any proof Thaksin said that?

    EDIT: Just saw the most recent post above.

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    Navy chief says military will accept results of clean election

    23 May 2011

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    Navy Commander-in-Chief Adm Kamthorn Pumhiran said Monday that the military would accept the election results even if the Pheu Thai wins and becomes the next coalition leder.

    "No matter which party becomes the government in line with the system, we must become a tool of the government or else the system of the country will not function," Kamthorn said.

    "Whether the Pheu Thai or the Democrat becomes the coalition leader, the military must accept it."


    The Nation

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    Chalerm: Proposed amnesty for all sides

    23 May 2011

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    Veteran politician Chalerm Yoobamrung has insisted that the Pheu Thai Party's campaign for amnesty to people affected by the coup of September 2006 is not aimed at benefiting former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra alone.

    Chalerm said Monday that after the July 3 general elections, Pheu Thai would push for amnesty to all sides involved in the long-drawn political conflict and would help push for an amnesty law if the party becomes part of the next government.

    "We will have to look into detail what can be done and what not. But we will not resort to preferential treatment. We won't prevent any group from getting the benefit. The yellow shirts who are qualified for amnesty will get it," Chalerm said.

    "We are not doing this for people in the Pheu Thai Party only. Don't get that wrong. Whether there will be public referendum will be decided after we win the election. But our election victory is referendum by itself," he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Nation
    ".....Whether there will be public referendum will be decided after we win the election. But our election victory is referendum by itself," he said.
    A tad cocky..... both parts.

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