Come on Hazz who's dan has he posted in this thread yet. or is he your altered ego
Come on Hazz who's dan has he posted in this thread yet. or is he your altered ego
Clarity, justice remain elusive - The Nation
2010 red-shirt uprising
Clarity, justice remain elusive
Pravit Rojanaphruk
The Nation April 10, 2013 1:00 am
Debate on blame unresolved as all sides disagree on what occurred
As red shirts began marking the third anniversary of the April 10 to May 19, 2010 protest which ended in blood and the loss of more than 90 lives, mostly on the red-shirt side, there exists no consensus on whom to blame and whether reconciliation is still achievable. Those from different sides interviewed concur, however, that finding out the truth is important and paramount in achieving closure and reconciliation.
"Clarity [about what happened] is most essential," said Tul Sitthisomwong, leader of the multi-coloured-shirt group.
"What red-shirts and Thaksin Shinawatra fear most is clarity. I'm not opposed to amnesty. We must see who has been misled. But we cannot forgive the masterminds until they have been punished," he said, referring to red-shirt leaders, and to ousted and fugitive former premier Thaksin Shinawatra, whom he considers the culprit.
Tul said that since there's no agreement on what really took place and who should be held responsible, Thailand has been "lost" over the past three years.
"[Can there be] forgiveness? I say ordinary red shirts were mere pawns and political victims," said Tul, who insisted that soldiers did not indiscriminately shoot at protesters but were provoked and attacked by the mysterious so-called "men in black".
Red Sunday group leader Sombath Boon-ngam-anong, meanwhile, agreed that the debate on who is to be blamed for the deaths and violence is still far from being resolved. Sombath added, however, that he thinks the feeling of mutual hatred has subsided somewhat over the past three years. Although Sombath was detained for weeks after protesting against the crackdown in the immediate aftermath in 2010, he said he is now personally no longer easily agitated as before.
"It will take time. The incident [in 2010] was complex and I personally thought both sides were victims and offenders. The judicial process is still ongoing. I believe the passage of time will help clear up many issues and lead toward eventual acceptance of the truth."
Sombath urges all sides to strive towards unveiling the truth and to seek justice. "The search for truth must continue. But let's not stall the country [due to political division]. It's a different matter," he said, adding that issues like who committed the Central World arson are still not resolved.
Puangthong Pawakapan, co-editor of a book detailing what happened in 2010 and key member of the People's Information Centre, agrees it will take more time to unveil the truth. She said it may take another five to 10 years before people will be open-minded enough to recognise at least two sets of narratives about what happened in 2010. "By then a new round of searching for the truth may resume."
Unlike Sombath, Puangthong said emotions still run high and the level of mutual animosity may, in fact, have deepened over the three years as people like then prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva have still not been made accountable, she said.
What's more, 18 red shirts are still being detained with little or no assistance from the Pheu Thai government of Yingluck Shinawatra, leaving some red shirts bitter with the government it helped to elect.
"When I joined the red-shirt protests, I could sense their anger against the Pheu Thai government as well."
At the same time, Puangthong feels that royalists who oppose the red shirts and the government, and who currently oppose the move to amend the charter, may never be at peace because they are simply running against the tide of democratisation.
"They may end up being full of hatred for the rest of their lives."
Men in black 'sparked unrest' | Bangkok Post: news
2010 VIOLENCE
Men in black 'sparked unrest'Mysterious "men in black" did attack security forces on April 10, 2010 on Ratchadamnoen Avenue, a senate sub-committee looking into political violence has concluded.
- Published: 10 Apr 2013 at 00.00
- Newspaper section: News
Elected senator Somchai Sawaengkarn, chair of the sub-committee, said there were grounds to believe the men in black existed and played a significant role in setting off the turmoil during the red-shirt protests three years ago.
The men were armed with heavy weapons including assault rifles and grenades which were used against security forces.
Sen Somchai, who is a member of the Group of 40 Senators, said the panel also suspected that the 26 deaths reported after the April 10 incident at Kok Wua intersection on Ratchadamnoen Avenue were exaggerated and wanted the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) to investigate possible evidence tampering.
The committee's findings were released one day before the red-shirt United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship was to hold activities marking the third anniversary of the violence.
The inquiry focused on the violence that erupted on April 10 after security forces were sent in to reclaim the red-shirt protest venue, and on the death of Gen Romklao Thuwatham.
It questioned more than 100 witnesses and reviewed piles of material evidence, Sen Somchai said.
Lt Gen Nanthadet Meksawat, a member of the sub-committee, concluded that two M-67 grenades were thrown from the direction where red shirts were gathered and that the grenade blasts had killed Gen Romklao. He criticised the DSI for its lack of progress in investigating Gen Romklao's death.
He said there was clear evidence for the agency to work with but so far the DSI had not made much progress.
The panel also found the security forces did not spark the April 10 violence and that they had handled the situation in accordance with the law.
Wirat Panitpong, another sub-committee member, said the findings suggested that Wasan Phuthong, who was shot in the head, was not killed by security forces.
Wasan's death is among 18 cases in which state authorities are suspected of involvement.
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Justice for the Dead of Kok Wua | Robert Amsterdam Thailand
Justice for the Dead of Kok Wua
Terdsak Phungkinchan was only 29 when the sniper’s bullet took his life. Three years ago today, on April 10th 2010, he fell, mortally wounded, onto the hard tarmac of a Bangkok street. The force used against Terdsak – despite it being very clear to the person pulling the trigger that his victim was completely unarmed and posing no threat to anyone – was deadly and meant to be so. The only word that can be used to describe this act is murder and my law firm are still doing all we can to bring the people responsible for this to justice.
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There can also be no equivocation regarding an analysis of the force used against the Red Shirts at Kok Wua that dreadful night in April 2010 – it was designed, purely, to kill. And kill it did, with 21 Red Shirts falling in a hail of bullets fired from the guns former Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva had ordered onto Bangkok’s streets. In addition five Thai Army soldiers died, their lives ending in what can only be described as mysterious circumstances, whilst an investigation into the death of the Japanese cameraman, Hiro Muromoto, is still ongoing. All these acts left behind even more grief-stricken widows and mothers.
Without justice for all victims the tragedy of April 2010 is still being played out. Thailand is not yet at peace with itself and, since that night, the families of the dead have been left with more questions than answers.
To get a sense of the depth of feeling the April 10th Kok Wua Massacre arouses you need look no further than the remarkable Thai language book published by the Democracy Martyr Foundation whose title loosely translates as “The Dead Have a Face and Those Who Were Killed Had a Life.” This book gives voice to the victims of April 2010, a cry that must be heard if Thailand wishes to move towards true reconciliation.
Take Terdsak’s mother, Suwimon, who told the authors of this exceptional book thatDeep down, I still want to fight for my son because he was innocent – he didn’t deserve to die, he shouldn’t have been treated like that. I feel as if I couldn’t do much as we are just ordinary people… I will never forget this.It is Suwimon’s words that we should meditate on as we commemorate the fallen of April 2010 – “I still want to fight for my son.” The mothers of the fallen Red Shirts, unlike the commentators, politicians and, dare I say it, lawyers, can’t just “forget” when it comes to the destruction wrought against their offspring. We can only continue to offer the likes of Suwimon support and solidarity in her struggle for justice.
Another victim of the Kok Wua Massacre was tailor Wasan Puthong (39). His young sister, Numthip, is also quoted in “The Dead Have a Face and Those Who Were Killed Had a Life” sayingNowadays, I am still missing him as we had been working together for such a long time – whenever I turned, I saw him there because we were together all day all night…. It is hard for me to accept this.Numthip’s comment are an apt reflection on the death of a brother who was taken down in such abhorrent circumstance. The lack of definable justice will continue to make it hard for victims of Kok Wua to just “accept this”.
Today my office had the honour of speaking to Wasan’s brother-in-law, Klin, and it his words we end on here. These words must be our banner as we mark another year where loved ones were taken from us.
There is still not justice as the perpetrators have not yet been held to account. We will continue fighting for this justice.
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Where is Robbin Hood when you really need him?
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/loca...-10-2010-clash
Army chief also demands answers
- Published: 10 Apr 2013 at 17.26
- Online news: Local News
As red-shirts held activities on Wednesday to remember the protesters killed in street clashes with security forces on April 10 three years ago, the army commander could not hide his frustration at the long delay in the investigation into the deaths of his soldiers in the fight at Khok Wua.
The United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), lead by chairwoman Tida Tawornseth, organised commemorative activities on Ratchadamnoen Avenue to remind members of the day anti-government protesters clashed with soldiers and police.
Her husband, Weng Tojirakan, laid a wreath to pay respect to those killed in the exchange of gunfire, and other supporters laid roses to commemorate their fight against the government then led by prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva.
The clash at Khok Wua intersection near the Democracy Monument on April 10, 2010 resulted in the death of six soldiers and 20 protesters. Scores more were injured.
The momentum of the violence was carried on from that day to May 19, when government forces cracked down on the red-shirts at Ratchaprasong intersection and dispersed the month-long rally.
During the final violence, as the protesters dispersed, many buildings were set ablaze in Bangkok, including shopping malls, and government centres in several provinces were also set on fire.
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Red-shirt members lay roses on Ratchadamnoen Avenue to commemorate the bloody clash on April 10, 2010. (Photo by Patipat Janthong)
Key leaders of the UDD, including Nattawut Saikuar and Jatuporn Promphan, did not attend the commemoration on Wednesday afternoon and sent wreaths instead.
The gathering of UDD supporters today is to mark the the third anniversary of the April 10, 2010 event to purge "the dictators'' and restore democracy to the country, Mrs Tida said. "This is a historic day for the UDD,'' she added.
The UDD activities were to continue into the night. Two parades, one from Sanam Luang and another from Phan Fa bridge, were to meet at the Democracy monument later in the day.
Police were deployed in large numbers to ensure the demonstration remained peaceful.
Mr Weng said earlier that the UDD rally would demand the release of colleagues still in detention and call for punishment for those who broke the law.
Army chief Prayuth Chan-ocha on Wednesday sent to a firm message to the UDD and investigators working on the case, reminding then soldiers were among the victims of April 10, 2010.
He said the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) was dragging its feet in the investigation of the deaths and injuries among the soldiers.
Gen Prayuth said the army had received complaints from the wounded and relatives of those killed. They wanted to know if the DSI had made any progress in its investigation, he said.
"I think little progress has been made. Those responsible for the losses must be found, even though both sides claimed they had not done anything wrong. Soldiers are also citizens of Thailand," the army chief said.
He said that not only the UDD protesters sustained losses in the 2010 protest violence. The police, military and civilians also suffered casualties. All sides were entitled to justice, he added.
The legal office of the army will ask the DSI for a progress report on its investigation into the deaths of soldiers during the Khok Wua clash.
The dead included Col Romklao Thuwatham , who was promoted posthumously to full general.
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Mrs Nicha Hirunburana Thuwatham, the wife of Gen Romklao, left, and former army chief Gen Anupong Paojinda, right, made a religious ceremony at Wat Bowonivet Vihara for her late husband. (Photo by Nauvarat Suksamran)
Gen Romklao's widow, Nicha Hirunburana Thuwatham, and former army commander Gen Anupong Paojinda peformed religious rites at Wat Bowonivet Vihara near Khok Wua for the dead soldiers.
Mrs Nicha said she could not overcome the loss of her husband and vowed to fight for justice. Although the investigation was moving slowly, the public already knew who killed him, she added.
Mr Abhisit, the Democrat Party leader, was in line with Gen Prayuth, saying that many lessons were learned from the clash on April 10 2010 - particularly how to better control protests in the future to prevent the loss of lives.
But the public is still waiting the answer to the question who were behind the deaths and injuries, he said.
"I believe that one thing we want to know most is the truth, in addition to compensation measures which are under way,'' he said on the party's Blue Sky TV channel. "One thing which caused the situation to deteriorate was the presence the armed men we know as the 'men in black'. They were active and they caused the losses,'' he said.
He urged the government to speed up the investigation in to the deaths of members of the security forces.
DSI chief Tarit Pengdit said the investigation into the violent political incidents in 2010 is continuing. There was some progress and the department was ready to brief the army, he said.
On the death of Gen Romklao, then deputy chief-of-staff of the 2nd Infantry Division, Mr Tarit said evidence obtained by the DSI indicated that he was killed a group of unidentified armed men.
Witnesses said they saw the men appear at the rally and move toward the scene of the clash. It was believed these men were linked to the death of Gen Romklao, the DSI chief said.
Mr Tarit said the prosecutors advised the DSI to find witnesses who saw the unidentified armed men open an attack with war weapons. The DSI had not been able to do so.
With photographs available, the DSI was still unable to identify any individuals believed to be in the group. The DSI had distributed those pictures for people to provide clues to identify them, he added.
Meanwhile, Metropolitan police will renew the investigation to find who set fire to CentralWorld shopping mall on May 19, 2010 after two red shirts suspected of committing the crime were acquitted for lack of witnesses and evidence.
Metropolitan Police Bureau chief Kamronwit Thoopkrachang and his deputy Anuchai Lekbamrung on Wednesday held a meeting of investigators handling the case for about one hour to discuss the matter.
Pol Lt Gen Kamronwit said he called the meeting of the investigators on receiving a complaint from Mrs Tida, calling for the police to re-investigate the case to find the real culprits after two red-shirt suspects - Saichol Paebua, 31, and Pinij Channarong, 29 - were acquitted for lack of evidence and witnesses.
A team of investigators led by himself and Pol Maj Gen Anuchai was set up to re-investigate the case and gather evidence.
On the completion of the investigation, a report would be submitted to the DSI for consideration, he said.
The next meeting of the investigators had been set for April 17.
Infographic: the dead of April 10 | Prachatai English
Infographic: the dead of April 10
Sun, 14/04/2013 - 15:30 | by prachatai
The political violence of April 10, 2010 resulted in a total of 26 deaths: 21 civilians and five soldiers (details below). Most of them died on two main spots, Kokwua intersection on Tanao Road and Dinso Road.
The presence of "black shirted men" in the incident emphasizes the importance of having an accurate timeline of the incident, but the reports of many fact-finding organizations still show some differences. Information from the People's Information Center and testimonies from witnesses however do indicate that the deceased were killed around the early evening before the appearance of the black shirted men.
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Deaths from the military crackdown on April 10, 2010
Terdsak Fungklinchan, 28, office worker
Education: Bachelor's degree
Residence: Pathum Thani
Bullet wounds in the stomach and chest
Sawat Wa-ngam, 43, truck driver
Education: M.6
Residence: Surin
Bullet wound in the head
Thawatanachai Kladsuk, 36, taxi driver
Education: M.6
Residence: Nonthaburi
Bullet wounds at stomach and chest
Phraison Thiplom, 37, dock worker
Education: unknown
Residence: Khon Kaen
Bullet wound in the head
Somsak Kaewsan, 34, taxi driver
Education: M.3
Residence: Nong Khai
Bullet wound at stomach and chest
Ananda Sirikulwanich, 54, contractor
Education: Bachelor's degree
Residence: Bangkok
Bullet wound in the neck (died one month later)
Amphon Tatiyarat, 26, student
Education: last year of university
Residence: Bangkok
Bullet wound in the head
Buntham Thongphui, 45, electrician
Education: unknown
Residence: Chaiyaphum
Bullet wound in the head
Saming Taengphet, 49, vendor
Education: P.4
Residence: Nonthaburi
Bullet wound in the head
Jarun Chaimaen, 46, taxi driver
Education: P.4
Residence: Kalasin
Bullet wounds in the chest and stomach
Khanueng Chat-the, 50, Security guard
Education: unknown
Residence: Bangkok
Bullet wounds in the chest and stomach
Hiroyuki Muramoto, 43, Reuters cameraman
Education: diploma
Residence: Tokyo, Japan
Bullet wounds in the chest and stomach
Monchai Saejong ,54, vendor
Illiterate
Residence: Samut Prakan
Heart attack
Bunchan Maiprasoet, 55, sugar cane farmer
Education: P.4
Residence: Ratchaburi
Bullet wound in the groin
Nopphon Phaophanat, 30, university lab officer
Education: Bachelor's degree
Residence: Chonburi
Bullet wounds at chest and stomach
Tossachai Mekngamfa, 44, office worker
Education: diploma
Residence: Bangkok
Bullet wound in the head
Wasan Phuthong, 39, tailor
Education: M.6
Residence: Samut Prakan
Bullet wound in the head
Siam Wattananukun, 53, car mechanic
Education: unknown
Residence: Nakhon Sawan
Bullet wounds in the chest and stomach
Yutthana Thongcharoenphunphon, 23, student
Residence: Ratchaburi
Education: Bachelor's degree
Bullet wound in the head
Mana At-ran, 23, zoo worker
Education: unknown
Residence: Bangkok
Shot in the head
*died in the night of April 10th in Khaodin Zoo where army battalions were stationed
Kriangkrai Khamnoi, 23, taxi driver
Education: M.6
Residence: Chonburi
Shot in the chest and stomach
*died in the afternoon during clashes around Makawan bridge
Gen. Romklao Thuwatham, 43, soldier
Hit by grenade
Private Anuphong Mueng-amphan, 21, soldier
Hit by grenade
Private Anuphon Hommali, 29, soldier
Hit by grenade
Private Phuriwat Praphan, 25, soldier
Hit by grenade
Private Singha Onsong, 22, soldier
Hit by grenade
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May Revisionism | Prachatai English
May Revisionism
Tue, 16/04/2013 - 10:11 | by prachatai Cod Satrusayang
The dust has firmly settled and the dye is fully cast. It has been three years since the eventful months of April and May. The barricades, the speeches, the bloodshed and violence seems like distant memories to some, fresh and painful ones for others. But after three years the only perpetrators that are behind bars are red shirt activists and lse majest violators.
Still, the narrative that people believe seems to follow an almost linear path. Red shirts protested and shut down a major intersection of the city and were rewarded with gunfire and a crackdown. As a journalist that covered the events on the ground at that time, this was the narrative that seemed to unfold before my eyes. But as I think back on the events of April and May 2010, I have started to question if everything that i saw was in fact everything that was really going on.
My first question dates back to the first crackdown attempt at Khok Wua. The major argument from the UDD camp throughout the protest was that they were completely peaceful. Yet if this is was the case then who killed Colonel Romklao? Who were the two sides combating on the very streets that tourists now frequent? What was clear in the minds of anyone who was there that night was that the soldiers were very scared and kept falling back into defensive positions before eventually beating a heavy retreat. This was probably due to a myriad of factors the least of which was losing their command structure so fast. The emergence of the 'black shirt' guerrilla also begs the question, if the UDD were as peaceful as they claimed then who were these men at arms? Without question, their involvement prolonged the protest. Without their assistance that night, the red shirts would have been rounded up and perhaps massacred. But with their assistance they were able to survive the first crackdown attempt and readily beat a battalion of soldiers.
The second question comes from the second site at Rajprasong. How inept were the government forces that they couldn't clear a wooden barricade without violence? We are not living in 18th century France, one need not storm the barricades to kill Grantaire and Enjolras. Are dogs, water canons and riot police not an option at all or did armed soldiers have to be sent in? Furthermore there seems to be a serious lack of professionalism within the Thai government structure, the police almost colluding with the protesters at the time. If this is the case one seriously has to question the ability and highlight the ineptitude of the Abhisit government. The very same government who ordered the assassination of one of its own generals in public view in the vicinity of international press I might add.
If anyone had ventured into the protest area during the ENTIRE MONTH that they were camped there, they invariably saw the big "PEACEFUL PROTEST" sign that was hung up on the main UDD stage. If this is the case then why did they fight back against the soldiers? My one grievance here that people tend to overlook, even my fellow journalists was that the final few days of crackdown were an exercise in restraint on the part of the soldiers. Despite horrible public relations (life fire zone' anyone?) my observations were that the soldiers only fired at dangerous areas and only when engaged. If the goal had been similar to 1991, 1976 or 1973 we would have had way more than the 96 deaths over that period. Keep in mind that the 96 number encompasses all dead and not just protesters and over the entire period from April until May. It literally could have been in the hundreds had it not been for the restraint shown by the soldiers. That being said, someone should remind the Democrat party that grenades, APCs, automatic rifles etc do not belong in the streets and NEVER used against one's own citizens.
As for the events after the initial crackdown, questions must also be asked. While one does not doubt the anger and sense of betrayal felt by the majority of red shirts, one has to wonder how in a closed area of engagement such as those around Rama I Road and Central World did soldiers allow a group of people to burn down the place. There seems to be more here than meets the eye. There also needs to be questions asked of the events that transpired at Wat Pathum. Granted I was on the completely other side of Rajprasong at this point, eyewitness accounts completely went against the rules of engagement practiced by the soldiers I saw that day. Here are some of my points:
- Soldiers at Wat Pathum fired indiscriminately into the temple area with fully automatic weapons. But before that, soldiers were not on full-auto, did not fire indiscriminately and only shot at threats.
Finally and perhaps more worryingly, the biggest question that must be asked of the events that transpired is what was it for? The elections came as they were predicted to anyways. The Peu Thai party won it and all that bloodshed and carnage could have been avoided. If it was in the name of democracy, freedom of speech and other liberties then why has the PT banner dropped those causes so readily? Why have they abandoned those who have been imprisoned so readily? If it was instead an attempt by a deposed mad man to make his way back into power then perhaps the UDD should consider where they stand and how they were so willingly sacrificed in some ill-fated attempt at a return. If they do not then they run the risk of becoming a puppet for some higher power like the PAD and the Democrat party. If this were the case then all those people really did die in vain. C’est n’est pas la lutte finale.
- Soldiers at Wat Pathum were photographed from a high vantage point making their way across the walk way and BTS line. How was this set up so perfectly? Who in their right mind would climb a vantage point (which was closed to journalists) with a pretty good lens to wait for a photo opportunity? That angle pretty much gave one view and that was of Wat Pathum. Something is not right here.
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Cod Satrusayang is a writer and a blogger based in Bangkok, Thailand. His works have appeared in the Asian Sentinel, CNN, The Huffington Post and a myriad of other publications. His new book The Fall is due out in the summer of 2014.
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The 'men in black' were real. Who was behind them? We'll never know for sure. Some questions are just too dangerous to answer, says columnist Voranai. | Bangkok Post: opinion
The mysterious men in black
- Published: 11 Apr 2013 at 07.44
- Online news: Opinion
When analysing politics we should connect the dots as far as the dots (or our intellect) go, rather than stop at whichever dot satisfies our moral righteousness and ignore the rest. And we should be mindful of imaginary dots
But sometimes we stop connecting because we know the next dot could have a dangerous domino effect.
On Tuesday, a senate sub-committee concluded after an investigation that mysterious ‘’men in black’’ armed with assault weapons attacked security forces on April 10, 2010 at Khok Wua intersection. The clash left 26 people dead, six of them soldiers, with scores more injured.
The announcement came one day ahead of the gathering of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), which yesterday held activities marking the third anniversary of the tragic incident.
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UDD members held activities marking the third anniversary of the tragic incident. (Photo by Patipat Janthong)
The conclusion of the investigation, however, is like an unsolved murder mystery, leaving the audience unsatisfied and full of questions. This is not to dispute the conclusion, only to beg for more questions, connecting more dots.
Who were the men in black? Were they rangers employed by the late Colonel Khatiya ‘’Seh Daeng’’ Sawasdipol, with the blessing of Thaksin Shinawatra? Were they disguised soldiers of the Royal Thai Army, with the blessing of then prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva? Or did someone else employ them? Where are they now?
The questions are simple to ask, if albeit difficult, as well dangerous, to answer. A full and impartial investigation would require that the finger point both ways.
It would have to fully investigate the UDD and its leadership, the lieutenants working under Seh Daeng’s command, as well as the Pheu Thai Party, including Thaksin himself.
It would have to fully investigate the Royal Thai Army, operation commanders and former army chief General Anupong Paojinda, as well as the leadership of the centre for the resolution of emergency situations (CRES), Suthep Thaugsuban and Mr Abhisit.
At this point, the proverbial ‘’this will never happen’’ echoes between the ears of everyone reading this article – and that’s the point. This will never happen. In fact, this cannot happen.
If it is proven that the men in black were employed by the UDD, this could lead to the arrest of actual relevant people, possibly bring the Pheu Thai Party crumbling down and disintegrate the Shinawatra political machine.
This could, perhaps, lead to tens of thousands of red-shirts on the streets in the firm belief that it is all an evil plot by the sinister invisible hand to destroy democracy. Possible or imaginary dots?
If it is proven that the men in black were employed by the Royal Thai Army, this could lead to the arrest of actual relevant people, including top army commanders and the leadership of the CRES, may throw the army regime into disarray and bring the Democrat Party crumbling down.
This could, perhaps, lead to tanks on the streets with the firm belief that this is all an evil plot by the sinister hand in Dubai to destroy sacred Thai institutions. Possible or imaginary dots?
Playing out the two scenarios as such is to make worst case assumptions, granted. Things may or may not play out that way, or not to the full extent, but who’s willing to take the risk?
Therefore, the stakeholders on both sides would not want to connect the dots farther. The price is too high. The next few dots may lead to a dangerous domino effect. As such, the mysterious men in black could be Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones for all we know.
On the other hand, the worst case scenario of this unsatisfied cliffhanger presented by the senate sub-committee is simply this: angry articles, angry speeches, angry blogs, angry facebook updates, angry forum posts and perhaps angry petitions – mere nuisances to the power players.
As with the case of who actually burnt Central World, it seems the last dot connected is the one that says: let’s play it safe.
Thailand is no longer in a political crisis as we have a democratically elected government and peace in the streets. But still, this peace is fragile and both sides must be careful not to push too hard, or something might break.
As to who killed whom, and who burned what during April and May 2010, the only people who would face prison time are those deemed "expendable". No formal agency or committee would connect the dots too high, because the dangerous consequence is anarchy in the streets.
Neither side of the political divide, and Thailand as a whole, want to go there, again, with the possibility of things being worse than the last time.
And while both the Pheu Thai regime and the Democrat Party may spiel rhetoric about justice and a full investigation, neither is exactly doing everything in their power to push for an actual full scale investigation. They understand the consequences.
The senate sub-committee’s conclusion – much like the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) investigating Mr Abhisit and Mr Suthep, the National Anti Corruption Commission (NACC) investigating Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, and the various lese majeste cases – have their purposes.
It’s a tit-for-tat game to keep your opponent off balance, while the intention is not an actual conviction of "relevant" people, as this could invite the consequences we have discussed.
As well, the tit-for-tat game keeps supporters on both sides of politics busy and passionate, with their angry articles, angry speeches, angry blogs, angry facebook updates, angry forum posts and perhaps angry petitions.
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Red coffin is carried around at the third anniversary of the tragic incident. (Photo by Patipat Janthong)
The strategy is to let them yell and scream "democracy" or "loyalty" until their voices are hoarse and throats parched -- then hand them a glass of lemonade to refresh.
It’s in the interests of the power players to perpetuate the self-serving good versus evil mentality. The context makes for an effective political tool to stir passions among the populace. A struggle where everybody is a good guy and everybody is the bad guy at the same time, depending on whom you ask.
After all, the power players will need to call upon the populace when they require bodies in the streets or in the voting booths. So keep them at it. Keep them believing in their superior moral sanctity. For now, the outlets of angry articles, angry speeches, angry blogs, angry facebook updates, angry forum posts and perhaps angry petitions will suffice.
The strategy is to keep the passion brimming, but also keep it in check. For there’s no greater tool to inspire atrocities than the sanctity of the moral cause. Every war in history attests to that.
Meanwhile, it’s the decisions and negotiations behind the scenes by the power players that will actually move this nation, or any nation for that matter. Decisions not made on moral grounds, but on the strategic and the practical. Again, here we assume key players act rationally rather than emotionally.
Possible or imaginary dots?
If imaginary, then never mind and have a good Songkran holiday.
Writer: Voranai Vanijaka
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Yes, Andrew Spooner, whose wife translates for Robert Amsterdam at red shirt rallies......Quote:
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Meanwhile when Human Rights Watch posted this report....
Thailand: Army Chief Interfering in Investigations
Abuses by soldiers took place in full view of the Thai public and the worlds media, yet the Thai army chief is now trying to intimidate investigators and critics into silence. The government should prosecute all those responsible for crimes during the 2010 violence, including members of the military, who should not be above the law. Brad Adams, Asia director
Even Robert Amsterdam quoted them in full...
Human Rights Watch Condemns Thai Army Chiefs Interference - Robert Amsterdam
Human Rights Watch Condemns Thai Army Chiefs Interference
By Editor | Published: August 23, 2012
A statement was released by Human Rights Watch criticizing General Prayuth Chan-ocha, the head of the Royal Thai Army, for interfering in the investigation of the 2010 Bangkok massacres by filing defamation claims against Robert Amsterdam. The full text can be found below.
Odd, right? So one minute they all condemn HRW and the next they are quoting them....kind of pick and choose the bits you agree with....
And people like you fall for this every time, unquestioning and blind. Failing to make connections a child would notice.
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Brad Adams, Human Rights' Watch Asia director speaks to an audience at the House of Lords at the UK Parliament and asserts, despite no prima facie evidence, that the Red Shirts set fire to buildings in Bangkok.
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Bearing in mind that HRW is anti-Red, it doesn't come as a surprise. Adams and his other henchmen try to sound 'neutral' but they are shills for the US State Dept - one needs to simply look globally at the states they go after and the ones they go after - but soft-peddle (Saudi, Israel, Thailand (royalist), etc).
DSI clear officers, men 'just following orders' | Bangkok Post: news
DSI clears soldiers in 2010 clashes
- Published: 1 May 2013 at 18.09
- Online news: Politics
The chief of the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) said on Wednesday that military officers ordered to crack down on red shirt protesters in 2010 could not be held responsible for the deaths of civilians killed as a result.
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Armoured personnel carrier smashes through defence lines built by red-shirt protesters during their takeover of central Bangkok in 2010. (Bangkok Post file photo)
Tarit Pengdith announced the decision after a meeting with DSI officials in charge of investigating the 91 deaths during the red shirt street protests in April and May of 2010.
He said the meeting concluded the soldiers at that time were just doing their duty as assigned by their superiors. As a result, they will not be held accountable and will be protected by Section 70 of the Criminal Code, which states that those acting on orders by their commanders are immune from prosecution.
On May 14, the DSI will summon former premier Abhisit Vejjajiva and his deputy prime minister at the time, Suthep Thaugsuban, to acknowledge additional lawsuits against them.
The new charges came after the Criminal Court ruled in two cases, calling the death of 14-year-old Kunakorn "Nong Isa" Srisuwan premeditated murder, and the wounding of Samon Maithong a case of attempted murder.
“The death of Kunakorn Srisuwan was in the same incident that killed (taxi driver) Phan Kamkong and seriously injured Samon Maithong, the van driver. All of them were affected by the same military operation, (and) as a result the three cases are merged into one case," Mr Tarit said.
“So we need to summon Mr Abhisit and Mr Suhtep to hear the additional charges so that the accused can understand charges and facts" of the cases, he said.
The Criminal Court ruled last December that Kunakorn was killed by a military gunshot on Mor Leng Road in front of the OA cinema, about 20 metres off Ratchaprarop Road, on May 15, 2010.
The court said Mr Samorn was seriously wounded by military fire as he was driving a van into the army's restricted zone near a military checkpoint at Ratchaprarop Airport Rail Link station.
The court ruled last September that taxi driver Phan Kamkong had been shot and killed by troops near the Airport Rail Link as well.
The DSI chief also said his agency is preparing to arrest three suspects believed responsible for killing Gen Romklao Thuwatham during unrest near the Democracy Monument in 2010.
Investigators would soon present evidence to the public prosecutor to ask the court for arrest warrants for three unidentified men whose images were in photographs of the crime scene.
Gen Romklao, then a colonel, was killed in a grenade attack on April 10, 2010, while he and troops were trying to reclaim an area occupied by red shirts near the Democracy Monument.
^ So there you go, the people that actually shot people wont be charged.
Just the people that gave the orders....
So all we need now is proof that the soldiers were acting under orders to shoot people dead.
A document will do...........
Anyone?
No one gave the orders the soldiers were just shooting at random:mid:.
it was defo the Black shirts fault but who where they, muslim insurgents no doubt
Fact is whoever gets the blame now, the shit will hit the fan again.
It should be sorted quickly as the passing away of a certain person is going to be the turning point in Thailand
That might work elsewhere, but it doesn't hold water for the soldiers firing at unarmed protesters & medics in the Wat, a designated place of sanctuary.Quote:
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Its going to be interesting how PT sells this to the UDD. After all its hardly a secret that the DSI's leadership is loyal to those who control their immediate career prospects.
Thailand: Hold Army Accountable for 2010 Violence
Reject Proposed Amnesty, Prosecute Abuses by All Sides
May 7, 2013
Prime Minister Yingluck should be reminded that she came to power promising justice to the victims of political violence. Any attempt by the government to manipulate justice by shielding the army or others will break her promise to the victims and the Thai people.
Brad Adams, Asia director
(New York) – The Thai government should revoke a decision to shield military personnel from criminal prosecution for the 2010 political bloodshed, Human Rights Watch said today. A general amnesty proposed by the ruling party that would include those responsible for serious human rights abuses should be rejected.
On May 1, the director-general of the Justice Ministry’s Department of Special Investigation (DSI), Tarit Pengdith, announced that military personnel would not be held responsible for casualties during the government’s crackdown on street protests in 2010, despite overwhelming evidence that soldiers shot civilians.
“The Thai government’s decision not to prosecute military personnel for the 2010 violence signals that there is one law for the army and another for everyone else,” said Brad Adams, Asia director. “This amounts to a government policy of shielding – instead of prosecuting – soldiers who killed civilians on the streets and commanders who gave the orders.”
The Justice Ministry’s announcement follows a government policy stated repeatedly by Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yubamrung, who is in charge of justice and law enforcement affairs, that soldiers and their commanders would be treated as witnesses to these incidents rather than defendants, and would be fully protected from criminal prosecution because they were acting under orders from the previous government.
At least 98 people lost their lives and more than 2,000 were injured during the confrontations between the opposition United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), known as “Red Shirts,” and the government of then-Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, according to the DSI. Arson attacks in Bangkok and elsewhere in Thailand caused billions in damage.
Forensic evidence and witness accounts detailed in a May 2011 Human Rights Watch report, “Descent into Chaos: Thailand’s 2010 Red Shirt Protests and the Government Crackdown,” showed that high numbers of casualties among protesters, volunteer medics, reporters, photographers, and bystanders occurred in the areas designated as “live fire zones” by the government-appointed Center for the Resolution of the Emergency Situation (CRES). Most deaths and injuries resulted from excessive and unnecessary lethal force by the Thai army and other security forces.
The CRES, established by Abhisit and chaired by then Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban, approved the use of live ammunition to contain and disperse the protests, but failed to take sufficient measures to monitor and control those military operations in line with law enforcement standards. A document signed by Suthep on April 18, 2010, later examined by Human Rights Watch, broadly authorized the deployment of sharpshooters and snipers to “protect security forces and the public.”
However, not a single soldier or official has been held accountable for the 2010 violence. The DSI announced in September 2012 that the military was responsible for 36 deaths. So far, only nine cases have been submitted to the Criminal Court for post-mortem inquests, and the court found that five victims were shot dead by soldiers acting under operational guidelines set out by the CRES.
The DSI and police investigations and inquest rulings show that insufficient efforts have been made to identify the soldiers and commanding officers responsible for the shootings. After receiving the inquest results, the DSI decided to charge only Abhisit and Suthep for killings. Based on the theory of command responsibility, which allows the prosecution of superiors for the actions of their subordinates, each has been charged with premeditated murder.
Human Rights Watch expressed concern about the politicization of decisions about prosecutions for human rights abuses. In an interview, Tarit reportedly said that, “DSI, as a government agency, has to follow policy of the government. Now the government prioritizes ‘reconciliation,’ DSI action will therefore reflect that policy.”
“It is ludicrous for the Department of Special Investigation to say it has to follow the government’s policy on reconciliation, which clearly compromises its law enforcement duties,” said Adams.
Human Rights Watch has also documented that some elements of the UDD, including armed “Black Shirt” militants, were responsible for deadly attacks on soldiers, police, and civilians. Some UDD leaders incited violence with inflammatory speeches to demonstrators, urging their supporters to carry out riots, arson attacks, and looting.
The UDD was supported by former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, whose sister Yingluck Shinawatra is the current prime minister. However, the UDD leadership, including those now holding positions in the government and the parliament, have dismissed these findings. Some have asserted there were no armed elements within the UDD, despite incidents of “Black Shirts” and some UDD protesters committing violence with weapons being captured on video and in photos.
“Prime Minister Yingluck should be reminded that she came to power promising justice to the victims of political violence,” Adams said. “Any attempt by the government to manipulate justice by shielding the army or others will break her promise to the victims and the Thai people.”
Prime Minister Yingluck should be reminded that she came to power promising justice to the victims of political violence. Any attempt by the government to manipulate justice by shielding the army or others will break her promise to the victims and the Thai people.
Brad Adams, Asia director
Yep..........
It's strange how this government is bending over backwards to let the army off.....
But the supposedly biased HRW keeps repeating the same stuff.
Justice. Prosecute all involved.
Inquest into two deaths at Bon Kai during May 2010 unrest
Fri, 17/05/2013
On 29 April, the Criminal Court began an inquest into the deaths of Mana Saenprasoetsi and Phonsawan Nakhachai who were shot at Bon Kai on Rama IV Rd on 15 May 2010 when the Centre for the Resolution of Emergency Situation was cracking down on red-shirt protests.
Mana Saenprasoetsi, 22, was a resident of Bon Kai and a rescue volunteer of the Poh Teck Tung Foundation. He was fatally shot in the back of the head near the mouth of Soi Ngam Duplee in front of a branch of Thai Farmers Bank at about 2-3 pm while he was trying to help people who had been shot there.
One of those who had been shot and was helped by Mana was Phonsawan, 23, who came from Roi Et province in northeastern Thailand. He was shot in the stomach and died later.
Mana, left, giving first aid to one of the injured on the evening of 14 May at the entrance to Soi Ngam Du Plee on Rama IV Rd.
According to the testimony of his mother Naree, 53, Mana on that day was eating at home when he received a radio call from his colleagues telling him that people had been shot near his home and asking him to go out to provide assistance. He went out and at about 6 pm she was told by his colleagues that her son had been shot dead and his body was at Lerdsin hospital.
She later learnt from the rescue staff that her son helped bring Phonsawan, who was shot in the middle of Rama IV Rd, to the footpath, and when he left his shelter to help two injured persons, he was shot and killed on the spot, while holding a red-cross flag in his hand.
Phonsawans elder brother Nanthawan, 34, told the court that his brother was a motorcycle driver for hire, and he was not one of the red-shirt protesters.
At about 6 pm on that day, he received a phone call from Lerdsin Hospital that his brother had been seriously shot. He went to the hospital with his brothers girlfriend, and found that he had already died.
He later learnt from his brothers friends that Phonsawan had taken his girlfriend to Silom and come to see friends at Soi Ngam Du Plee before being shot. They told him that the bullet came from the direction of the Lumpini Boxing Stadium.
The next hearing will be on 8 July.
In an interview with VoiceTV not long after the incident, Atthachai Thapji, Manas fellow rescue volunteer for the Poh Teck Tung Foundation who was crawling behind Mana before he was shot, also believed that the bullet came from the direction of the boxing stadium.
In a CRES television press conference on 20 May 2010, then Deputy Chief of Staff Lt Gen Daopong Rattanasuwon, now a general and Deputy Army Chief, used the picture of Mana shot and lying on the footpath to explain the military operation on 19 May 2010.
The picture was shown on screen as Daopong explained the situation that fires had broken out at Central World, and military troops and firefighters were prevented from entering the area due to armed resistance.
During the time we were waiting outside, some of those inside started a fire. They started to burn Central World, Centara Grand Hotel. The fire stopped and started again. We tried to bring fire trucks into the area. But when the fire trucks went in, they were fired at from the inside, making it inconvenient to go in and causing losses. But we tried our utmost to bring in the fire trucks, but were met with resistance all the time.
Picture of Mana shot and lying on the footpath of Rama IV Rd on 15 May 2010.
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The same picture of Mana is shown at 0.45 minutes into the clip of the CRES press conference about the burning of Central World on 19 May 2010.
In a video clip shot on the afternoon of 15 May 2010, soldiers are seen deployed in front of the Lumpini Boxing Stadium, with two snipers stationed on an upper floor of a building.
At 0.29 minutes, a voice is heard shouting Dont shoot! Put out the fire first! It is possible that this was the same time as when Mana was trying to extinguish a fire at a telephone booth in front of the Kasikorn Bank branch, as can be seen in several photos.
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Mana (circled)
Mana and Phonsawan were among about 16 people killed at Bon Kai during 13-16 May 2010.
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DSI to finalise murder case against Abhisit, Suthep at meeting June 14 | Bangkok Post: news
DSI finalising Abhisit, Suthep case
Published: 5 Jun 2013 at 16.53
Online news: Crimes
The Department of Special Investigation will hold a meeting on June 14 to finalise the case against former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and his former deputy Suthep Thaugsuban before submitting it to the prosecution, DSI chief Tarit Pengdith said on Wednesday.
Mr Tarit, speaking at the DSI's weekly press conference, was referring to the investigation into the deaths of 91 people in the political violence in 2010.
He said Mr Abhisit had submitted his defence statement.
The DSI will hold a meeting on June 14 at 4pm to finalise the investigation report, which will then be submitted to the prosecution.
After that, a letter will be sent to Mr Abhisit and Mr Suthep, who was director of the Centre for the Resolution of the Emergency Situation (CRES) responsible for the crackdown on the red-shirt protests, advising them of the date they should report to the prosecutors. It was expected to be some time late this month, Mr Tarit said.
Mr Abhisit and Mr Suthep face charges of premedidated murder in the deaths of taxi driver Phan Khamkong and a boy named Kunakorn Srisuwan, and attempted murder for the injuries incurred by Samorn Maithong.
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Police wrap up autopsy of first victim in 2010 political violence | MCOT.net | MCOT.net
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Police wrap up autopsy of first victim in 2010 political violence
By Digital Media | 8 มิ.ย. 2556 09:13
BANGKOK, Jun 8 – An autopsy report on the first victim who was shot dead in the 2010 Bangkok’s political upheaval will be submitted to the Criminal Litigation Department for further action in court.
The victim, identified as Kriangkrai Kamnoi, 24, was a tuk-tuk taxi driver who was among nearly 100 people killed in the months-long violence in several areas of the capital.
He was shot during a demonstration in front of the Education Ministry on Rajdamnern Avenue on April 10, 2010 and was pronounced dead at nearby Vajira Hospital.
The Criminal Court would be requested to determine details and cause of Kriangkrai’s death during a crackdown by military forces against protesters of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship, known as the Red Shirts.
Police said the cases of three other victims who were killed near Bon Kai area on Rama IV Road will be wrapped up soon by the Department of Special Investigation.
One of the high-profile cases was the murder of Maj Gen Kattiya Sawasdipol, or Seh Daeng, a former specialist of the Royal Thai Army who was killed on May 13, 2010.
Investigation into the case has yet to be finalised, police said.
The Criminal Court and Bangkok South District Court have so far ruled on nine fatal cases in the 2010 political unrest including Italian journalist Fabio Polenghi.
The court announced that Polenghi, killed at Sala Daeng intersection on May 19, 2010, was shot by a high velocity bullet from the direction of army personnel which was assigned to deal with violence in the capital at the order of the government at that time. (MCOT online news)
Witnesses Recall Military Actions In May 2010 : Khaosod Online
By Khaosod Online
12 September 2013, Last upated at 18:30 GMT
Witnesses Recall Military Actions In May 2010
(12 September) A fish vendor and a rescue worker told the Criminal Court yesterday about how military personnelshot at them during clashes between the military and the Redshirts around Lumpini Park in May 2010.
The testimonies were given as part of the inquests into the deaths of 3 individuals killed at the park on 14 May 2010: Mr. Piyapong Kittiwong, Mr. Prachuab Silapan, and Mr. Somsak Silarat. The court is trying to establish whether the security forces had been responsible for the 3 deaths.
The military has repeatedly denied any responsibility to the deaths of civilians in the 2010 crackdown, arguing instead that they had been killed by the shadowy armed militants. Over 90 people lost their lives in the violence which had engulfed Bangkok for 2 months.
Mr. Thongchai Henglian, a fish vendor, told the court he was riding a motorbike to buy fish at the market, passing along Rama IV Road. He spotted a group of protesters on the road, and went to observe the gathering, parking his motorcycle at Lumpini Police Station.
Later, Mr. Thongchai said, he mingled with the protesters and journalists, while rows of soldiers armed with automatic rifles stood at some distance away.
Then, according to the witness, gunfire erupted, and he saw bullets crashing into trees and pillars along the road, so he ran toward the pavement around Lumpini Park with a journalist, who was taking shelter 5 metres away from him.
Mr. Thongchai continued that he heard the said journalist crying in pain that he was shot, so he attempted to rescue the man, but came under fire himself. He was shot twice in his hip as he had his back to the soldiers who were positioned 200-300 metres away, he said.
Soon, a group of people carried him away to safety. Doctors later extracted bullets from his body, and the wounds reportedly showed he was shot from behind.
Another witness, Mr. Preecha Nuwongsi, told the court he has been working as a medical rescue worker at Vajira Hospital for 16 years. On the day of the incident, he had received an emergency call that the soldiers were clashing with the protesters and there were injured individuals in Lumpini Park, so he and his team drove the ambulance to the scene.
Once he arrived there, Mr. Preecha said, he found a dead body in the pool near Gate 2 of the park, so he crawled toward the body (later identified as Mr. Piyapong), as there were occasional gunfires. Having reached the body, he dragged it to the ground with a rope then carried it to the ambulance.
However, Mr. Preecha testified, gunfire erupted in the direction of his unit. He said he saw "dozens" of soldiers pointing their guns at his direction, so he shouted at them to cease firing while his team waved a Red Cross flag, but, according to Mr. Preecha, the soldiers continued to fire their weapons for a while.
After his team managed to escape, they were informed by the police that a dead body had been found near Gate 3 (later identified as Mr. Prachuab). The body had gunshot wounds on the chest, Mr. Preecha said, and there were soldiers in the vicinity where Mr. Prachuab′s body was found.
The witness told the court that no weapon was found on neither Mr. Piyapong nor Mr. Prachuab.
Meanwhile, Mr. Saengpetch Ruenrom, a security guard of the park, testified that he had not seen any armed militants in the park, but he had seen a large group of soldiers armed with M-16 rifles and shotguns around the park.
The last witness, Mr. Terdsak Duangpapeng, another security guard, confirmed to the court that he had seen no armed militants among the protesters throughout the incident.
The next trial will be held on 8 October.
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Prayuth slams investigators looking into political violence
Published: 20 Sep 2013 at 00.00
Newspaper section: News
Army commander Prayuth Chan-ocha yesterday lambasted investigators looking into 91 deaths related to the 2010 political violence whom he accused of going back on their word.
Without naming anyone, Gen Prayuth said some of the investigators were part of the Centre for the Resolution of the Emergency Situation (CRES) set up to handle political violence at that time.
His remarks came after the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) said it was considering if charges should be pressed against any members of the CRES in the wake of court decisions during inquests into the 91 deaths.
Earlier, the Bangkok South Criminal Court ruled that soldiers killed six civilians in Wat Pathum Wanaram during the crackdown against red-shirt protesters.
Gen Prayuth said an earlier investigation found it was difficult to establish who had committed the violence.
The new investigation, however, pointed the finger at state authorities.
"I don't understand how they conducted the investigation," he said. "It is the same team of police investigators.
"But when there is a change in leadership, the investigation turns upside down.
"Some of them were in the CRES and back then they gave us words of support for doing our job.
"These days they are saying different things."
Gen Prayuth also urged the NACC to delay taking action and allow the allegations against the military to be finalised in court trials.
The army chief said state authorities never have a chance to defend themselves.
It will be better if the allegations can be made in court so the officers will be able to tell their side of the story, he said.
"I think there is enough evidence for a trial to take place," Gen Prayuth said.
"A ruling is needed otherwise the public will be confused."
He admitted he is worried that his men would not understand how the legal proceedings would unfold.
He said he has told his men not to be intimidated by the prospect of legal action.
2010 protester 'killed by military fire'
25/03/2014
The South Bangkok Criminal Court ruled on Tuesday that a United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) protester was killed by a gunshot fired by soldiers during the military crackdown on anti-government protesters on May 19, 2010.
The court made the ruling after prosecutors from the Office of the Criminal Litigation 4 asked it to establish Narin Srichomphu's cause of death.
Narin was shot on the pavement in front of Ban Ratchadamri condominium on Ratchadamri Road, near Sarasin intersection.
The court said Narin was hit in the head with a high-velocity bullet fired from a line of soldiers during an operation to retake an area between Sala Daeng and Ratchadamri from protesters, as ordered by the Centre for the Resolution of Emergency Situation (CRES).
He died at the Police General Hospital.
It is not know who fired the fatal shot.
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