That's appalling. Why should the Mother of a victim cough up that amount? Will they try to bully all of the victims?
That's appalling. Why should the Mother of a victim cough up that amount? Will they try to bully all of the victims?
I agree, I was in a private taxi traveling to BKK not so long ago, it was dark and I could see in the distance that there was an accident ahead, the driver made no attempt to slow dawn until I screemed at her to stop, as we approached the accident she had to take avasive action to prevent being another victim. Total madness.
At the counselling session the psychiatrists are probably saying to the families: You've just got to let go, move on, there's nothing you can do, she/he's dead. Pushing this further isn't going to help you or your loved one. It's time to move on. And for Orachorn "Praewa" Thephasadin na Ayudhya they are saying: There's nothing you could have, it's not your fault, it could have happened to anyone, don't worry things will pass, you're not a bad person. Wait! Orachorn! Are you listening to me. Put away that mobile. Stop texting. Wake up!The families of two passengers killed in a horrific tollway accident in December 2010 met with psychiatrists and counsellors yesterday as ordered by the Central Juvenile and Family Court.
My memory must be going because I was under the impression that the only honda sedan that was involved in this accident; was the one owned by the grandmother of the air headed moron that used it to rear end the van and kill everyone.Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
I must however be mistaken because it would be impossible for anyone to be such a moronic cold hearted bastared as to chase the mother of one of the victims of your own murderous spawn for the money to repair the weapon you lent her to kill these people. I mean anyone behaving like this much be the lowest form of animal shit in the country..... down there with yahoojack.
However if this intimidation is true, we can only hope that the judge sees this as a clear demonstration of the families lack of catrition and sentence you young lady to some deterrence sentencing, which this case so desperately needs.
It must be another Honda that received collatoral damage in the crash??
Also - is it just a reporting snafu that the news story says the victims' families met with counsellors and psychiatrists as ORDERED by the court? The court can't order the plaintiffs to undergo counselling can it? Then again TIT.
My mind is not for rent to any God or Government, There's no hope for your discontent - the changes are permanent!
^i could be. but all the early reporting only discussed a car and a van. and that car was a honda sedan..... and lets be honest thai hiso's are famous for not having any idea what sham is.
I'm not that surprised is thai courts can do this. In most countries the courts have some weird powers over people. In the UK for example, as I understand it, anyone present in a magistrates court, the accused, witnesses, audience, lawyers can be "bound over to keep the piece" and gain a criminal record simply because the magistrates decided to do it. And there's not a whole lot you can do about it.
The Thai justice system is a laughing stock. The people in it deserve nothing but despise and scorn for their bowing to criminals with money. May all these biased corrupt judges burn in the fires of hell. They are the very people keeping this nation in a sesspool. F them!
It's representative of the whole fucked up system though isn't it?
Teen driver meets victims' families - The Nation
Teen driver meets victims' families
Kesinee Tangkhieo
The Nation July 31, 2012 1:00 am
The Central Juvenile and Family Court yesterday had the underage driver meet the families of the people killed or injured in the 2010 tollway accident in Bangkok. The crash, which claimed nine lives and left several others seriously injured, is believed to have happened because the youngster was using a cellphone while driving.
Yesterday was the first time that the 18yearold girl has met the victims' families. After the accident, the teenager became the subject of public outrage because many felt that she showed no remorse for her action.
"The meeting is arranged under the Central Juvenile and Family Court Act as well as the Convention on the Rights of Child," chief judge Jiraniti Hawanont said.
He reckoned that this was the first time that a defendant, accused of killing and injuring others due to a reckless act, was given a chance to negotiate with families under the new law, which went into effect last May.
"It may be best to let them decide what to do," Jiraniti said.
According to him, the damaged parties want the girl to admit her guilt and the Criminal Court to read out a verdict in the case. The trials have already concluded and the judges will deliver a verdict if the remedialaction process does not work.
"We will hold more meetings but the negotiation process should not take more than two months," the judge said, adding that this was only related to the criminal litigation.
"No matter what they agree on here, it will not affect the compensation lawsuits filed with the Civil Court," he said.
"Slavery is the daughter of darkness; an ignorant people is the blind instrument of its own destruction; ambition and intrigue take advantage of the credulity and inexperience of men who have no political, economic or civil knowledge. They mistake pure illusion for reality, license for freedom, treason for patriotism, vengeance for justice."-Simón Bolívar
In any civilized country, the girl - even though below the age of majority - would be required to serve a custodial sentence for manslaughter, likely in a juvenile facility. In Thailand, because they allow money to talk (to both victims and the courts themselves), it means the rich never serve prison time. She won't be incarcerated.
We had one 9th grade student knife another at our school. The two were friends that had fallen apart and one day in the late afternoon one of the boys knifed his friend sending him to the hospital. i think he is still there as the knife went into his liver. It was a curved life so it did more damage than a regular knife. I didn't know this event had happened until a week later when I happened to catch something in a conversation. I was told the boy who knifed the other boy, and his brother were forced to switch schools. the funny thing about this was that the violent boy who knifed the other came back to our schoo,l the school where the knifing took place, to take his midterms. I was surprised to see him sitting there in the office doing his exams. At first he went and sat with his old classmates but the teacher told him to go to the office and take them there. Had he been an adult, he would be in jail or cuffed but there he was without cuffs and no one sitting with him while he took his exams. At first I thought it was wrong but then a lot of questions came into my head about the way we treat 'violent' people. The exams are over and he has moved on to his new school. This happened at an upcountry school in a poor part of Thailand. The boy was not the son of some wealthy person. I guess because he was a basically decent student they gave him a break.It may also be possible that they didn't know how to deal with the event as it seems to be the first at our school.
Seems like Thais give stupid kids lots of breaks if they are wealthy and in school. I doubt kids on the street who refuse to go to school get treated as well.
Richard Barrow @RichardBarrow
Thai teenager sentenced to 3 years for causing death of 9 people on the tollway. Sentence reduced to 2 years & then suspended for 3 years
Teenager won't see the inside of a prison due to suspended sentence. Has to do community service for 48 hours & forbidden to drive until 25
Mother of passenger van driver happy that the court didn’t find her daughter responsible for the crash - TR @news1005fm pic.twitter.com/symliBAR
Teenage girl involved in expressway car crash got suspended 2 years imprisonment - The Nation
Teenage girl involved in expressway car crash got suspended 2 years imprisonment
August 31, 2012 12:28 pm
The Criminal Court on Friday convicted a teenage girl involved in a fatal expressway crash in which 9 nine people were killed to two years in jail.
The court suspended the penalty to three years and she is prohibited to drive until she is 25 years old.
Initially she was sentenced to three years imprisonment but the court reduced it to two years as the defendant's testifying helped the trial.
Nine people were killed on the night of Dec 27, 2010, when a Honda Civic, driven the defendant who was 16 at the time, collided with a passenger van on the Don Muang tollway.
The van then crashed into a barrier near the Bang Khen exit and some passengers were thrown from the vehicle and over the barrier onto the road several metres below.
As was said by almost every poster. She walked. One more black mark on the Thai criminal justice system.
Her Facebook hate-page has 300,000 likes, which must make it one of the most successful Thai pages ever.
I really wish BBC and the NY Times would do a major feature on the Thai judicial system to expose the reality to the world. Not just criminal but also civil so businesses can see what a risk they take setting up in a country where the only rule of law is who to pay and how much.
More detail in the Bangkok Post report....
Teen crash driver gets suspended jail | Bangkok Post: news
Teen crash driver gets suspended jail
- Published: 31/08/2012 at 02:22 PM
- Online news: Local News
An 18-year-old girl who was the driver of a sedan which collided with a passenger van on the Don Muang tollway in December 2010, causing the death of nine people, was given a suspended two-year prison sentence by the Central Juvenile and Family Court on Friday.
On the night of Dec 27, 2010, a Honda Civic driven by Orachorn "Praewa" Thephasadin Na Ayudhya, who was 16 at the time, collided with the passenger van on the elevated Don Muang tollway.
The van then crashed into a barrier near the Bang Khen exit. Passengers were thrown from the vehicle and fell several metres to the road below. Orachorn sustained minor injuries.
Victims' families have filed lawsuits seeking tens of millions of baht in compensation.
She was charged with unlicensed and reckless driving, causing death.
The court initially imposed a three-year jail sentence but reduced the term to two years because she had been helpful, reports said.
Orachorn's prison sentence was suspended for three years and she was put on probation.
The court also banned her from driving until she is 25 years old.
Before the court made the ruling, Pol Col Saran Nilawan, the father of Thammasat University first-year student Chutiporn Nilawan who died in the crash, said the defendant had never apologised for what happened, possibly because she might be afraid that it would affect the case.
"I hope the court's ruling will favour the prosecution and I don't think a 120 million baht compensation order would be too much when compared to the incalculable losses," the father said.
There was no immediate comment from him after the sentencing.
Relatives of some of the nine victims made merit before the court handed the ruling on Aug 31, 2012.
I am not surprised. Somebody paid somebody. There is no justice. What sickens me is that the people taking the cash are callous enough to ignore the public outcry. In a case without media involvement I could almost forgive them for doing business in this manner, but when there is a media spotlight it takes a breathtaking level of inhumane feelings to take the money and sort the issue in this manner. Cold, very cold. She killed nine people and no fucker in the courts gives a damn.
Unfortunately the reality is this is the courts giving a dam and giving in to public pressure. Had the victims been construction workers in the back of a pickup, in the unlikely event it got to court they wouldn't have even bothered with the suspended sentence.
Its a sad day for everyone outside the na Ayudhya clan, who must be ecstatic as the girls out of jail and they don't need to pretend any more and can tell the victims to go forth and multiply
If any country really needed a Robin Hood it must be Thailand
There's still a case against her in the civil court so she/her family might at least have to make some kind of financial compensation to the families of the dead. Thammasat said they would help pursue this (not sure of the details) so there's some hope there.
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