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    Thai Police Slave Trade

    Some idiot posted on another thread about how wonderful the Thai police were. Here's a horrifying story about what the vermin who pass themselves off as law enforcement in this increasingly vile country are really like;

    Thai Police Oppression for Burmese Untouchables By BA KAUNG Wednesday, April 6, 2011

    CHUMPHON, THAILAND—Burmese people living in a fishing village in Thailand's southern province of Chumphon have accused the local police of severe repression.
    In several interviews with The Irrawaddy, Burmese fishermen in Ban Pak Nam village said that the local police were often “laws unto themselves,” making raids into their living quarters without permission and sometimes even stealing inexpensive trophies such as cigarette lighters when they leave.
    “Their usual reason for raids is to search for illegal migrant workers, but they take whatever they want with them,” said Aung Aung, a Burmese migrant working at a food processing factory in the village.

    A fisherman in Ban Pak Nam who Burmese migrants claim was sold by the police to Thai fishing boat to work as a slave. He was wounded in the leg when he was shot at sea by the captain. (Photo : The Irrawaddy)
    A native of Arakan State in the west of Burma, Aung Aung said he does not have any sort of documentation except for a small passport photo with the signature of his factory's owner. For this he is charged 300 baht every month.When The Irrawaddy met Aung Aung at a beer shop this week, the level of oppression suffered by Burmese migrant workers became obvious. On seeing a group of policemen coming inside, Aung Aung quickly took out his mobile phone and attempted to furtively slip it into the hands of a waitress for safe keeping.
    “You can keep it,” the waitress explained. “The police make no arrests in the restaurant. We have paid them.”

    In this village, Burmese people—whether legal or illegal migrant workers—are not allowed to use mobile phones, bicycles or motorbikes, and are forbidden to wear good wristwatches or shoes. If caught using these things, they can face a range of fines.

    “If you are caught with an expensive mobile phone and want the police to return it, you have to pay 500 baht. Cheap mobiles cost 200 baht to be returned,” said a Burmese fisherman in the village who called himself Aye Maung. He insisted on keeping his real identity secret for fear of police reprisals.
    “You are fined 500 baht if you are found wearing an All Star slipper or a Citizen wristwatch,” he said, adding that the Burmese workers in the village have to pay the police 5,000 baht if they want to hold any sort of ceremony, whether it is a funeral or a wedding.
    “The police said it is for security costs. Now this has become almost an official procedure for any sort of gathering,” Aye Maung said.

    The fishermen even accused police officers of selling undocumented Burmese migrant workers to Thai boat owners at the price of 10,000 baht per person. These slaves are only released after having worked for eight or nine months at sea without pay, and an unfortunate few never come back again.
    According to the fishermen, in late 2009 five young illegal Burmese migrant workers from Kyauktaw and Minbya Townships in Arakan State were arrested in the village by the police. They were then sold to a Thai fishing boat whose name is pronounced in Burmese as “Pa Tay Kyaun.”
    Apparently one of the five was shot dead by the boat master and thrown into the sea as he was not a good worker. Afterward, the four others were so fearful of sharing the same fate that they tied their hands together one night and jumped into the sea to escape.

    “They tied themselves because they wanted to keep themselves together whether they were dead or alive. But they all died,” said Aye Maung.

    In this village where thousands of Burmese fishermen are living—most of them illegally—there are no representatives of international or Burmese NGOs except the World Vision organization. But this group's activities are focused solely on health issues within the community.

    There are an estimated 30,000 Burmese migrant workers in Chumphon province alone.
    Even though there is no organization helping them, the Burmese fishermen sometimes fight back against these injustices.
    A fisherman who does not wish to be named said that he contacted the Bangkok-based Seafarers Union of Burma to complain about the monthly 200 baht every Burmese household is unofficially taxed by the police. The organization broke the news to the Burmese exiled media and the illegal taxation was promptly abolished in the village, he said.
    A local Thai woman in the village who spoke anonymously said that the Burmese community does not keep themselves clean, alluding to how the police might justify their heavy-handed actions. But she also denied any knowledge of the crimes the police were accused of committing against the Burmese.

    Meanwhile, in an area called Ban Nang Yon of Phang Nga District in southern Thailand, the local police force issued a law earlier this year that requires all Burmese migrant workers—legal or illegal—to wear the same uniform whenever they go out on the streets.
    They have to wear an orange color waistcoat which must be bought from their Thai business owners at a cost of 200 baht. These Burmese workers said that if the police caught them without a waistcoat, they were fined—a few hundred baht for a legal migrant worker or 3,000 baht for an illegal one.
    “You are fined even if your waistcoat's button is in the wrong place or if your waistcoat is dirty,” said Ali, a Burmese worker.

    Htoo Chit, the executive director of Grassroots Human Rights Education and Development, a Burmese local NGO, said that this new measure to manage the migrant worker population constitutes a serious violation of basic human rights.

    “This is what we only do to animals,” he said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    Aung Aung quickly took out his mobile phone and attempted to furtively slip it into the hands of a waitress for safe keeping.
    He knows they are forbidden so why is he breaking the law? Off with his head

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    Wecome to Thailand, can the last tourist to leave please pay the bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    the local police force issued a law earlier this year that requires all Burmese migrant workers—legal or illegal—to wear the same uniform whenever they go out on the streets.
    Pretty sure thats much the same as in Pattaya but with farangs, albeit it seems the local police here enforce Singha Beer vests for the farangs.

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    compassion is not a virtue upheld by many thais.

    these fisherfolk are the lowest of the low to thai eyes, to be taken advantage of not pitied.

    rank and file thai police are order obeying uniformed thugs, under local not centralised control.

    those that control the fishing industry and own the franchises will be well connected with the police and the government and will refute that these incidents ever occured

    so long as there is economic gain to be had by the country, and by the powers that oversee the fishing industry, this kind of abuse is unlikely to cease.

    this is how it is in most of third world asia, and how it was in the west until about 100 years ago.

    the western companies that import thai seafood could do their bit in the same way that clothing companies made a stand against sweatshop labour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Some idiot posted on another thread about how wonderful the Thai police were. Here's a horrifying story about what the vermin who pass themselves off as law enforcement in this increasingly vile country are really like;
    Yes they're cunts Bob is this new?

    So is the entire Thai bureaucracy as you know - and so are all the lawyers who constantly rip off poor Thai guys who've committed petty crimes whilst the rich Thai (and farang) criminals never see a day in jail.

    It seems to me (correct me if I'm wrong - I may be), that you are trying to shelter the evil and super corrupt "justice" system in this country by deflecting most of the blame to the corrupt police. Let's hear your views on the fucked up justice system (e.g. no justice system here). Again, I may be wrong, but it seems to me you defend this fucked up system (a little too much at times)
    My mind is not for rent to any God or Government, There's no hope for your discontent - the changes are permanent!

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    Already being done here, Bob. https://teakdoor.com/thailand-and-asi...ouchables.html

    Though the 'discussion' has digressed somewhat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles
    Already being done here, Bob.
    Yeah, I just noticed. My thread title is sexier, though

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
    Yes they're cunts Bob is this new?
    No, it's not new. The story is, however, news. Should we ignore every atrocity just because we're no longer surprised by it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
    It seems to me (correct me if I'm wrong - I may be), that you are trying to shelter the evil and super corrupt "justice" system in this country by deflecting most of the blame to the corrupt police. Let's hear your views on the fucked up justice system (e.g. no justice system here). Again, I may be wrong, but it seems to me you defend this fucked up system (a little too much at times)
    You are wrong, so wrong that you seem to be bordering on demented. What the fuck are you talking about? You want to hear my views on the Thai justice system, read my many hundreds of posts on that very subject, including some up close and personal experiences.

    Where the fuck do I defend this system? Show me!

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    You keep bleating on about how Thailand has its own system of punishment. Yes the cops are cunts - but the courts and judges are corrupt and take bribes and only those who can afford to pay (to the judges and the court officials including lawyers) get away with their crimes - do you agree or disagree with this statement? And does this make the police any worse than the above?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
    You keep bleating on about how Thailand has its own system of punishment. Yes the cops are cunts - but the courts and judges are corrupt and take bribes and only those who can afford to pay (to the judges and the court officials including lawyers) get away with their crimes - do you agree or disagree with this statement? And does this make the police any worse than the above?
    Utter bollox. "Agree or disagree"". Are you 6 years old? Answer my question,
    Where the fuck do I defend this system? Show me!
    I can't believe I have to explain this to an adult but saying that a country has its own system of punishment is nothing more than saying that a country has its own system of punishment, agreement or disagreement is a separate thing, and, again I can't believe I have to say this to an adult, selling people into slavery is NOT part of any Thai system of punishment or justice.

    What I "bleat" on about is ignorant fools who think their own countries laws apply in Thailand, an entirely seperate issue, what I'm highlighting here is utter lawlessness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post

    I can't believe I have to say this to an adult, selling people into slavery is NOT part of any Thai system of punishment or justice.

    What I "bleat" on about is ignorant fools who think their own countries laws apply in Thailand, an entirely seperate issue, what I'm highlighting here is utter lawlessness.
    Actually, Thailand has an anti-trafficking law promolgated with royal assent a few years ago that specifically defines forced (slave-like labour) as an offence punished by several years in prison (at a minimum) alongside a fine. If it involves state officials the punsihment is supposed to be double and in some cases triple the custodial sentences. Note "custodial" sentences.

    Now - again - are the police worse than the judges and officers of the court in corruption? It's a simple subjective question Bob - you can call me whatever you want. But why not just give your view? Why isn't Moo ham in jail? He got 10+ years in prison? It's not "police" corruption that has prevented him - to this day - from sleeping a on a cement floor is it?
    Last edited by Tom Sawyer; 07-04-2011 at 11:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    Here's a horrifying story about what the vermin who pass themselves off as law enforcement in this increasingly vile country are really like;
    Don't know what your complaining about, it's not as though they are towing them out to sea to die or anything, seems to me the police are quite nice chaps compared to the Thai military

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    those who make the laws break them.
    says it all. a mafia, yes-no ?
    whole fokin country is a mafia.
    does china even give a fok ?
    or anybody else in 'asia' care 2 pins about the burmese.
    seems not. cause money is the god ? ssshhhh.
    brutal it is, Dr.BOb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
    You keep bleating on about how Thailand has its own system of punishment. Yes the cops are cunts - but the courts and judges are corrupt and take bribes and only those who can afford to pay (to the judges and the court officials including lawyers) get away with their crimes - do you agree or disagree with this statement? And does this make the police any worse than the above?
    Actually the normal process is that you bribe the police so that they don't present the case in a way which would secure a conviction, maybe some evidence is 'misplaced', the defendant is then found not guilty, or maybe found guilty of a lesser crime. That's the usual way that corruption in high profile or very serious cases would be handled. Of course judges can be bribed and corrupted too, though nothing like the way some foreigners here seem to think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    They have to wear an orange color waistcoat which must be bought from their Thai business owners at a cost of 200 baht.
    Weren't all Thais also forced to buy a yellow t-shirt at the same price a few years ago ?

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    ^ that's a steal!

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    Seeing the title of this thread reminded me of a recent CNN report (one of their Going Beyond Borders things).

    The reporter was standing outside Scotland Yard announcing that "British police at Scotland Yard have seen an increase in human trafficking here on the streets of London..."

    Well, if it is really taking place right there, outside Scotland Yard, you'd expect them to do something about it.....

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    ^metonymy

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    I don't doubt Scotland Yard has appropriate human traffic police complete with boldly painted cars, flashing lights and sirens.

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    The everlasting presence of injustice can be felt at all times in Thailand. Find someone who hasn't be worked over in one way or another and I'll give you a million bucks. Most people just don't realize they have already been defiled.

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    Serves no purpose to paint everything with black brush and much more productive to recognize that there are good and bad people in every profession. Thai police are no exception.

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    ^The institution itself is corrupt, that's the point.

    With regards Noodles' mention of losing evidence, evidence of innocence can also be lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Begbie
    With regards Noodles' mention of losing evidence, evidence of innocence can also be lost.
    Most definitely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Begbie
    The institution itself is corrupt, that's the point.
    exactly.

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